Haswell Is Coming,Who's Upgrading?

[stasio]

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Almost same as Ivy,but with more precaution because exposed (left side) transistors.
Hammer system,haha.

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[wazza300]

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EDIT: "stop!!....hammertime"


yh was gonna say those transisters aren't there on ivybridge,gonna have to be super carefull applying the liquid pro,or it could short and kill the chip

[boondocks]

Re: Haswell Is Coming,Who's Upgrading?

EDIT: "stop!!....hammertime"


yh was gonna say those transisters aren't there on ivybridge,gonna have to be super carefull applying the liquid pro,or it could short and kill the chip

Put some of the high temp sealant on them. Actually when I delid this time I'm going to reseal the IHS, so it couldn't hurt to drop a little on the exposed transistors and let it dry before applying the Liquid Pro, huh?

[MrT0ad]

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@Stasio, I am planning to delid my 3770k and I was going to use stiff foam to hold down the "naked" CPU and get good contact on the socket, but this ASUS toy is much neater, do you know if it can be purchased on it's own and where from?

[wazza300]

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@Stasio, I am planning to delid my 3770k and I was going to use stiff foam to hold down the "naked" CPU and get good contact on the socket, but this ASUS toy is much neater, do you know if it can be purchased on it's own and where from?

I want a gigabyte toy gigabyte make me a toy

Put some of the high temp sealant on them. Actually when I delid this time I'm going to reseal the IHS, so it couldn't hurt to drop a little on the exposed transistors and let it dry before applying the Liquid Pro, huh?

I suppose,aslong as they don't overheat with the added sealant ontop of them? idk

I hope your taking notes profjim!!!! I want to see a detailed how to,on my desk asap!!

[stasio]

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@Stasio, I am planning to delid my 3770k and I was going to use stiff foam to hold down the "naked" CPU and get good contact on the socket, but this ASUS toy is much neater, do you know if it can be purchased on it's own and where from?

EKWB has also one new product:



EK first to support cooling of delided Ivy Bridge CPUs | EKWaterBlocks
EK Water Blocks Announces De-Lidded Ivy Bridge CPU Cooling Solutions | techPowerUp

For Asus one,I just saw today.........

[MrT0ad]

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EKWB has one new product:



EK first to support cooling of delided Ivy Bridge CPUs | EKWaterBlocks
EK Water Blocks Announces De-Lidded Ivy Bridge CPU Cooling Solutions | techPowerUp

Thanks for that Stasio, but I am worried that if all the pressure is applied on the naked die there might not be good contact with the socket pins towards the edges if the PCB on the CPU bends slightly, hence wanting to apply pressure on the perimeter too... That gadget on the picture you linked is ideal ;)

[wazza300]

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those pins have some flex,so you should be fine regarding pin contact imo

[MrT0ad]

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those pins have some flex,so you should be fine regarding pin contact imo

I can always give it a shot I guess... is just that I had issues in the past with the memory banks when contact was less than perfect...

[stasio]

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Thanks for that Stasio, but I am worried that if all the pressure is applied on the naked die there might not be good contact with the socket pins towards the edges if the PCB on the CPU bends slightly, hence wanting to apply pressure on the perimeter too... That gadget on the picture you linked is ideal ;)

This coming days,more product like this will apear,for sure.

I can always give it a shot I guess... is just that I had issues in the past with the memory banks when contact was less than perfect...

Mostly,you will not be able to boot.

[MrT0ad]

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This coming days,more product like this will apear,for sure.

Will keep my eyes peeled :) the "hammer" delidding makes it more appealing, I was always worried about the blade after bricking a trusty i920...

[profJim]

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Will keep my eyes peeled :) the "hammer" delidding makes it more appealing, I was always worried about the blade after bricking a trusty i920...

Funny that you should mention that.
I just finished viewing a hammer de-lidding video at [How To] Delid your Ivy Bridge CPU with out a Razor Blade!.
I think that it would be safer and easier if the wooden block was hardwood and not the less expensive softwood. But....the softwood approach will absorb more of the shock.

I wonder what the success rate is with the hammer/wood technique versus using a knife or razor blade.
I already have a dead blow hammer so that is what I would use. Dead blow hammer - Wikipedia
I really don't want to FUBAR a brand new $350 cpu.

Other observations:
Some of the z87 mobos are using Marvell or ASMedia sata3 and usb 3.0 configurations.
The mobo that I buy must have at least 4 native Intel sata3 and usb 3.0 ports.
An older PCI slot for my HT Omega audio card would be nice, but I must be able to install my SLI video cards. ASRock Extreme6 z87?
Computer cases that I'm currently considering:

• HAF XB COOLER MASTER HAF XB @ Newegg.com
• SilverStone Raven with 90^o rotated motherboard SilverStone RAVEN RV02B-EW-USB3.0 @ Newegg.com
• SilverStone Fortress with 90^o rotated motherboard SilverStone Fortress Series FT02B-W-USB3.0 @ Newegg.com

[wazza300]

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I think they are all sata3 speed ports now,no sata2 ports anymore

not sure howmany are intel/marvell though

[profJim]

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I think they are all sata3 speed ports now,no sata2 ports anymore

not sure howmany are intel/marvell though

The keyword is native Intel.
I don't want to deal with UDF poop from non-Intel sata and usb controllers.
Ideally there will be 6 native Intel sata3 and 6 native Intel usb 3.0 ports.
If there are even more available ports, I don't care if the remaining ports use non-Intel controllers.

UDF = Unintentioned Design Features, aka bugs, quirks, problems, issues

[profJim]

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Here is an example of "mongrel" controller information from the GA-Z87X-UD5H rev 1.0 user manual:
(One pleasant surprise, there weren't any cautionary notes or footnotes stating that if you enable item A, item B is disabled. This is a welcome improvement compared with P55 to Ivy Bridge systems.)

-- from page 11 --

Storage Interface Chipset:

- 6 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (SATA3 0~5) supporting up to 6 SATA 6Gb/s devices
- Support for RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10

88SE9230 chip:
- 4 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors (GSATA3 6~9) supporting up to 4 SATA 6Gb/s devices
- Support for RAID 0, RAID 1, and RAID 10

USB Chipset:

- Up to 2 USB 3.0/2.0 ports (available through the internal USB header)
- Up to 4 USB 2.0/1.1 ports (available through the internal USB headers)

Chipset + 2 uPD720210 USB 3.0 Hubs:
- Up to 8 USB 3.0/2.0 ports (6 ports on the back panel, 2 ports available through the internal USB header)

-- from page 8 --


note: The motherboard layout diagram on page 7 shows that my 2nd Video card will block the only available PCI motherboard slot for my HT Omega audio card. fooey!!