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  • Originally posted by Radicus
    9 is not bad:woot: wonder how much the 9590u will go down in price:D
    Maybe Radicus was thinking of the nVidia/ATI cross breeding project.

    But he just got the names wrong:

    The 9590 and the 9590u Pro

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    • Nvidia NV40 specifications confirmed
      Too late for ATI to respond
      The Inquirer

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      • NV4X generation has MPEG 1,2,4 encode/decode
        Next generation video support


        NVIDIA'S NV40 is not going to be just fast in shaders and pixels, it will have some additional features that will be interesting to anybody that messes with Video.

        The video capabilities of NV40 are quite something.

        It seems that all NV4X generation of cards will feature very attractive video options.

        Nvidia wants to promote NV4X generation of chips as the ones with high quality video, complete and ready for HDTV and PVR.

        High quality video will brought motion adaptive de-interlacing, high quality scaling and filtering, good old video de-blocking and integrated TV encoder.

        As for HDTV, Nvidia claims Transport stream handling, HDTV output (720p, 1080p, 480p CGMS) and HDCP - High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection as well as HDMI High-Definition Multimedia Interface support.

        The PVR part is the most interesting as Nvidia claims that the NV4X generation will have support for no more and no less then MPEG 1/2/4 encode and decode as well as WMV9 decode acceleration.

        This means that all decoding and encoding operation previously done by software and very CPU dependant will be able to be processed on NV4X chips. We are not aware specifically how Nvidia plans to do that but it sounds promising.

        NV40's introduction is just weeks away.

        The Inquirer

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        • More details leak on NV40 Ultra and non Ultra
          Faster but more expensive, slower but cheaper
          The Inquirer

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          • NV40/NV40 Ultra are the CeBIT NDA kids
            Graphics firms against product promiscuity


            Sources close to Nvidia have confirmed that its spanking brand new NV40 marchitecture will only be shown to people who sign a comprehensive non disclosure agreement (NDA) with the graphics company.
            It's for their eyes only, and not for the folk drifting through the massive halls at the mammoth trade show this month.

            If you were hoping to catch a glimpse of the tech at the Nvidia partners' booths, then you're going to be bitterly disappointed.

            Nvidia partners are not too thrilled about this repeat of last year's show when the ladies and gentlemen of the press were shown the technology. Famously, the INQUIRER was turfed off the Nvidia booth.

            Why are the Nvidia partners not reeling in ecstasy about this? They feel they need to show off a handstome Nvidia steed at CeBIT, and everyone will have bridge PCI Express cards based on NV3X or the later marchitecture NV19, NV37, NV39 and the card without proper codename NV38 + BR2 covered up by the PCX 5950 brand name. All these cards are old NV17, NV34, NV36 and NV38 with PCI to AGP bridge solutions. Nothing more.

            NV40 Ultra and possible even NV45 will be showed under NDA in heavily guarded rooms to press loyal to Nvidia's ambitions.

            NV40 will most likely be launched after CeBIT we understand, and sometime in April sounds good to us but it could be later. Another delay for Nvidia and ATI chips wouldn't surprise us at all.

            Being called a "partner" of Nvidia is a slightly misleading term these days because some of them have flirted and even indulged in French kissing and heavy petting with with ATI. Only a few can claim to be faithful to Nvidia and not snogging ATI at the same time. Those faithless souls would very much like to show off NV40 or should we say NV4x as Nvidia has prepared NV41, NV41 and NV45, all spawns of the PCI Express devilry.

            No doubt the graphics police will be watching the "partners" carefully at CeBIT and applying virtual "chastity belts". Where new products are concerned, Nvidia and ATI are like Victorian fathers - partners should be seen and not heard.

            The Inquirer

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            • NV40 is a 16 pipelines part
              12 vs. 16 pipes at 210 millions of transistors

              After days, nay weeks of inquiring we can now confirm that NV40 is not 8x2 marchitecture part as we previously suggested. Nvidia is behaving as if the NV40 was the Crown Jewels of Her Brittanic Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Fish can fly, but it's been spreading flying red herrings.
              Nvidia is telling "selected people" that NV40 is indeed 210 millions of transistor chip with 16 pipelines as we reported a few weeks ago.

