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  • Operation the crap out of my i7-920

    Now that my motherboard is fixed again, time to break it! Ive seen some guys run obscenely high QPIs, like well over 4GHz. Is this useful? Seems like its fast enough even at stock. How it is even possible? Just good board? I max out at 3.6, 3.65GHz might work, but with 3.7 just all kinds of weird stuff starts happening. Luckily the F13 BIOS for my EX58-UD5 fixes the QPI slow mode bug so now i have more bclk headroom. Any tips getting to 4.6GHz? :D 4.2 is stable with 1.3125V in BIOS. Not really hit terrible diminishing returns yet. IBT temps 67C. Seems like i hit a wall at 220BCLK even with QPI slow :(
    Last edited by maser; 03-05-2012, 09:08 AM.

  • #2
    Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

    How are you able to boot above 215bclk on EX58-UD5. Bclk is limited to pci-e and unless you did a hardware mod to your board it should be limited to 215bclk as pci-e is locked to 102 I believe. This is why they came out with X58A-UDx as the X58A has the hardware mod built in to unlock the bclk and pci-e.

    You should not need to use qpi slow mode till you pass 230 bclk which you will never be able to do on that board.

    Bclk/mem spd/mem timings/uncore/qpi are all based off qpi/vtt voltage.

    Also depends on the cpu how well its IMC is depends how well it will overclock.
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    • #3
      Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

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      • #4
        Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

        LOL. But some times I just want to get the whip out and just beat it
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        • #5
          Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

          Yes me too.

          Are you saying the board shouldnt boot 220BCLK? Ran a good 15 mins of memtest before and now about and hour of youtube. IIRC BIOS allows me to raise PCIE very high, but i worry about SATA. Cant find anything definitive out there.

          How NOT to use QPI slow? Why not? Anything above 3.6GHz QPI is really not stable. If it can be, how? I tried even 1.4V QPI/VTT before F13 BIOS, but 210BCLK was still weird. (missing lines in boot, hangs etc.)

          now running:

          Gonna start with the CPU in the morning.

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          • #6
            Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

            Ok I was wroung on the max bclk for that board and the pci-e mod is needed. see here http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...-max-bclk.html and Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread - Page 182. But your are at that point now.

            What are you using to stress test? How is it now stable, are programs crashing, bsod?

            Grab a bios template and please give us a full complete list of your current bios settings. This way we can look over and see what could be wrong.
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            • #7
              Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

              Ya, you can run 222-228 probably without the mod, depending on the board, CPU and other hardware, voltages used, and PCI freq used.

              But to get above that you have to do the HARD MOD << And it is HARD as those are TINY! Once you do the hard mod you might be able to get more Bclk, but to really surpass 228-230 you need to take the board to colder temps (Phase, Dice, Ln2)

              For everyday benchmarking, about the best you can hope for even with the mod is 225-23x, until you go cold. Using a PCI graphics card will help, and a IDE hard drive will also help!

              That will relive some resources off the QPI/PICE bus and allow higher PCI freq to be set due to no PCIE devices being used, and SATA hard drives (And onboard LAN) normally tend to drop out at around 120-125

              Use SetFSB, because the BIOS PCI setting may not actually be doing anything, you can verify if it is or not with SetFSB. Use ICS9LPRS918BKL Clock Gen

              When you are not using QPI Slow mode (IE x36 or above) anything under or around 4GT/s QPI should be fine and stable, once you find the right voltages. I can run 4.2-4.3GT/s QPI stable without needing a mod or QPI Slow mode on these older boards.

              It's the high Bclk itself probably causing you issues, not the QPI or uncore speeds.
              Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 03-05-2012, 11:56 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

                Advanced CPU Features: CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21x]
                Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
                CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
                CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
                CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
                C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
                CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
                CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
                Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
                Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Disabled]

                Uncore & QPI Features:
                QPI Link Speed .............................. Slow mode
                Uncore Frequency .......................... x13, on F12 x12 was a no POST no matter what, havent tried it yes on F13
                Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

                Standard Clock Control:
                Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
                BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [205]
                PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [101]
                C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

                Advanced Clock Control:
                CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
                PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV]
                CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
                IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

                Advanced DRAM Features:
                Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
                Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
                System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [6.0]
                DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]

                Channel A + B + C Channel A Timing Settings:
                ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
                CAS Latency Time ...................... [8]
                tRCD ....................................... [8]
                tRP ......................................... [8]
                tRAS ....................................... [24]

                Advanced Voltage Control:

                CPU
                Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
                CPU Vcore ............................... [1.3500]
                QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............[1.3000]
                CPU PLL 1.800v .......................[1.8800]

                MCH/ICH
                PCIE 1.500v ...........................[1.5000]
                QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[1.1000]
                IOH Core 1.100v .....................[1.1200]
                ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[1.5000]
                ICH Core 1.1v ........................[1.1000]

                DRAM
                DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.6400]
                DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
                Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

                Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. Everything below are on Auto.

