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**lukevega** · 06-04-2014, 08:34 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

That's just past the 6 hour mark :)

Going to try the LinX test (fingers crossed it goes well!)

If it passes I'll keep using the system for at least an hour before trying another overclock, noting anything that seems amiss and probably keeping HWiNFO open.

**lukevega** · 06-04-2014, 11:25 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

All went well :)

I had to leave and so couldn't use my computer for the hour afterwards but I started a full virus scan which is still going and I have a log of the last couple of hours. I'm going to the cinema now so will leave the system turned on and use it some more tonight before making any further adjustments.

I notice that one of the LinX tests was quite far out from the others, but am not sure what this means or if I need to make any adjustments and since I'm taking my time to try and not make mistakes, I shall wait for your valued advice.

P.S. Power settings are currently set to 'High performance'.

**lukevega** · 06-04-2014, 05:08 PM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Well I played around for a while and didn't notice anything untoward from the system :)

Just changed the BIOS settings: (changes in bold)

Code:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Rev 2.0: BIOS Version: F9C
CPU: Intel Xeon X5460
RAM: Kingston Model: 4x2GB HyperX T1 DDR2-1066 CL5 Part#: KHX8500D2T1K2/4G (http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KHX8500D2T1K2_4G.pdf)
Power Supply Unit: Corsair HX520W
Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio __________________ [9]
Fine Clock Ratio __________________[0.5]
CPU Host Clock Control____________[Enabled]
[B]CPU Host Frequency (MHz)_________[379][/B]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)________[101]
C.I.A. 2__________________________[Disabled]
Performance Enhance = ____________[Standard]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)_____[2.00]
DRAM Timing Selectable_____ SPD ___[Manual]
 
[B]CAS Latency Time_______________5_[5]
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_[5]
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_[5]
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________18_[18][/B]
 
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3_[Auto]
Rank Write to READ Delay________3_[Auto]
Write to Precharge Delay_________6_[Auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay____________52_[Auto]
Read to Precharge Delay__________3_[Auto]
Static tRead Value_______________7_[7]
Static tRead Phase Adjust_________0_[Auto]
 
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
[B]DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.1V][/B]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
[B]CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.30000V][/B]
Normal CPU Vcore________1.23750V

Hard Disk Boot Priority.....: [Press Enter]
1.	Kingston SV300S37A240G
2.	ST3500320AS
3.	ST3500320AS
First Boot Device...........: [Hard Disk]
Second Boot Device......: [CDROM]
Third Boot Device.........: [Disabled]
Password Check...........: [Setup]
HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability......: [Disabled]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.........: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect.........: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...........: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ......: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function...............: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology..........: [Disabled]
Full Screen LOGO Show.........: [Disabled]
Init Display First............: [PEG]

SATA AHCI Mode.........: [AHCI]
SATA Port0-1 Native Mode.........: [Enabled]
USB Controller...........: [Enabled]
USB 2.0 Controller............: [Enabled]
USB Keyboard Support............: [Disabled]
USB Mouse Support..........: [Disabled]
Legacy USB Storage Detect��.[Disabled]
Azalia Codec............: [Auto]
Onboard H/W LAN............: [Enabled]
SMART LAN.................: [Press Enter]
Onboard LAN Boot ROM.......: [Disabled]
Onboard IDE Controller........: [Enabled]
Onboard Serial Port 1..........: [3F8/IRQ4]
Onboard Parallel Serial Port...: [378/IRQ7]
Parallel Port Mode................: [SPP]


ACP1 Suspend Type........: [S1(POS)]
Soft-Off by PWR-BTTN....: [Delay 4 Sec.]
PME Event Wake Up.......: [Disabled]
Power On by Ring.......: [Disabled]
Resume by Alarm......: [Disabled]
HPET Support..........: [Enabled]
HPET Mode.............: [64-bit mode]
Power On by Mouse.............: [Double Click]
Power On by Keyboard.........: [Disabled]
AC Back Function..................: [Soft-Off]

