Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

[profJim]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Your load temperatures aren't too bad.

Because you refuse to post a screen-shot we don't know if you are running the E8400 or your Q9550.

Post a screen-shot that includes:

• Cpu-z, cpu window
• Memset where you click on the SPD and ">>" options
• MaxxMem2 memory benchmark results

Your boot problem might be related to your memory speed, timings and/or voltage settings.

You also need to post an accurate full bios template that shows the failed boot settings.

[cynicoren]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Sorry, the questions about the 9550 were theoretical ( i thought about switching to), but I still have the E8400.

Failed boot that got me a BSOD settings were what was suggested, aka:
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [402]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [101]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control___________[+0.10] and with +0.2
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control_________[+0.10] and with +0.2

All other definitions were not changed by me from what I posted on page 1 of the thread.
Your previous offer that worked fine:
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [366]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [101]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control___________[+0.10]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control_________[+0.10]

All requested screens: E8400 OC - Imgur . These screens refer to the current stable settings:


CPU Clock Ratio ___________________[9x]
Fine CPU clock ratio_______________+0.0
CPU Frequency _____________________[3.40GHz (378x9)]
CPU Host Clock Control_____________Disabled
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [378]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [101]
C.I.A.2____________________________Disabled
Performance Enhance________________[Turbo]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)_____[AUTO]
Memory Frequency(MHz)____[800]_____[800]
DRAM Timing Selectable___(SPD)_____[AUTO]

******Clock driving & skew control *********
CPU/PCOEXlock driving control______[ 800mV]
CPU clock skew control_____________[Normal]
(G)MCH clock skew control__________[Normal]

System Voltage Control_____________[Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control___________[+0.1]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control__________[Normal]
FSB OverVoltage Control____________[+0.1]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control_________[+0.1]
Loadline calibration_______________[AUTO]
CPU Voltage Control________________[1.23125]
Normal CPU Vcore___________________[1.225V]

Thank you

[profJim]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Try these settings and report the Cpu-z Core Voltage at idle:

[FONT=Courier New]
[SIZE=2][COLOR="#800000"]CPU = E8400
Motherboard = X48-DS4
BIOS Version = F3B
Ram = G.Skll F2-6400CL4-2GBPK (4x2GB)
[COLOR="#800000"][COLOR="#A52A2A"] [/COLOR][/COLOR]
[COLOR="#000000"]
**** MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.): ****[/COLOR]

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ___________________[9x]
CPU Frequency _____________________[3.60GHz]
CPU Host Clock Control_____________[Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [402]  
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [101] 
Performance Enhance________________[Turbo] 
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)_____[2.40] 
Memory Frequency(MHz)____[800]_____[[B]965[/B]] 
DRAM Timing Selectable___(SPD)_____[Manual] 
 
[COLOR="#000000"]***** Standard Timing Control *****[/COLOR] 
CAS Latency Time________________5__[[B]5[/B]] 
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________5__[[B]5[/B]] 
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5__[[B]5[/B]] 
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________5__[[B]15[/B]]
 
[COLOR="#000000"]***** Advanced Timing Control *****[/COLOR] 
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)________ 3__[Auto] 
Rank Write to READ Delay_______ 3__[Auto] 
Write to Precharge Delay_______ 6__[Auto] 
Refresh to ACT Delay___________52__[Auto] 
Read to Precharge Delay________ 3__[Auto] 
Static tRead Value_____________ 7__[Auto] <-- this will be optimized later
Static tRead Phase Adjust______25__[Auto] 
 
System Voltage Control_____________[Manual] 
DDR2 OverVoltage Control___________[+0.1]  <--- +0.15 to +0.20 might be needed
FSB OverVoltage Control____________[+0.1]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control_________[+0.1]  <--- +0.15 to +0.25 might be needed
Loadline Calibration_______________[B][COLOR="#FF0000"][Disabled][/COLOR][/B] 
CPU Voltage Control________________[1.30000]  <--- somewhat higher might be needed
[COLOR="#808080"]Normal CPU Vcore___________________ 1.2250V [/COLOR]

[COLOR="#000000"]**** Advanced BIOS Features: ****[/COLOR]

Limit CPUID Max. to 3______________[Disabled] 
No-Execute Memory Protect__________[Enabled] 
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)____________[Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support_______________[Disabled]
C4/C4E State Support_______________[Disabled] 
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2)_________[Enabled] 
CPU EIST Function__________________[Disabled] 
Virtualization Technology__________[Disabled] <--- (*Note* Must be enabled for VMware/Virtual PC)
 
[COLOR="#000000"]**** Integrated Peripherals: ****[/COLOR]

SATA AHCI Mode_____________________[Enabled] 
SATA Port0-1 Native Mode___________[Enabled] 
Legacy USB Storage Detect__________[Disabled] <--- (*Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB) [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

[Chike]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

I fail to see a reason to try and push 8GB of DDR-800 to 965MHz, at least not while exploring CPU frequency.
I would set multiplier to x2.00(D?) 5-5-5-15 and cpu x8.5 to see it is still stable at 3.4GHz, then try 3.6GHz, then work tRD down, assuming temps will be too high to push the CPU further with stock cooling.
If 3.6GHz is too hot, maybe 3.5GHz 289x9.0 and maybe tCL 4 will be possible for memory.

