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  • #61
    Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

    Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Well that's an odd way to test, how I mention using it now I mean. But since this is an odd issue, I'd go ahead and test any and all ways you can think of. I'd also test the cards for stability (With only one card installed and connect to the card) using afterburner or Furmark just to see if one of them act different than the other, or one gets much hotter than the other, ect

    And don't forget the single stick cold boot memory testing, as one iffy stick can cause any number of random issues on a cold boot, so I'd actually get started on that each morning with all other testing aside or in the afternoon/warm booting.
    I'll start the memory testing tonight. Do you suggest one graphics card, both, or none? Would you suggest using the x16 slot or x8 slot when I leave the graphics card in the system for the night?

    I've tested each graphics card with Furmark extensively when I was pushing the overclocking. Normally I don't run them overclocked at all and their temperatures are perfectly fine, not that I can see how it would make a difference at POST. I kind of suspect right now that the BIOS POST gets a bit unstable when the x8 slot is occupied. Back in the day before I had my 2nd crossfire card I used to run my only card in the x8 slot for better cooling.

    I wonder if the gigabyte BIOS creators haven't been able to replicate this problem because they use the built-in graphics when they do their testing. Maybe the instability requires a high-end external card to be present in addition to other factors, such as an excess of RAM. I do think that the gigabyte BIOS defaults to a QPI/PTT voltage that is too low by default, 1.05v.

    If it turns out that the board is unstable with the x8 slot occupied I'll probably just sell my cards and get the GTX 680.
    Last edited by allenwr1505; 03-23-2012, 04:44 PM.

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    • #62
      Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

      I'd stick with one card for now, where ever it seems to not give you issues.

      QPI/Vtt, that all depends on what memory you have installed, I'd say if it's not budget 1066-1333Mhz then yes, you probably need to increase QPI

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      • #63
        Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

        Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
        I'd stick with one card for now, where ever it seems to not give you issues.

        QPI/Vtt, that all depends on what memory you have installed, I'd say if it's not budget 1066-1333Mhz then yes, you probably need to increase QPI
        It's been about two days now and when I'm using my Sapphire 6950 unlocked I've never had a problem, even cold booting and using 16GB of RAM, but when I've used my MSI 6950 unlocked I've had several problems. This seems to be graphics card related, which is exceptionally odd.

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        • #64
          Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

          Great to hear you've narrowed it down some now!

          So maybe the MSI card is somehow damaged, or their is a BIOS incompatibility. If it's a BIOS issue they'll need to know the exact card model so they can try to replicate and then correct.

          Do you know anyone close to you that has the same card? That way you could verify if it's your particular card that's causing this, or the model as a whole.

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          • #65
            Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

            Originally posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
            Great to hear you've narrowed it down some now!

            So maybe the MSI card is somehow damaged, or their is a BIOS incompatibility. If it's a BIOS issue they'll need to know the exact card model so they can try to replicate and then correct.

            Do you know anyone close to you that has the same card? That way you could verify if it's your particular card that's causing this, or the model as a whole.
            I really doubt the MSI card is damaged as it runs perfectly fine in Windows, can game, can overclock, everything. It's not like the graphics card should even be involved in the POST process. Anyways, I've been running with just my Sapphire 6950 for the last few days and everything has been completely stable. The F7 BIOS must have done something because on my old board, even with my Sapphire 6950 I still had boot loops. When the F7 BIOS came out I was already Crossfired so I never tried F7 with just my Sapphire 6950 until now.

            Unfortunately, I know no one with a card that I can try.

            I will sell both of my graphics cards and move on to a 7970 or Nvidia 680 since I suspect this board just has crossfire issues and I would like a single card solution that can handle eyefinity.

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            • #66
              Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

              It's probably not as you mentioned, maybe a BIOS incompatibility? You can send in a report and ask them to try to test with the same exact card and see if they can fix it in the BIOS.

              Single card upgrade sounds like a good move if you already have the spare $$!