                4.3GHz is not stable yet :( Using the quick n dirty IBT standard for now.
                </pre>
                Last edited by maser; 03-06-2012, 05:50 AM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

                  What is your actual goal here, higher CPU freq or what? Once we know we can better advise

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                  • #10
                    Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

                    He is having trouble at his current overclock keeping qpi at 36x. He says he needs to use qpi slow mode at his overclock.

                    Advanced Clock Control:
                    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
                    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV]
                    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
                    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
                    First it looks like you are not using Optimized defaults. Please choose Optimized defaults and try your overclock again. Try qpi/pll 1.2-1.3v
                    Last edited by Acebmxer; 03-06-2012, 08:05 AM.
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                    Samsung Green 8GB 2x4GB MV-3V4G3D/US DDR3 1.3v 30nn @ 2200Mhz 11-11-11-32 1.60v
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                    Sony Optiarc DVD-RW AD-7240S on Intel sata3 controller port5
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                    • #11
                      Re: Operation the crap out of my i7-920

                      Ahh ok, well I wasn't sure what he wanted eventually, his post is kind of confusing

                      @ Maser, do the above mentioned! If you are starting with Fail Safe that is bad, so be sure you load Optimized Defaults, then save/apply/reboot BACK to the BIOS. Once in the BIOS again set your SATA Settings to what you need for windows, and ram voltage or any other important settings to you (But not overclock yet) then save/apply/reboot to windows. Then reboot and get back trying your overclock.

                      Try these setting changes from your above given ones.

                      Code:
                      Advanced CPU Features: CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21x]
                      Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
                      CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
                      CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
                      CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
                      C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
                      CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
                      CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
                      Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
                      Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Disabled]
                      
                      Uncore & QPI Features:
                      QPI Link Speed .............................. Slow mode << Set x36 (only 7.3GT/s, this if fine, and anything up towards 8GT/s should be too)
                      Uncore Frequency .......................... Set x16 or above for x6 memory multiplier, at these speeds using x12-x15 might be too slow, optimial uncore speed is 3.2/3.4 - 3.6+
                      Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
                      
                      Standard Clock Control:
                      Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
                      BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [205]
                      PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [101]
                      C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
                      
                      Advanced Clock Control:
                      CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
                      PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV] << DO NOT manually change, if you do as instructed above with Optimized it will be set properly
                      CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
                      IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
                      
                      Advanced DRAM Features:
                      Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]  << Extreme may be best!  I've ALWAYS used it, even at 2.8Ghz memory speeds
                      Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
                      System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [6.0]  << x8 may help, if you do that set Uncore above to x16-18
                      DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]
                      
                      Channel A + B + C Channel A Timing Settings:
                      ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
                      CAS Latency Time ...................... [8]
                      tRCD ....................................... [8]
                      tRP ......................................... [8]
                      tRAS ....................................... [24]
                      
                      Advanced Voltage Control:
                      
                      CPU
                      Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
                      CPU Vcore ............................... [1.3500] -1.45+ All depends on your CPU
                      QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............[1.3000] - 1.45+  << Higher Uncore, QPI, Tight Memory, High Memory, all require higher voltages here, and what your CPU likes too, some need a lot others don't.   
                      CPU PLL 1.800v .......................[1.8800]  << Lower, higher does not help X58 really.   Set 1.4-1.7
                      
                      MCH/ICH
                      PCIE 1.500v ...........................[1.5000]
                      QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[1.1000] << 1.20
                      IOH Core 1.100v .....................[1.1200] Stock/Auto -1.14 should be plenty, higher can cause errors often, NB Gets HOT
                      ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[1.5000]
                      ICH Core 1.1v ........................[1.1000]  << 1.14
                      
                      DRAM
                      DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.6400]-1.68
                      DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
                      Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                      Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                      Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                      Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                      Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
                      Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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