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  • X58 ssd question

    Just purchased a 250g Samsung 840 non pro SSD for my older GA-X58A-UDSR system (bios FF), plugged into the Sata 3gb/s connector as I understand the 6 gb/s Marvel is a waste of time.
    I moved Arma 3 over to it and have found I have a stuttering mess, so much so that I had to shut down mid game to move A3 back to my HD.

    Is there anything that can be done short of upgrading to make this workout?

    Cheers
    Fawlty
    Intel Core i7 930 Quad @ 3.5 GHz/Corsair H50 l Corsair Vengeance 12GB DDR3 | Gigabyte X58A-UD3R l Nvidia GTX 580 x 2sli | 2-1tb WD-BLK l Win7 pro 64 l Corsair HX 850 l Asus 27"1080p l CH-PT,FS,PP,TQ l TIR4w/TCP l G25 Racing Wheel

  • #2
    Re: X58 ssd question

    so if the game resides on the SSD the game studders??? but if it's on a normal platter drive it's fine?

    That doesn't make at all any sense....

    can you list out your drive configuration, you have your rig listed in your sig but nothing mentions your drives, also what OS, driver versions?

    Vin
    Main Rig
    OS = Win10-64Bit
    CPU = Ryzen 1700x Overclocked to 4Ghz with custom water-cooling loop
    Mem = 16GB RAM @ 3200Mhz
    MB = Asus ROG C6H
    GPU = Asus 1080Ti ROG Strix
    HD = 512GB M.2 Samsung 960 Pro
    PSU = EVGA SuperNOVA 1300w
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

    HTPC / Home Server
    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2012 Virtual Machine with 12GB ram assigned for homer server
    CPU = i7-980X @ 3.5Ghz CoolerMasster Hyper 212 Evo
    Mem = 24GB RAM
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios
    GPU = EVGA nVidia GT210
    HD = 2x PNY 120GB Raid 0 (OS)
    Storage = 8TB WD Black Storage
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Define R5

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    • #3
      Re: X58 ssd question

      Thanks for the feed back Vinster,
      I unplugged the SSD, will do a upgrade after summer.
      From what I've been reading I'll never get anywhere near top performance out of this older MB so the efforts are sort of in vain
      I did a speed test and my WD blacks were only off by about 20%

      Near Toronto but not in it

      How are things back in "HogTown" my home town
      Intel Core i7 930 Quad @ 3.5 GHz/Corsair H50 l Corsair Vengeance 12GB DDR3 | Gigabyte X58A-UD3R l Nvidia GTX 580 x 2sli | 2-1tb WD-BLK l Win7 pro 64 l Corsair HX 850 l Asus 27"1080p l CH-PT,FS,PP,TQ l TIR4w/TCP l G25 Racing Wheel

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      • #4
        Re: X58 ssd question

        it should run fine,try it on the marvell ports too,they are ok for single ssd

        as for intel ports make sure you set to ahci mode in the bios(same thing for marvell ports,they have a separate ahci settings in the bios)

        install the latest intel rapid storage drivers and be sure to run the latest bios for your board,theres also a recent firmware update for the Samsung 840's
        Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
        Intel i7 3770k 24/[email protected] 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
        Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
        Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
        1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
        1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
        Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
        Razer Lycosa Keyboard
        Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
        Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
        K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
        L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
        Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
        Fractal Arc Midi Case

        http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
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        • #5
          Re: X58 ssd question

          Hey Wazza, Is it possible to activate marvell ahci ports only for the ssd as I don't want to reinstall windows on the HD's (intel ports)
          Intel Core i7 930 Quad @ 3.5 GHz/Corsair H50 l Corsair Vengeance 12GB DDR3 | Gigabyte X58A-UD3R l Nvidia GTX 580 x 2sli | 2-1tb WD-BLK l Win7 pro 64 l Corsair HX 850 l Asus 27"1080p l CH-PT,FS,PP,TQ l TIR4w/TCP l G25 Racing Wheel

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          • #6
            Re: X58 ssd question

            not sure with the marvell ports

            could try it it will just bsod at windows splash screen if you can't,idk the reg tweak either for the marvell/ahci,its simple for the intel ports and no reinstall needed

            if you wanna stay on intel ports and run ahci mode,stay in ide mode and run this reg file,then restart into bios and set the INTEL sata ports to ahci mode,save/exit and boot into windows and that's it ahci mode without reinstalling

            Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
            Intel i7 3770k 24/[email protected] 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
            Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
            Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
            1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
            1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
            Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
            Razer Lycosa Keyboard
            Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
            Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
            K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
            L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
            Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
            Fractal Arc Midi Case

            http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
            http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

            Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
            Just Uploaded New Battlefield 4 Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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            • #7
              Re: X58 ssd question

              Cheers Wazza,

              Is there a recovery for the reg edit in case this goes south
              Last edited by Fawlty; 06-01-2013, 11:22 AM.
              Intel Core i7 930 Quad @ 3.5 GHz/Corsair H50 l Corsair Vengeance 12GB DDR3 | Gigabyte X58A-UD3R l Nvidia GTX 580 x 2sli | 2-1tb WD-BLK l Win7 pro 64 l Corsair HX 850 l Asus 27"1080p l CH-PT,FS,PP,TQ l TIR4w/TCP l G25 Racing Wheel

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              • #8
                Re: X58 ssd question

                yeah all it does is enable the install of the ahci drivers without reinstalling windows,it changes a 1 to a 0 in the registery,ill post how to reverse it





                How to enable AHCI in Windows 7 RC after installation

                |||




                AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) enables native command queuing and hot-plugging through SATA host controllers (Serial-ATA) for your hard drives. In many scenarios it enables more efficient multi-tasking. Vista was the first Windows OS to support AHCI out of the box, where as Windows 7 does the same. But an issue with AHCI is that if you install the OS without enabling AHCI in the BIOS, enabling it after installation will render your OS unusable. This is because Windows disable the AHCI driver since it is not needed during the installation.

