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  • 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

    i heard about the new 7800gs and i wanted to know if it is way better than the 6800gs i know you can unlock the pipes on the 6800gs and overclock it to like an ultra i want to know wat cinefx 4.0 is because that is wat the 7800gs has and the 6800gs has the older cinefx 3.0 dose it make a diffrenc cause im ordering the 6800gs soon and i wanted to know is i should wait

    here are the specs of the 7800gs and 6800gs and they are also from BFG

    GPU NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6800GS
    <TABLE style="WIDTH: 172.5pt; mso-cellspacing: 0in; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 0in" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=230 border=0><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 7.05pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 7.05pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" vAlign=top width=227>Memory: 256MB GDDR3

    </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 10.05pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 10.05pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" vAlign=top width=227>Core Clock: 370 MHz (vs. 350MHZ standard) <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 10.45pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 10.45pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" vAlign=top width=227>Memory Clock: 1050MHz (vs. 1000MHZ standard) <o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 7.05pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 7.05pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>RAMDAC Dual 400MHz<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.65pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 15.65pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>API Support Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0, OpenGL for Microsoft® Windows® <o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 10.05pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 10.05pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>Connectors: VGA, DVI, S-Video-Out <o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 7.05pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 7.05pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>555 million Vertices/Sec setup<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 6.7pt"><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; HEIGHT: 6.7pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>33.6GB/second memory bandwidth<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    GPU NIVIDIA® GeForce™ 7800 GS
    <TABLE style="WIDTH: 172.5pt; mso-cellspacing: 0in; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 0in" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=230 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" vAlign=top width=227>Memory: 256MB GDDR3<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" vAlign=top width=227>Core Clock: 400MHz (vs. 375MHz standard)<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" vAlign=top width=227>Memory Clock: 1250MHz (vs. 1200MHz standard)<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>RAMDAC Dual 400MHz<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 and lower, OpenGL 2.0 and lower for Microsoft® Windows®<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>Connectors:VGA, DVI-I, S-Video Out <o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>600 million Vertices/Sec.<o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 170pt; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=227>40.0GB/second memory bandwidth <o:p></o:p>

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

  • #2
    Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

    Hey zach just saying wassup? I think the price of the 7800gs is not worth how close the 6800gs is in performance. The cine fx 4.0, heh i wouldent worry about it.

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    • #3
      Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

      ok thanks

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      • #4
        Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

        Did not know they made 6800gs and 7800gs in agp.
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        • #5
          Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

          @ AsianBatman .....They are recent releases

          @ Zach ...... check around, there are a couple of models of 7800GS, I saw one reviewed at clocks of 470/1300. Also according to the Guru3D (the home of Unwinder and RivaTuner) review of the 7800GS there are no unlockable pipelines in the 7800's
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          • #6
            Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

            The 7800GS is significantly better than the 6800GS and will probably be the last AGP offering from nVidia. Whether or not the performance improvement is worth the price increase is up to you. Your CPU will limit the 7800GS in some games, while the 6800GS is a near-perfect match for it.

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            • #7
              Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

              6800GS is a kick ass card. I got 2 of them in SLI and they run perfect! I had 2 7800GTX cards in this system and they were extremely bottlenecked. These cards are definitely not and I am extremely happy! And the AGP version is almost a guarranty to unlock.
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              • #8
                Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                thaks again for your help also anzac elite the 7800gs with clockes of 470/1300 are from evga but really i like bfg way more and the fact it has life time warrenty

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                • #9
                  Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                  eVGA has a lifetime warrenty too, in fact its even better than BFG's. I used to be a BFG fan. Now with eVGA since I can overclock, replace the stock heatsink, and do anything to the card as long as I dont physicaly damage it, the warrenty is still valid.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                    Absolutely right, fully guaranteed against anything besides physical damage. EVGA has the best warranty available today.
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                    AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
                    Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
                    Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
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                    PC P&C 500W PSU
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                    • #11
                      Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                      What are Unlockable pipelines? How do they help or hurt you?

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                      • #12
                        Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                        Unlockable pipelines are good as long as the actual pipes are good. Most of the 6800GS AGP cards have 4 unlockable pixel pipelines and that improves performance. The PCI-E versions do not have these hidden pipelines as they use a different core.

                        Basically, they all come with 12 Pixel Pipelines. The AGP version has 4 hidden pipelines that brings the total to 16. Sometimes, the extra pipelines are no good and you cannot either open them, or they just malfunction and you would have to close them.
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                        AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
                        Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
                        Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
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                        PC P&C 500W PSU
                        2TB Seagate
                        Coolermaster 690II w/Corsair H100 tucked under the hood

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                        • #13
                          Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                          What kind of power supply would you need for this? I have a 500W in my older machine and my 6600 AGP did not work. I have about 6 HD's in this system plus 2 DVD-RW's. It's a nv a7n8x-E Deluxe based system.

                          Once I get this 7800 gs or 6800 gs it'll become my wife's machine. (ok, it'll become mine, since she's taken over the pci-e machine hahhahahah 7800gtx for solitaire can you dig it!!!)

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                          • #14
                            Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                            Originally posted by raveolution
                            Once I get this 7800 gs or 6800 gs it'll become my wife's machine. (ok, it'll become mine, since she's taken over the pci-e machine hahhahahah 7800gtx for solitaire can you dig it!!!)
                            Talk about overkill

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                            • #15
                              Re: 7800gs or 6800gs for agp

                              Originally posted by raveolution
                              What kind of power supply would you need for this? I have a 500W in my older machine and my 6600 AGP did not work. I have about 6 HD's in this system plus 2 DVD-RW's. It's a nv a7n8x-E Deluxe based system.

                              Once I get this 7800 gs or 6800 gs it'll become my wife's machine. (ok, it'll become mine, since she's taken over the pci-e machine hahhahahah 7800gtx for solitaire can you dig it!!!)
                              This makes absolutely no sense at all. Why in the world would you build a system like that and then use it that way. Must be nice to have money to toss away. If she only plays solitaire, get a 6200 for this PC and take the 7800GTX back. Just plain a waste.
                              GIgabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
                              AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
                              Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
                              Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
                              Creative X-FI titanium HD w/Technics class A 300W amp and tower speakers
                              PC P&C 500W PSU
                              2TB Seagate
                              Coolermaster 690II w/Corsair H100 tucked under the hood

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