PCI1 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
PCI2 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
PCI3 IRQ Assignment............: [Auto]

Reset Case Open Status...........: [Disabled]
CPU Warning Temperature.......: [80�C/176�F]
CPU FAN Fail Warning...............: [Disabled]
SYSTEM FAN2 Fail Warning.......: [Disabled]
POWER FAN Fail Warning..........: [Disabled]
SYSTEM FAN1 Fail Warning.......: [Disabled]
CPU Smart FAN Control.............: [Disabled]

System booted into Windows fine :)

Here is a screenshot:

It might be a bit late to start a 6 hour HCi MemTest but I could possibly run it overnight.

What do you think?

**lukevega** · 06-05-2014, 06:09 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

I booted the system with the above BIOS settings and whilst idle on the homescreen got the following BSOD:

**profJim** · 06-05-2014, 11:05 PM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

I've never seen a 10 GFlops drop in one test.
It's possible that a background task started up for a brief time in the middle of your LinX test.

Can you upload your bsod 0x1e mini-dump file to a file sharing account and provide a link to the file?

Static tRead Value (tRD) = 7 should be OK, but you might need to increase this to 8.

As I recall, I used tRD = 7 up to about ~ 420MHz
Both of my systems require tRD = 8, but I'm using much higher FSB settings (438MHz and 445MHz).

I'm confused, in post #227 you are using 379 x 9.5 = 3.60GHz and using 4-4-4-12 memory timings with dram = 2.20 volts.
In post #228 you've changed to 5-5-5-18 timings with dram = 1.90 volts which should be OK.
In post #229 your system bsod'd with a bug check code = 0x1e while your system was idle at the desktop and you say:

I have since reverted back to the previous BIOS settings (3.748GHz) and will wait for further instruction.

Is the above information correct?
Did you mean 3.478GHz?
Are you testing me to see if I'm paying attention to the details?

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The following information is for possible future reference:

Running the built-in windows Verify utility might help solve the bsod 0x1e problem but it looks like it's rather involved.
The following information is from windows 7 x64 bluescreen 0x1e - Microsoft Community

Driver Verifier can help find some BSOD issues :

Using Driver Verifier to identify issues with Windows drivers for advanced users
Using Driver Verifier to identify issues with Windows drivers for advanced users

How To Troubleshoot Driver Problems in Windows Vista or 7.
Driver Verifier Manager & Device Manager in Windows

Using Driver Verifier
Using Driver Verifier (Windows Drivers)

How to use Windows Driver Verifier Manager to Troubleshoot & Identify Driver Issues - YouTube

Driver Verifier
Tech Support Forum - View Single Post - Windows Has Recovered From Unexpected Shutdown - Blue Screen of Death - BSOD

Using Driver Verifier - FaultWire.com

You can disable Driver Verifier
Using Driver Verifier to identify issues with Windows drivers for advanced users
Start - type in Search box -> verifier /reset (hit enter to disable)

Driver Verifier search results --> driver verifier - Search Microsoft.com

**lukevega** · 06-06-2014, 07:24 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Aww man I tried so hard not to make any mistakes!

Yeah, I meant I've gone back to the (6 hour stable) 3.478GHz BIOS settings.

Here is the minidump file: Zippyshare.com - 060514-12105-01.dmp

I'm watching the video guide for using driver verifier now :)

**profJim** · 06-07-2014, 05:09 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

It looks like Luke is taking a day or two off, something about a graduation celebration.

I've decided to raise the ante a bit with my Q9650 testing.

My air conditioning quit on me but I decided to run a 16 hour stress test with my system idle at the desktop and room temperature in the 27^o(C) range which is about 81^o(F). The result? No problems.

