Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Well, ya gotta do what you gotta do sometimes! Sorry to hear you could only find Value Mushkins. Why did you not ebay you a pair of nice ones?

So did you get those to run at rated speeds yet?

[Salty]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Can't say I was confident, but I put the 2x2 up to 1066 5 hours ago and no problems so far. Whew... Ebay, and get a paypal account, no experience there other than looking ... Impatience... Instant gratification .. or instant depression, ha! I had to drop a friend off at the Brisbane Airport, and that took me right past my fave computer shop.

Well, for an oldy, Far Cry 2 has already kept me up too late. 2:10 am already. Bed.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Ebay and Paypal are very nice to use! You should be fine if you ever decide to try it out.

Ya, it is always nice though to be able to buy on your way home instead of waiting for the mail to come

Nice to hear you are all up and running smoothly! Post back if you have any further issues.

Get ya some sleep

[Salty]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

After sorting out that, and realising that remaining glitches are Vista64 running 32 bit programs that were designed for an entirely different school of memory management... decided to overclock.

Disabled EIST and C1E power saving/stepping.

Current Settings:

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio [+0.5]
Cpu frequency 3.8 GHz 400x9.5
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [400]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
C.I.A. 2____________________[Disabled]

Performance Enhance = [Standard]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.66D]
Memory frequency 1066 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

CAS Latency Time________________ 5
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________5
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 15

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 4
Rank Write to READ Delay________ 9
Write to Precharge Delay_________ 12
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 68
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 6
Static tRead Value_______________ 7
Static tRead Phase Adjust________ AUTO
Command rate (CMD) _______ 2T

Cpu/pciex clock driving control ____800mV
Cpu clock skew control _____ NORMAL
Gmch clock skew control _____ [150ps]

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.3] = 2.1V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.2V]
Loadline calibration ____[Auto]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.300]
Cpu normal vcore 1.2500V




The difference can be seen in the before and after Far Cry 2 benchmark results below:

* Total Frames: 2750, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 53.92
* Max. Framerate: 75.15 (Frame:412, 6.51s)
* Min. Framerate: 40.62 (Frame:994, 17.27s)

* Total Frames: 2924, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 57.32
* Max. Framerate: 75.45 (Frame:438, 6.47s)
* Min. Framerate: 47.84 (Frame:2220, 38.91s)

It handles Photoshop much better now, but still slow to open "new".

Would you recommend tightening any other timings?

There's no tRC adjustment in the X48 bios, and Vista wont let SPDtool run, so cannot edit that value down, unless I put ram in an XP machine one at a time and edit SPD there, to maybe 15-17. Do you think that would yield reliable gains?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Have you tried to lower the advanced timings any?

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 4 << Maybe 3
Rank Write to READ Delay________ 9 << try 3-6
Write to Precharge Delay_________ 12 << try 4-8
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 68 << Try 52-58
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 6 << Try 2/3-5
Static tRead Value_______________ 7 << this may have to come up to lower above some, and that would be a trade off you would have to bench to measure if it was worth it or not.

tRC, you could lower that via SPDtool on another PC, but without being able to see what it is actually at now neither of us would be able to guess a better setting. One could assume it may be what is in the SPD but you never know

[Salty]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 3
Rank Write to READ Delay________ 8
Write to Precharge Delay_________ 8
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 58
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 5
Static tRead Value_______________ 6



Best results as far as I could tell, but didn't affect Far Cry 2 benchmark much compared to previous settings, just looks better in Everest. If I raise the static tRead I don't seem to be able get the gains back with reduced values elsewhere.

SiSoft Sandra scores much better than before I started.

* Total Frames: 2933, Total Time: 51.01s
* Average Framerate: 57.49
* Max. Framerate: 75.90 (Frame:437, 6.47s)
* Min. Framerate: 49.93 (Frame:917, 14.14s)

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Looks good!

No luck with lower? Such as >>>

Rank Write to READ Delay________ 4
Write to Precharge Delay_________6
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 54
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 3

If no, static Tread may need to come up again... Which may prove to be a moot point?

[Salty]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

No luck with lower, no. Results went wrong way. (Darn) Tried raising static tread, but did not then see any gains lowering others one at a time (in both senses of the phrase) Unless it was just getting tired of the endless rebooting... the 59.8ns was only immediately after adjustment, otherwise 60.1 seems to be the subsequent result for the same settings, and those settings seemed to give the best overall bandwidth too.

Is it possible that a greater drop than one at a time might clear a "dead spot" or "negative turn of the graph"? I do note that some of these are wide of the spd figures, but then they are some sort of safe average for most motherboard/hardware combos, no? Not necessarily ideal for mine.

[Salty]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem



Well, thinking it might be a hump or plateau, took your good advice literally, and got the above results.

Rank Write to READ Delay________ 4
Write to Precharge Delay_________6
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 54, 55, 56, 57, 58
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 3
Static tRead____________________6,7

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Looks like 4-6-55-3-6 works the best eh?

So these wont work then right? >>>
Rank Write to READ Delay________ 2-3
Write to Precharge Delay________4-5
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ xx
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 2

[Salty]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

If read is more important than copy or latency? (write being equal)
At 54 got black streaks/patches at throwup of logon page.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

What? HAHA

Ya, Read is important, but latency is what you really want the best of. Then try to find the best for read

[DBDD]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Hey everyone.... I also am having major dramas with my X48-DQ6.... desperately need help !!

I'm very new to all this, thought it would be a good idea to try and learn how to build a computer....am thinking twice about it now.


