Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

[davidffa]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

Ok, thanks again for your help wazza. I will give it another go tomorrow. This is my current setup btw.

My X58 Template for 3.8GHZ:

0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage

CPU = i7-950
Motherboard = GA-x58A-ud3r rev 2
BIOS Version = FE
Ram = 12GB (2GBx6) Corsair Triple Channel Ram, TR3X6G1600C9,

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency .......................... [x21]
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................[160]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x10]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[9]
tRCD .......................................[9]
tRP .........................................[9]
tRAS .......................................[24]


##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................[AUTO] (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................[AUTO]
tWTR ...................................... [AUTO](Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................[AUTO]
tWTP .......................................[AUTO] (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................ [AUTO] (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................[AUTO]
tRTP .......................................[AUTO]
tFAW ......................................[AUTO]
Command Rate (CMD) ................

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................[AUTO]

B2B CAS Delay ..........................[AUTO]


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]
CPU Vcore ...............................[Normal]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............[1.315V]
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................[AUTO]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
IOH Core 1.100v .....................[AUTO]
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[AUTO]
ICH Core 1.1v ........................[AUTO]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............[1.66V]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[wazza300]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

^^ if cpu voltage is on normal you can enable eist,c3/c6 and c1e to help reduce temps,it shouldnt affect stability,everything else looks fine,if enabling c1e gives you mb squeal/noise like mine does then disable it and use balanced power profile in win7 power options

[davidffa]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

Ok so I tried this and it posted fine. Idle temps were at 43C, 3C up from previous. I then ran an intel burn test. About 40s in, I got a blue screen:



Below were the settings I used:

CPU = i7-950
Motherboard = GA-x58A-ud3r rev 2
BIOS Version = FE
Ram = 12GB (2GBx6) Corsair Triple Channel Ram, TR3X6G1600C9,

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency .......................... [x17]
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................[200]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[9]
tRCD .......................................[9]
tRP .........................................[9]
tRAS .......................................[24]


##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................[AUTO] (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................[AUTO]
tWTR ...................................... [AUTO](Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................[AUTO]
tWTP .......................................[AUTO] (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................ [AUTO] (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................[AUTO]
tRTP .......................................[AUTO]
tFAW ......................................[AUTO]
Command Rate (CMD) ................

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................[AUTO]

B2B CAS Delay ..........................[AUTO]


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]
CPU Vcore ...............................[1.375V]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............[1.395V]
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................[AUTO]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
IOH Core 1.100v .....................[AUTO]
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[AUTO]
ICH Core 1.1v ........................[AUTO]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............[1.66V]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

I saw on one of the BSOD lists that 3B means you should add more CPU voltage. So I bumped it up two notches to 1.395V. Everything posted fine. Ran intel burn test again and this time the screen froze within 10 seconds for a few moments then went into a black screen and stayed stuck. After a 7 seconds nothing changed so I powered off an on then reset the settings to my previous 3.8ghz setting.

I had read about BSOD, and auto restarts, but not a blank freeze - is that an error to be expected?

[wazza300]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

It could be not enough qpi/vtt,it wont hurt anything if it freezes,just means its not 100% stable,you could need either more CPU or qpi/vtt voltage

[earthdog]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

My setup is this:

-i7 950
-X58a-UDR3
-Corsair XMS3 1600 c7
-H60 hydro

Overclocked to a stable 4 Ghz. I cant go further, seems i cant increase the bclk from 174 that it is now...

Can somebody please direct me as to what i have done wrong..I think i should be able to go to 185 bclk with no prob...I would be very happy with a 4.4-4.5

[wazza300]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

try 21x200 bclk = 4.2ghz
set system performance enhance to standard
set cpu clock drive to 800mv
set pci expres clock drive to 900mv
set spd memory multiplier manually to give you 1600mhz ram speed(im asuming you have 1600 mhz ram?)
set uncore freq to 17x
try with around 1.35v for both qpi/vtt and cpu voltage

[earthdog]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

try 21x200 bclk = 4.2ghz
set system performance enhance to standard
set cpu clock drive to 800mv
set pci expres clock drive to 900mv
set spd memory multiplier manually to give you 1600mhz ram speed(im asuming you have 1600 mhz ram?)
set uncore freq to 17x
try with around 1.35v for both qpi/vtt and cpu voltage

yeap ram is 1600.. did the above , but in order to be stable i had to disable also HT and push qpi/vtt voltage to around 1.40 and keep vcore 1.35

i was getting 124 BSOD codes and i think that it was the qpi voltage not the vcore.

I will upgrade my h60 to h100 tommorow and try to stabilize 4.2 and aim for 24x7 4.4

how can i go there? should i try tio increase bclk or increase multi?

validator: CPU-Z Validator 3.1

[Acebmxer]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

I ment to comment earlier about the bosd error 0x3b hat was is fore vcore, and error 124 that is qpi/vtt not enough or too much.

If you have not already take a look at the link in my sig for bsod error codes and their correction.

Dont be affraid of qpi/vtt voltage I would say try to keep it under 1.45v for 24/7 use. Depending on ram speed/timings and bclk you may need up 1.6v see here http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post312297.