Not being able to leave well enough alone, I just had to go further and increased Cpu Host Frequency from 445 to 450MHz and decided to leave the cpu core voltage at the same 1.36875 volt setting. To further push the envelope, I changed my memory settings from 890MHz with 5-4-4-12 settings to 1082 with 5-5-5-15 timings with the same 2.15 volt memory settings. The only other bios change was to set tRFC to 62 with 1082MHz instead of 50 with 890MHz. To stress the system I decided to run LinX using all available memory for 8 iterations. Naturally the air conditioning still wasn't working for the LinX test.

And the result was: toasty but everything worked okie-dokie.

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**lukevega** · 06-08-2014, 07:00 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Ok, festivities are over... (for now!)

I'm still on the (seemingly stable) 3.478GHz BIOS settings:

Code:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Rev 2.0: BIOS Version: F9C
CPU: Intel Xeon X5460
RAM: Kingston Model: 4x2GB HyperX T1 DDR2-1066 CL5 Part#: KHX8500D2T1K2/4G (http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KHX8500D2T1K2_4G.pdf)
Power Supply Unit: Corsair HX520W
Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio __________________ [9]
Fine Clock Ratio __________________[0.5]
CPU Host Clock Control____________[Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)_________[366]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)________[101]
C.I.A. 2__________________________[Disabled]
Performance Enhance = ____________[Standard]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)_____[2.00]
DRAM Timing Selectable_____ SPD ___[Manual]
 
CAS Latency Time_______________5_[4]
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_[4]
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_[4]
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________18_[12]
 
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3_[Auto]
Rank Write to READ Delay________3_[Auto]
Write to Precharge Delay_________6_[Auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay____________52_[Auto]
Read to Precharge Delay__________3_[Auto]
Static tRead Value_______________7_[7]
Static tRead Phase Adjust_________0_[Auto]
 
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.5V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.26875V]
Normal CPU Vcore________1.23750V

Hard Disk Boot Priority.....: [Press Enter]
1.	Kingston SV300S37A240G
2.	ST3500320AS
3.	ST3500320AS
First Boot Device...........: [Hard Disk]
Second Boot Device......: [CDROM]
Third Boot Device.........: [Disabled]
Password Check...........: [Setup]
HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability......: [Disabled]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.........: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect.........: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...........: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ......: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function...............: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology..........: [Disabled]
Full Screen LOGO Show.........: [Disabled]
Init Display First............: [PEG]

SATA AHCI Mode.........: [AHCI]
SATA Port0-1 Native Mode.........: [Enabled]
USB Controller...........: [Enabled]
USB 2.0 Controller............: [Enabled]
USB Keyboard Support............: [Disabled]
USB Mouse Support..........: [Disabled]
Legacy USB Storage Detect��.[Disabled]
Azalia Codec............: [Auto]
Onboard H/W LAN............: [Enabled]
SMART LAN.................: [Press Enter]
Onboard LAN Boot ROM.......: [Disabled]
Onboard IDE Controller........: [Enabled]
Onboard Serial Port 1..........: [3F8/IRQ4]
Onboard Parallel Serial Port...: [378/IRQ7]
Parallel Port Mode................: [SPP]


ACP1 Suspend Type........: [S1(POS)]
Soft-Off by PWR-BTTN....: [Delay 4 Sec.]
PME Event Wake Up.......: [Disabled]
Power On by Ring.......: [Disabled]
Resume by Alarm......: [Disabled]
HPET Support..........: [Enabled]
HPET Mode.............: [64-bit mode]
Power On by Mouse.............: [Double Click]
Power On by Keyboard.........: [Disabled]
AC Back Function..................: [Soft-Off]


PCI1 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
PCI2 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
PCI3 IRQ Assignment............: [Auto]

Reset Case Open Status...........: [Disabled]
CPU Warning Temperature.......: [80�C/176�F]
CPU FAN Fail Warning...............: [Disabled]
SYSTEM FAN2 Fail Warning.......: [Disabled]
POWER FAN Fail Warning..........: [Disabled]
SYSTEM FAN1 Fail Warning.......: [Disabled]
CPU Smart FAN Control.............: [Disabled]

Last time I tried step 3 (Increase overclock to 3.6GHz [9.5 x 379] and increase vcore by 5 clicks) and the system was unstable and gave the previous BSOD whilst idle.
I don't know what your results of analysing the BSOD will be but I don't seem to be getting them with the current BIOS settings so I hope they aren't a hardware fault that can't be fixed.