[cynicoren]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Hello Chike,
Since these are my 1st steps I'll be happy if you clarify things, like what multiplier X2.00, what are tRD and tCL?

Thanks

[Chike]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Multiplier = System Memory Multiplier (SMM), I'm not sure about this board, but there are duplicate multipliers (e.g. 2) for different starps (bus frequency) A is for 266MHz, B is for 333MHz, C for 200MHz, and D is for 400MHz, if my memory serves me right.
This board may have it in different, like ~ or + or - to the right or left of the multiplier, I'm not sure which one is which but There should be a guide in GYGABYTE's forum.
tCL = CAS latency.
tRD = Static tRead Value, the lower it is better memory performance is. It's not a memory timing but rather a northbridge setting. In MemSet its is Performance Level.

For now all you need to set is SMM to 2.00D and timings of 5-5-5-15, leave tRD on auto.
If you manage to boot and run short tests with 3.4GHz you may try CPU Clock Ratio 9.0x

CPU Clock Ratio ___________________[[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]8.5x[/COLOR][/B]]
CPU Frequency _____________________[3.40GHz]
CPU Host Clock Control_____________[Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [402]  
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [101] 
Performance Enhance________________[[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]Standard[/COLOR][/B]] 
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)_____[[B][COLOR="#FF0000"]2.00D[/COLOR][/B]] 
Memory Frequency(MHz)____[800]_____[800] 
DRAM Timing Selectable___(SPD)_____[Manual] 
 
***** Standard Timing Control ***** 
CAS Latency Time________________5__[5] 
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________5__[5] 
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5__[5] 
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________5__[15]

[cynicoren]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Chicke,

The 8.5 option went well (examined for 5 minutes with 3 occt tests) , but when I tried to run X9 with 3 power options - default, Auto power, and the last power setup that held up with the 13% OC - ddr2 +0.1 fsb +0.1 G-mch 0.1 cpu v 1.23125 (normal is 1.225)

On the 1st and 3rd options I got BSOD, on the auto power OCCT failed after a few seconds.

ProfiJim -

I tried the versions you offered - with +0.15 and +0.2 on the options you mentioned, It crashed both times before reaching desktop - BSOD and telling me to repair windows etc.

[Chike]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

You probably need more vcore (cpu voltage) for 3.6GHz.
My suggestion regard the memory setting only, keep the volatges as they were before withi higher vcore, though you may have it run at lower MCH and VTT(FSB) over voltage, you have 0.025 steps if I'm not mistaken you can try to lower them later.
For BSODs the error code may help, so include them in your post.

EasyTune Tuner->Advanced->Voltage screen should show the actual values that are set, if you have it installed. Don't use it for OC though, make changes in BIOS.

[profJim]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

EasyTune Tuner->Advanced->Voltage screen should show the actual values that are set, if you have it installed. Don't use it for OC though, make changes in BIOS.

ET6 won't work with X48 or earlier motherboards.

EasyTune 5 or the ET5 Pro version is supported, but its displayed voltages are no where near as comprehensive or useful as in ET6.

[cynicoren]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

I somehow made it...into the 3.6 Ghz.
Took a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
I can't tell if these temps+setting are not damaging the system, so I'm loading some images, I hope it can help -

Settings: http://imgur.com/a/uacfa
monitoring (with and with no stress) : E8400 20% OC - Imgur

Thank you

[Chike]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Consider yourself lucky running so much memory at that frequency, most have enough trouble just having 4 dims running at stock.
Settings are fine, temps a bit high but it's expected with tock cooler.
Can you post MaxxMem screen capture?

[parsec]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Wow, you guys are suggesting he OC as much as he has with the stock CPU cooler?

Seems no CPU power saving options are enabled, idle core temps are 57C.

The OCCT 12V voltage reading must be wrong, the PC would shut down if those readings were correct. The 3.3V and 5V rails are a bit low even at idle, if they can be trusted given the 12V reading.

A good OC and memory speed, that's for sure. I've got an E8400 around here somewhere, could never OC it much with a Gigabyte P43 board.

[cynicoren]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

Hi parsec,

The power saving options were turned off in order to keep oc stable, as I was told here and there.

Chicke - here is the maxxmem data: imgur: the simple image sharer. And I guess some luck was involved, I'm happy my computer didn't burn after all these oc attempts...

[Chike]

Re: Overclocking the GA-X48-DS4 with the Intel E8400

You can do better than that.
IMO this is the minimum you should be aiming for:

Those are with relaxed timings.
You can probably do a bit better with the higer FSB and possibly with CAS 4
I have always used power saving functions. Normally it is suggested to turn them off while OCing then turn them on for final testings.
I suggest SMM 2.00D with timings manually set to 5-5-5-15, and tRD(Static tRead Value) 9. If stable try tRD 8 then 7.

Wow, you guys are suggesting he OC as much as he has with the stock CPU cooler?

I'm not suggesting abyone to overclock, I just help them if they do, I think he is aware about the highe temperatures.
As far as I can remember some voltages are not shown correctly for GB P4x boards.