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  • ALiveNF6G-VSTA and AM3 cpu support?

    Hello i have
    this motherboard ASRock > ALiveNF6G-VSTA
    My question is will it work with these CPU ? AMD ATHLON II x4 640
    or with this one AMD ATHLON II x2 280

    I already upgraded BIOS to 2.20 version.

    Rest of my PC

    mobo : ALiveNF6G-VSTA
    GPU : ATI HD 4870
    CPU (so far): ATHLON X2 3600+
    Ram : 3gb
    OS : WIN xp
    Power Supply 630w.

    I am looking forward to your answer.

  • #2
    Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

    Check the ASRock cpu support list for your ALiveNF6G-VSTA by using the full cpu model name.
    ASRock > ALiveNF6G-VSTA - cpu support list
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    • #3
      Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

      Originally posted by profJim View Post
      Check the ASRock cpu support list for your ALiveNF6G-VSTA by using the full cpu model name.
      ASRock > ALiveNF6G-VSTA - cpu support list

      But both of those procesors are am3 procesors. But i read on the internet am2+ sockets mobo should support am3 procesors.

      In that link you send me is not even one am3. So i dont know.

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      • #4
        Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

        The link says:
        "Support for Socket AM2+ / AM2 processors: AMD Phenom™ FX / Phenom / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core / Athlon X2 Dual-Core / Athlon 64 / Sempron processor"

        It's possible that some AM2+ motherboard brands or models might support some AM3 processors, but only if the manufacturer offers an updated bios for the AM3 cpu.

        A quick web search using am2+ am3 compatibility turned up this link: AM2+ and AM3 Compatibility - CPUs - CPUs -- Tom's Hardware.
        Tom's has links to similar threads at the bottom of the thread.

        Sorry, it looks like you are out of luck.
        Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
        P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
        4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
        MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
        Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
        WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
        Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
        SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
        Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
        Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
        Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
        MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
        Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
        HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
        CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
        E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
        Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
        Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
        HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
        .

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        • #5
          Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

          Originally posted by profJim View Post
          The link says:
          "Support for Socket AM2+ / AM2 processors: AMD Phenom™ FX / Phenom / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core / Athlon X2 Dual-Core / Athlon 64 / Sempron processor"

          It's possible that some AM2+ motherboard brands or models might support some AM3 processors, but only if the manufacturer offers an updated bios for the AM3 cpu.

          A quick web search using am2+ am3 compatibility turned up this link: AM2+ and AM3 Compatibility - CPUs - CPUs -- Tom's Hardware.
          Tom's has links to similar threads at the bottom of the thread.

          Sorry, it looks like you are out of luck.
          And this procesors will it work AMD Phenom X4 9650(4x2.3Ghz,4MB cache,AM2/AM2+,95W) ?

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          • #6
            Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

            I don't think that the AMD Phenom X4 9650 will work, it's not in the cpu support list.
            There are only two AMD Agena AM2+ Phenom X4 processors in the support list:
            • HD9600WCJ4BGD
            • HD9500WCJ4BGD

            Both of these models have the B2 stepping and require the 2.10 bios.
            The 9650 has the B3 stepping.

            Trying to run an unsupported cpu is risky, it might not work at all or it might "kind of" work, but not reliably.
            The only processors that ASRock has tested and that are known to work are in the cpu support list.

            You can send a private message to ASRock TSD - Emily, include a link to your first post in this thread, and ask for her help.

            Wikipedia has a list of the Agena Phenom X4 processors and most of the models have the B3 stepping.
            List of AMD Phenom microprocessors - Wikipedia

            **edit**
            I noticed that Emily is in the forum right now.
            I sent her a PM and asked her to look at our posts and asked her to post additional information.
            Last edited by profJim; 05-06-2013, 07:01 PM.
            Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
            P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
            4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
            MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
            Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
            WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
            SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
            Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
            Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
            Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
            MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
            Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
            HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
            CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
            E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
            Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
            Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
            HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
            .

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            • #7
              Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

              Hi profJim,

              Thanks for your help and reply.
              You're a great user in this forum that help me a lot.
              Thank you very much!

              Hi okno123svk,

              Please kindly provide your e-mail address for me via PM.
              I'll send the latest BIOS that we update AMD AGESA code and some information to you.

              Thanks!

              Have a nice day
              ASRock TSD
              Emily

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              • #8
                Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

                Have you send me PM ? cus i didnt get anything.

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                • #9
                  Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

                  Originally posted by okno123svk View Post
                  Have you send me PM ? cus i didnt get anything.
                  Emily wants you to send her your email address using a PM so that she can email you a special bios and more information about which processors will work with the bios.

                  Do NOT post your email address in this thread, otherwise spam bots can easily copy your email address and spam you.
                  Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                  P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                  4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                  MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                  Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                  WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                  Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                  SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                  Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                  Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                  Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                  MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                  Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                  win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                  HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                  CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                  E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                  Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                  Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                  HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                  win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
                  .

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                  • #10
                    Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

                    AMD Phenom X4 9650 - HD9650WCJ4BGH / HD9650WCGHBOX I find something maybe it will help you.

                    I don t know but last one what i can buy is x4 9650 phenom. I cannot find selling anybody older edition than x4 9650 phenom, and x2 are to expesive for against x4.
                    Last edited by okno123svk; 05-07-2013, 03:18 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

                      I get answer from Emilly
                      I think you should post it even on website on somewhere on sticky because it is gonna help a lots of people i think.