Should I try increasing the overclock to 3.6GHz (9.5 x 379) again but this time increase the vcore by more than 5 clicks (above 1.3V) and maybe increase DDR2 OverVoltage Control to +0.2V with the 5-5-5-18 timings?

**profJim** · 06-08-2014, 08:39 PM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Let's try a slightly different approach using Cpu Clock Ratio = 9 and Fine Clock Ratio = 0.0

With CPU Host Frequency (MHz) = 380 and Cpu Clock Ratio = 9 your cpu speed will be 3.42GHz.

Increase CPU Voltage Control 1.26875V to 1.28125 which is 2 clicks higher.

I don't know if your windows Power setting = High Performance might be causing instability.
Change this setting to Balanced.

Another bios change you shoul make is to set ACPI Suspend Type = S1(POS) to S3.

With my 8GB setup I have FSB OverVoltage Control and (G)MCH OverVoltage Control both set to +0.2 with my higher cpu speeds.

Setting (G)MCH OverVoltage Control = +0.2 might be required now or with higher overclocks, but don't use this setting right now.

I recommend running a 5-loop LinX test using the maximum amount of available memory before you run a 6 - 8 hour stress test using HCI Memtest.

You should enable HWiNFO's logging feature so that we can review the cpu core temperatures and the systems voltages.

If your system is stable with both tests and doesn't BSOD when idle at the desktop, the next step will be to use the Cpu Clock ratio = 9 and CPU Host Frequency = 401 MHz and increase CPU Voltage Control = 1.29375 (2 clicks higher) and repeat the test procedure.

With cpu speeds higher than about 3.60GHz, cpu voltage increases will probably need to be increased more than 2 clicks for each 100MHz increase in cpu speeds and at some point much higher cpu voltages will be needed for small cpu speed increases.

Be sure to include a screen-shot to prove your settings.

**lukevega** · 06-09-2014, 04:05 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Righto - here we go :)

BIOS settings:

Code:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Rev 2.0: BIOS Version: F9C
CPU: Intel Xeon X5460
RAM: Kingston Model: 4x2GB HyperX T1 DDR2-1066 CL5 Part#: KHX8500D2T1K2/4G (http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/KHX8500D2T1K2_4G.pdf)
Power Supply Unit: Corsair HX520W
Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio __________________ [9]
[B]Fine Clock Ratio __________________[0][/B]
CPU Host Clock Control____________[Enabled]
[B]CPU Host Frequency (MHz)_________[380][/B]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)________[101]
C.I.A. 2__________________________[Disabled]
Performance Enhance = ____________[Standard]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)_____[2.00]
DRAM Timing Selectable_____ SPD ___[Manual]
 
CAS Latency Time_______________5_[4]
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_[4]
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_[4]
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________18_[12]
 
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3_[Auto]
Rank Write to READ Delay________3_[Auto]
Write to Precharge Delay_________6_[Auto]
Refresh to ACT Delay____________52_[Auto]
Read to Precharge Delay__________3_[Auto]
Static tRead Value_______________7_[7]
Static tRead Phase Adjust_________0_[Auto]
 
System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.5V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.28125V]
Normal CPU Vcore________1.23750V

Hard Disk Boot Priority.....: [Press Enter]
1.	Kingston SV300S37A240G
2.	ST3500320AS
3.	ST3500320AS
First Boot Device...........: [Hard Disk]
Second Boot Device......: [CDROM]
Third Boot Device.........: [Disabled]
Password Check...........: [Setup]
HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability......: [Disabled]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.........: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect.........: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...........: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ......: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function...............: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology..........: [Disabled]
Full Screen LOGO Show.........: [Disabled]
Init Display First............: [PEG]