                There is one way to fix this, although you need to have knowledge of registry editing. The detailed steps from Microsoft are as follows:

                To resolve this issue, enable the AHCI driver in the registry before you change the SATA mode of the boot drive. To do this, follow these steps:
                1.Exit all Windows-based programs.
                2.Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then press ENTER.
                3.If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
                4.Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
                HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesM sahci

                5.In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
                6.In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
                7.On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.

                After this you’ll have to restart your computer, go to BIOS and enable AHCI. When you log in to Windows again, you’ll notice the installation of drivers for AHCI. Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation.
                just put a 1 instead of 0 to reverse it

                ive used it many times,ahci is essential for ssd's,its probably why it was stuttering
                Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
                Intel i7 3770k 24/[email protected] 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
                Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
                Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
                1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
                1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
                Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
                Razer Lycosa Keyboard
                Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
                Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
                K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
                L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
                Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
                Fractal Arc Midi Case

                http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
                http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

                Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
                Just Uploaded New Battlefield 4 Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                • #9
                  Re: X58 ssd question

                  Thanks again,

                  Just remembered I can clone C drive to an external drive as well so, I've got it covered.

                  Now just need time to get after it.
                  Intel Core i7 930 Quad @ 3.5 GHz/Corsair H50 l Corsair Vengeance 12GB DDR3 | Gigabyte X58A-UD3R l Nvidia GTX 580 x 2sli | 2-1tb WD-BLK l Win7 pro 64 l Corsair HX 850 l Asus 27"1080p l CH-PT,FS,PP,TQ l TIR4w/TCP l G25 Racing Wheel

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                  • #10
                    Re: X58 ssd question

                    done it yet?
                    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
                    Intel i7 3770k 24/[email protected] 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
                    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
                    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
                    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
                    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
                    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
                    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
                    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
                    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
                    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
                    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
                    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
                    Fractal Arc Midi Case

                    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
                    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

                    Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
                    Just Uploaded New Battlefield 4 Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      Re: X58 ssd question

                      Originally posted by wazza300 View Post
                      done it yet?
                      Waaaay to busy in the garden and on such a lovely day.

                      And I've got to get ready for Arma3 coop tonight, great tactical sim
                      Last edited by Fawlty; 06-01-2013, 07:06 PM.
                      Intel Core i7 930 Quad @ 3.5 GHz/Corsair H50 l Corsair Vengeance 12GB DDR3 | Gigabyte X58A-UD3R l Nvidia GTX 580 x 2sli | 2-1tb WD-BLK l Win7 pro 64 l Corsair HX 850 l Asus 27"1080p l CH-PT,FS,PP,TQ l TIR4w/TCP l G25 Racing Wheel

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                      • #12
                        Re: X58 ssd question

                        changing the registry for the AHCI hack isn't going to cause you any issue, it's just a flag for windows when it starts to look for upgrades drivers when it doesn't find them installed already...

                        I had a system that I changed and it took me a few days to figure it out... all I did is restore the bios back to IDE and the system re-booted just fine...

                        Just a note, make sure you install the latest drivers for the chipset and the marvel controller because this trick only works if the driver is available in the system... if the drivers are not present (which happens on just a Windows install... it copies only the required drivers) you will get an 0x000000A7 (I think) BSOD...

                        if that happens go in the bios and change it back to IDE, reboot and install different drivers...

                        another possibility is to change the Registry, then the bios and pop in your Win7 install disk and perform a repair, have the drivers handy on a USB stick and then load in the storage drivers manually... that'll work too...

                        I've done it both ways and both worked fine, but just making sure you have the full driver pack installed before hand saved you a lot of trouble.

                        and SATA3 drives on the ICH10R controller in a RAID0 isn't that big of a bottleneck... yes you are not getting the 500mb/s per drive... but with 2-3 drives you can get 750mb/s+ on that controller....

                        It's the best on board controller out there that is only matched by $300+ dedicated RAID cards and they'll peak at 1GB/s as that is the top end that the PCIe lane can manage...

                        Vin
                        Main Rig
                        OS = Win10-64Bit
                        CPU = Ryzen 1700x Overclocked to 4Ghz with custom water-cooling loop
                        Mem = 16GB RAM @ 3200Mhz
                        MB = Asus ROG C6H
                        GPU = Asus 1080Ti ROG Strix
                        HD = 512GB M.2 Samsung 960 Pro
                        PSU = EVGA SuperNOVA 1300w
                        Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

                        HTPC / Home Server
                        OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2012 Virtual Machine with 12GB ram assigned for homer server
                        CPU = i7-980X @ 3.5Ghz CoolerMasster Hyper 212 Evo
                        Mem = 24GB RAM
                        MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios
                        GPU = EVGA nVidia GT210
                        HD = 2x PNY 120GB Raid 0 (OS)
                        Storage = 8TB WD Black Storage
                        PSU = Corsair TX750
                        Case = Define R5

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