              The other side of this NV40 coin is that the real Mc Coy the real NV40 card that was taped out quite some time ago is actually going to be KIA [Killed in action]. Very knowledgeable friends told us recently in the Vienna Opera house that NV40 with 16 pipes and 210 millions of transistor is completely other chip then original NV40.

              What actually happened is that Nvidia recently learned about R420 marchitecture and this entire 12x1 story and, that they will eventually end up in second place and decided to can NV40 project and to go immediately with NV45.

              Nvidia is a very egotistic company.

              NV45 is the name for PCI Express NV40 but apparently this new chip is a rushed new project that Nvidia wanted to save for later.

              Still as a consequence our Opera loving friend suggested that there is no possible way that Nvidia might have a working version of the chip at Cebit or if they have it its early silicon for showing off. You can forget about launch party at CeBIT or anytime soon, we are given to understand. Even if the company launches it in April it will be a pure paper launch as NVDA cannot deliver it so soon.

              It's not easy to make dramatic changes in silicon and as a consequence you have to re-tape it again and then hope that all will be fine in order to be ready to produce it in six weeks minimum.

              As the case is altered, Nvidia might win performance crown again but it's absolutely certain that ATI R420XT will be the first next generation card in shops.

              Nvidia and its partners desperately need this fuel possibly with Doom 3 as a rocket to launch it into RetailSpace.

              The Inquirer

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              • First hands-on look at NV40
                CeBIT 2004 Shocking power requirementsThe primary shocker was that the board requires two large 4-pin power connectors as opposed to the single power connector on current high-end products.The Inquirer

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                • NV40 A2 revision

                  NV40 revision A2 clocked at 475MHz core and 1.2GHz memory (GDDR-3)
                  16 pipelines - 3DMark2001 single-texture fillrate of 7,010 MPixels/sec and multi-texture fillrate of 7,234 MPixels/sec
                  Pixel shader performance ranges from 2.5X to 5X over GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
                  Antialiasing in screenshots is 4X RGMS (Rotated Grid Multi-Sampling)
                  Max anisotropic filtering at 8X with tested driver, but might see 16X
                  Gameplay performance 2.5X to 3X faster than GeForce FX 5950 Ultra using high resolutions with AA and AF
                  Image quality is "far far better"

                  Halo - 1600x1200 - no AA/8X AF - 51.1fps
                  Far Cry - 1600x1200 - no AA/no AF - 53.4fps
                  UT2004 Botmatch - 1600x1200 - 4X AA/4X AF - 71.9fps, 1280x960 - 82.9fps
                  Star Wars Kotor - 1600x1200 - 4X AA/8X AF - 49.3fps

                  System Specs - Athlon 64 3200+, Gigabyte GA-K8VT800 (VIA KT880) Mainboard, 1GB PC4000 RAM, 160GB SATA HDD.

                  NV News / Beyond 3D Forums

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                  • NV40 pic?

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                    • Interesting, its looks like the same sort of setup from the Matrox Parhelia.
                      Is that 2 power connectors? Looks like it to me, I wonder what sort of powerdrain/heat output it'll have?

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                      • NVIDIA's NV40 mimics a 16x1-pipeline architecture with just eight pipelines
                        Exclusive: Vertex Shader 3.0 workaroundThe Inquirer

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                        • Going by the trace lines on the PCB, it appears that the NV40's cooler could be very similar to the current 9800 XT one.
                          Although unconfirmed, I understand that the primary task for the second molex is to power the cards fan.

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                          • is there any place that monitors the launch dates of these new cards?

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                            • JSN: Not really, The NV40 will be launched on the 13th of April at a NVIDIA sponsored LAN in San Francisco. The latest rumours suggest that the R420 will be launched two weeks after it.

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                              • Oh really? I thought R420 was gonna be released earlier than NV40....

                                oh, well... 2 weeks to go... :drool: :drool: :drool:

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