Main thing is to keep a eye on the core temps, try to keep then at or around 80c at full load for 24/7 use.

As far as pushing it far there I would keep HT disabled anything over 4.0-4.2ghz it just adds too much extra heat. You could/should be able to push 215 bclk easy. But your cpu does use 23,25x cpu multi it would just need more vcore.

[earthdog]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

Thanks! I will get myself an H100 to replace my h60 and i ll try to fit it in my haf 922.. if all goes well i will try 4.4-4.5 because i will have my head in peace regarding the temps :)

[wazza300]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

buy some good quality thermal paste aswell,like tuniq mx2 or tx3

depends on your chip too,i have one that needs alot of voltage for 4.2ghz,but the chip in my sig only needs 1.26v for 4.2ghz,aslong as you can keep temps down then high voltage doesnt really matter,its up to you whether you want to use high cpu multi or not,just test and find the best combo for you regarding stability,theres no real right/wrong in choosing high bclk/low multi or vice versa

[RJT]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

try 21x200 bclk = 4.2ghz
set system performance enhance to standard
set cpu clock drive to 800mv
set pci expres clock drive to 900mv
set spd memory multiplier manually to give you 1600mhz ram speed(im asuming you have 1600 mhz ram?)
set uncore freq to 17x
try with around 1.35v for both qpi/vtt and cpu voltage

Thanks, these settings worked great for me. Lowered vcore a bit, to 1.3375mv (1.312 w/ vdroop in CPUZ). Idles at 34-39c; 68c at full load. Seems stable in games, I ran a Prime 95 blend test for a while and passed 2-3 very high-stress tests in Intel Burn... no issues whatsoever!

I'm gonna be upgrading my ram to 12gbs and migrate my OS to a ssd this week. When Kepler launches I'm gonna buy a hydrocopper 680(?) too. That should keep me tight for another year.

Question: Could anyone tell me if a MCR220 rad and MCP655-P pump, with great airflow and cool ambient temps would support a single cpu-gpu loop? Or would I need 2 seperate loops?

Cheers,
RJT

[wazza300]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

remember you will need more qpi/vtt with 12gb of ram,do you really need that much? as for ssd which one are you thinking of buying? as there are two types that use different nand memory,ones good and one gives poorer results when drives half full

[RJT]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

remember you will need more qpi/vtt with 12gb of ram,do you really need that much? as for ssd which one are you thinking of buying? as there are two types that use different nand memory,ones good and one gives poorer results when drives half full

Hmmmm, good points. I'm moving to 12gbs of ram because although I have my 1gb 460 SLI overclocked to 825 processor clock and 1950 memory, I find BF3 struggles somewhat on very high settings with the gpu vram limit of 1gb. I wanted to have more system ram available to help out until I get my new video card(s). I like having lotsa ram too! :) What do you think I'd need to raise my qpi/vtt to to handle 12gbs of ram? I'm getting the same brand as I have now at 6gbs, and my current timings are 8-8-8-24 2T @ 1.64v (xmp = off in bios)

This is the ssd I'm getting: Patriot PP240GS25SSDR Pyro 2.5" Solid State Drive - 240GB, SATA III 6Gb/s. It has a Sandforce processor and 550/515 read/write speeds and has had some great reviews. As you know the x58a-ud3r has a 6gb/s sata port, so I want to take advantage of that. All I'm going to migrate to it are the OS and maybe 3-4 of the games I play most often, the rest I'll leave on my velociraptor hdd. After all is said and done, I estimate I'll have less than75-100gbs on the 240gb drive. I'm going to use the Paragon hdd-->ssd migration tool. Think that'll be ok?

Thanks!
RJT

[wazza300]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

i dont know if that ssd uses superior synchronous nand memory or asynchronous which isnt as good,plus your mb will have the first version of the marvell controller which will give you poor sata3 performance,might be even less performance than intel sata2,however you can still buy a sata3 ssd it will work fine on sata2 ports and just wont be as fast as the newer marvell or the top dog intel sata3 ports found on newer mb's,if you did use the sata3 on that board

as for qpi/vtt idk it all depends on your chip and oc,i was needing 1.3750v at stock clocks with 12gb of ram

[RJT]

Re: Help overclocking a ga-x58a-ud3r r2.0 for i7 950

i dont know if that ssd uses superior synchronous nand memory or asynchronous which isnt as good,plus your mb will have the first version of the marvell controller which will give you poor sata3 performance,might be even less performance than intel sata2,however you can still buy a sata3 ssd it will work fine on sata2 ports and just wont be as fast as the newer marvell or the top dog intel sata3 ports found on newer mb's,if you did use the sata3 on that board

as for qpi/vtt idk it all depends on your chip and oc,i was needing 1.3750v at stock clocks with 12gb of ram

I'm thinking I might flash my bios to the newest beta version or the F6 before installing the extra memory and ssd. The Sata III ssd I'm getting is backwards compatible so I'm covered if I need to us the Sata II port. I'll update later this week with my success/failure.

Thanks for help! :)