These are the specs ;

MB : GA-X48-DQ6
CPU : Intel Q9450 2.66ghz
RAM : Corsair Dominator 8500C5D 1066mhz 2gb X 4 sticks altogether.
Graphics : Sapphire Radeon HD4870 X 1
HDD : Samsung F1 Spinpoint 750gb X 2
PSU : Antec Quattro 1000W
O/S : Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1


When i first put it altogether, i had the problem of the system starting for 4 secs, then shutting down, and continuosly repeating.

I pulled the entire thing apart, and after a bit of research on here, i managed to get it started with 1 stick of ram.

The computer ran ok for about 3 months, then the problem started again, on / off / on / off every 4 secs. I tried the 1 stick of Ram again, but that didnt work. I totally pulled the thing apart, different ram, power supply, no graphics and still it wouldnt power up.

I sent the MB back to the supplier wher ei got it from, they sent it back to Gigabyte, 2 months later, i have received what they say is a new motherboard.

I put it all back together, 1 stick of ram, powered up, i adjusted the voltages so it would be more stable with all the ram.

It worked fine for 1 night !

Now nothing..... on / off / on / off, even with 1 stick of Ram. I've also taken the CMOS battery out for a whole 24hrs...nothing, still the same.

I have absolutely no idea what to do. I'm pretty much looking at a very expensive DoorStop at the moment.

If someone could please help me... i'm startin to get desperate now....i miss my Warcraft and Crysis !

[Albertwt]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

Hey everyone.... I also am having major dramas with my X48-DQ6.... desperately need help !!

I'm very new to all this, thought it would be a good idea to try and learn how to build a computer....am thinking twice about it now.


These are the specs ;

MB : GA-X48-DQ6
CPU : Intel Q9450 2.66ghz
RAM : Corsair Dominator 8500C5D 1066mhz 2gb X 4 sticks altogether.
Graphics : Sapphire Radeon HD4870 X 1
HDD : Samsung F1 Spinpoint 750gb X 2
PSU : Antec Quattro 1000W
O/S : Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1


When i first put it altogether, i had the problem of the system starting for 4 secs, then shutting down, and continuosly repeating.

I pulled the entire thing apart, and after a bit of research on here, i managed to get it started with 1 stick of ram.

The computer ran ok for about 3 months, then the problem started again, on / off / on / off every 4 secs. I tried the 1 stick of Ram again, but that didnt work. I totally pulled the thing apart, different ram, power supply, no graphics and still it wouldnt power up.

I sent the MB back to the supplier wher ei got it from, they sent it back to Gigabyte, 2 months later, i have received what they say is a new motherboard.

I put it all back together, 1 stick of ram, powered up, i adjusted the voltages so it would be more stable with all the ram.

It worked fine for 1 night !

Now nothing..... on / off / on / off, even with 1 stick of Ram. I've also taken the CMOS battery out for a whole 24hrs...nothing, still the same.

I have absolutely no idea what to do. I'm pretty much looking at a very expensive DoorStop at the moment.

If someone could please help me... i'm startin to get desperate now....i miss my Warcraft and Crysis !

to All, I've finally managed to exchange the faulty X48-DQ6 with the Asus Rampage Formula Extreme (same X48 chipset).

it worked fine although for some weird reason, with the same DDR2 memory my Asus refused to boot up :-|

now I'm running my PC with Corsair Value Select DDR2-667 MHz 4x 1 GB RAM.

[Salty]

Re: Gigabyte X48-DQ6 reboot/hang problem

The x48 is sensitive to ram and ram settings
Timings that work for 1 stick may not for 4 sticks - four sticks may need to be run at lower than rated speed to be stable.
Ram voltage?

my four 1 gig sticks (two pairs dual channel) that wouldn't work in my X48-DQ6 are functioning perfectly well in my son's EP45-DS3, at auto settings of 7-7-7-?, which is looser than the auto settings on my x48. (Why do they interpret SPD differently?)

Have you tried loosening ram timings?

"Well first before you do get some new ram, I would suggest with that one stick you go in and set some voltages. MCH add .2 and DDR set to .3, refresh to act delay to 70, then you should be able to use all 4. You should not have any issues with 2x1, especially if you set the proper voltage. Unless one of them is dead/dying." LSD4Me

(Mine would not post with two sticks of 1 gig, so booted with one, made changes LSD4Me suggested, and then it worked with two, but was not entirely happy. With 4 it was still flaky at 800mhz (standard fsb) Corsair ram guy suggested 667. I really didn't want to be running 1066 rated ram at 667. No more problems after changing to 2x2gig sticks - and they are that same Corsair brand?!?

If you replace the values below with the ones shown in your bios and post it here, that could help get more knowledgeable and specific advice than mine.

Ram settings:(Mine, first time I successfully booted up past bios)
Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio +0.5
Cpu frequency 3.16 GHz 333x9.5
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [333]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
C.I.A. 2____________________[Disabled]

Performance Enhance = [Standard]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [3.2] = 1066 Ram Speed
Memory frequency 1066 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

Cpu/pciex clock driving control ____800mV
Cpu clock skew control _____ AUTO
Gmch clock skew control _____ AUTO


CAS Latency Time________________ 5
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________5
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 15

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 4
Rank Write to READ Delay________ 9
Write to Precharge Delay_________ 12
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 70
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 6
Static tRead Value_______________ 8
Static tRead Phase Adjust________ AUTO
Command rate (CMD) _______ 2

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.3] = 2.1V
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [Normal]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.2V]
Loadline calibration ____[Auto]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal]
Cpu normal vcore 1.2500V