SATA AHCI Mode.........: [AHCI]
SATA Port0-1 Native Mode.........: [Enabled]
USB Controller...........: [Enabled]
USB 2.0 Controller............: [Enabled]
USB Keyboard Support............: [Disabled]
USB Mouse Support..........: [Disabled]
Legacy USB Storage Detect��.[Disabled]
Azalia Codec............: [Auto]
Onboard H/W LAN............: [Enabled]
SMART LAN.................: [Press Enter]
Onboard LAN Boot ROM.......: [Disabled]
Onboard IDE Controller........: [Enabled]
Onboard Serial Port 1..........: [3F8/IRQ4]
Onboard Parallel Serial Port...: [378/IRQ7]
Parallel Port Mode................: [SPP]


[B]ACP1 Suspend Type........: [S3 (STR)][/B]
Soft-Off by PWR-BTTN....: [Delay 4 Sec.]
PME Event Wake Up.......: [Disabled]
Power On by Ring.......: [Disabled]
Resume by Alarm......: [Disabled]
HPET Support..........: [Enabled]
HPET Mode.............: [64-bit mode]
Power On by Mouse.............: [Double Click]
Power On by Keyboard.........: [Disabled]
AC Back Function..................: [Soft-Off]


PCI1 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
PCI2 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
PCI3 IRQ Assignment............: [Auto]

Reset Case Open Status...........: [Disabled]
CPU Warning Temperature.......: [80�C/176�F]
CPU FAN Fail Warning...............: [Disabled]
SYSTEM FAN2 Fail Warning.......: [Disabled]
POWER FAN Fail Warning..........: [Disabled]
SYSTEM FAN1 Fail Warning.......: [Disabled]
CPU Smart FAN Control.............: [Disabled]

Power plan = Balanced

Booted into Windows fine, HWiNFO running currently.

I left the RAM timings so hope I wasn't meant to change these also!

About to run the LinX test, I'll post the results shortly.

**lukevega** · 06-09-2014, 04:19 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

LinX test passed :)

About to start 6 hour HCi MemTest...

**profJim** · 06-09-2014, 04:41 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Uh, I hate to be a critic, but....
....using 2.30 volts with 4-4-4-12 timings for your ram at 760MHz seems somewhat excessive, even though your memory is rated for up to 2.20 - 2.30 volts.
I thought that you agreed to using the less demanding 5-5-5-18 settings for the time being.

While we are waiting for your results, here is a sample of my latest LinX-stable overclock; HCI Memtest has not been run:

I tried booting at 8.5 x 467MHz = 4.20GHz, but LinX locked up my system after running for two and a half minutes.
I settled for 9.0 x 462MHz = 4.157GHz with cpu vcore = 1.4375 volts.

No thank you, I'm not going to punish my cpu by running HCI Memtest for any length of time with these volts.

OK, I admit it, I'm wimping out just a little bit shy of 5.0GHz.

**lukevega** · 06-09-2014, 04:45 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Darn, it is so typical of me to always miss something!

Should I change the timings now and start again? the HCi MemTest has only been runnning for 30 minutes...

**profJim** · 06-09-2014, 05:49 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

Let it run for now, your memory voltage should be OK, but it's higher than necessary.

Using the stock 5-5-5-18 settings with 1.8 - 1.9 volts puts less strain on the memory sub-system and it's one less thing that might cause instability.

When you've reached your highest o/c goal, then we can tighten up the memory timings, try Performance Enhance = Turbo or Extreme, and see if you can enable EIST and C1E and still have a stable system.

**lukevega** · 06-09-2014, 10:41 AM

Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

HCi MemTest 6 hours passed:

Now to

Loosen the timings to 5-5-5-18 @ 1.9V
Keep Cpu Clock ratio = 9
Increase CPU Host Frequency = 401 MHz
Increase CPU Voltage Control = 1.29375 (2 clicks higher) and repeat the test procedure.

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