                      ALiveNF6G-VSTA

                      Dear customer,
                      Thanks for contacting ASRock via TweakTown Forum.

                      About the question of using AM3 CPU, please kindly update the latest BIOS L2.26 from the attached file to try.
                      Due to the resource limitation, we couldn't help you to scan all AM3 CPU.
                      But we test below CPU with L2.26, these CPU can be supported by L2.26.
                      The CPU list is as below for your referance.
                      1. AthlonII X2 245 (ADX245OCK23GQ)
                      2. AthlonII X2 240 (ADX240OCK23GQ)
                      3. AthlonII X4 620 (ADX620WFK42GI)
                      4. AthlonII X4 630 (ADX630WFK42GI)
                      5. PhenomII X4 955 (HDZ955FBK4DGI)

                      Thanks for your support and TT message.


                      Have a nice day

                      So it looks like YES it s gonna support am3 procesors even 4x.

                      I will try use one x3 procesor and will let know if it work.

                      But now i have a problem because i don t know how i should update BIOS.
                      According to page i should have SMART page in my BIOS setup i dont have such thing.
                      However i find video Asrock alive nf6g-vsta bios 2.26 - YouTube. But i dont know if it will work. And i have that file on the USB DISK.

                      So what i should do ? Should i put 1st boot from USB and then just write UPDATE ??? Please help me how to flash my BIOS.

                      Thank you for help.

                      BIG THANKS TO ASSROCK SUPPORT FOR TRYING PROCESORS JUST BECAUSE OF ME.

                      P.S: Do you think that it will AMD ATHLON II x4 640 work when 630 working ???
                      Last edited by okno123svk; 05-10-2013, 05:49 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

                        Can somebody help me how i flash bios on board alivenf6g vsta.

                        According to assrock page i should have SMART page in my BIOS setup i dont have such thing.
                        However i find video Asrock alive nf6g-vsta bios 2.26 - YouTube. But i dont know if it will work. And i have that file on the USB DISK.

                        So what i should do ? Should i put 1st boot from USB and then just write UPDATE ??? Please help me how to flash my BIOS.

                        Thank you for your answers.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Welcome to ASRock Technical Support Forum!

                          @ okno123svk
                          When you download the ALiveNF6G-VSTA(L2.26).zip bios file it will be in zip compressed file format and you need to unzip this file and copy the unzipped file to your usb drive for flashing. The unzipped file name is ALVN6VT2.26

                          The video that you linked to uses a different method of bios flashing.
                          It looks like he created a bootable CD that has a bios flashing program named Update on the CD.
                          You can't use this method if you don't know know exactly what you are doing.

                          On the Beta download page, the How To Update icon displays the following Instant Flash instructions:
                          Method 1:
                          1. Save the BIOS files on a device such as USB disk (FAT32 format), hard disk (FAT32 format) and floppy drive.
                          2. Press < F2 > during POST to get into BIOS setup menu.
                          3. Select the utility under [Smart] menu to execute it.

                          Do you see Smart menu option near the upper left corner on your bios screen after pressing F2?
                          Last edited by profJim; 05-12-2013, 05:46 PM.
                          Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                          P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                          4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                          MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                          Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                          WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                          Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                          SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                          Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                          Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                          Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                          MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                          Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                          HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                          CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                          E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                          Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                          Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                          HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
                          .

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                          • #14
                            Re: ALiveNF6G-VSTA and AM3 cpu support?

                            When i was in Bios i try to pres every F buton from F1 to F12 but i still didn t get SMART option.

                            How much speed would i lost if x4 procesor would work ? It is even worthy paying 70euros(about 90dollars) for athlon x4 640 or performance will be almost same as on am3 mobo ? I hope you understand me with my english. :)

                            BTW thank you for moving thread. It much easier to follow answers on one place.

                            Thank you BIG for helping me.
                            Last edited by okno123svk; 05-12-2013, 08:23 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: ALiveNF6G-VSTA and AM3 cpu support?

                              You're welcome.

                              According to the flashing instructions when you Press F2 during POST, this will bring you to the BIOS setup menu.
                              From the BIOS setup menu you should select the Instant Flash utility in the Smart menu portion of the window to run it.

                              Look at the attached picture on the left.
                              The red box on the top left is for the SMART menu.
                              The red box on the bottom left is for the ASRock INSTANT FLASH UTILITY and this what you want to run to flash your bios.
                              The only way I could barely read this information was by viewing the window on the left in full screen mode in my image editing program.

                              note to ASRock:
                              1. These pictures need to have much higher resolution and the bios flashing instructions should be available as a high quality PDF file that can be downloaded!!
                              2. The bios flashing instructions should also say the the downloaded bios file is in the ZIP file format and that this file needs to be unzipped where the unzipped bios file needs to be copied to the usb flash drive or another drive that is formatted using FAT32.



                              Low resolution bios flashing instructions from the ASRock web page from the How To Update instructions.


                              ** edit **
                              Someone else will need to advise you on AMD cpu performance.
                              My only AMD experience was many years ago with an AMD K6 cpu.
                              Last edited by profJim; 05-12-2013, 09:00 PM.
                              Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                              P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                              4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                              MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                              Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                              WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                              Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                              SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                              Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                              Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                              Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                              MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                              Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                              win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                              HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                              CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                              E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                              Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                              Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                              HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                              win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
                              .

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