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              • #67
                Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                Hi all,

                First off here are my hardware specs:

                - I7 2600k on a Z68-UD7 (CPU water)
                - gainward gtx 570 phantom (water)
                -2 x 4gb corsair vengeance 1866 @ 9-10-9-27-1T
                - 120gb vertex 3
                - 1 tb Samsung spin point F3
                - corsair Ax 850 psu
                - creative titanium hd sound card

                CPU temp after 1 day of folding = 60c
                Gpu temp = 43c

                I have this annoying boot issue when overclocked.

                When my CPU is @ 4.8ghz (2600k) it's fully stable for 48hours On prime 95 and can fold for days on end.

                Settings are 1.375 with LLC7 so on load I get 1.392vcore.

                It's all good when the rig is on. But when i switch the rig on (btw its still plugged in and has power running through it, the Rig is just switched off) it would get stuck on C1 (led poster) and flicker a few times then reboot, it does this a few times the. Eventually loads up with the OC settings still in place.

                The CPU is watercooled and on boot up it would sit at ~29c idle and 60c on load (after a few hours of stress).

                I have the F10 bios btw and on the backed up bios

                I have replaced all my previous corsair dominators===stil no fix

                Can anybody help me on this?

                It happens EVERY time I boot up and the OC never fails...

                Thanks

                Firat
                Last edited by Firat; 04-08-2012, 07:29 AM.

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                • #68
                  Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                  It's best to put your hardware list in your forum signature where we can quickly see exactly what we're dealing with.
                  Keep in mind that most of the active members responding to your post are also assisting in many other threads where the OP has a somewhat similar hardware setup. This will help prevent possible mistakes.
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                  • #69
                    Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                    Okie dokie, I'll get that done in a minute :)

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                    • #70
                      Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                      Signature done, so did the OP problem get fixed?
                      Last edited by Firat; 04-08-2012, 07:36 AM.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                        Originally posted by Firat View Post
                        Signature done, so did the OP problem get fixed?
                        I got the problem fixed. It turned out that my board really just disliked my MSI 6950. The MSI worked on other boards but with the Gigabyte it boot looped at POST. I sold my 6950's and bought a 7970 and I've had no problems since.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                          I have a gtx570, so your saying that could be the problem, hmmm but why isn't there another solution except changing out my Gpu, I can't afford to do this :/

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                          • #73
                            Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                            Originally posted by Firat View Post
                            Signature done, so did the OP problem get fixed?
                            Nope. I struggled for a long time with the issue and by now, I've entirely given up on trying to resolve it. I've tried numerous bios updates, different video cards, memory modules, CPU, etc. I have the boot cycle minimized now with one of the newer BIOS updates, but it will still do it 1 out of like 5 cold startups - which is light years better. But honestly... it shouldn't be doing it at all.

                            Unfortunately, I'm still getting random freezing in firefox that eventually locks the PC up on occasion. I built the PC for gaming and providing i'm in a game with firefox closed, it seldom locks up. I buy lots of parts, and I will NEVER buy another Gigabyte product in my life. I have been so entirely unimpressed with the lackluster support and non-reply to my emails to support, that I can't believe the company conducts itself in this manner.

                            I've had build issues with sketchy hardware in the past, and being in this industry, myself, I come to expect problems now and then with such rapidly changing technology - it comes with the territory when you have such little time for real testing. I'm willing to accept problems - but I also expect a product that works 100% when I pay for it - and if it doesn't apologize and give me a like / better model than what I had that WORKS.

                            So like I said, I still have the issues, its been months, and I'm not buying another Gigabyte product. If someone from Gigabyte customer service would like to contact me, I'd be more than happy to have a conversation.

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                            • #74
                              Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                              spurst what qpi/vtt and dram voltages are you using atm? sorry if im treading old ground,random lock ups and cold boots are usually down to those voltages
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                              • #75
                                Re: Can we get an official response from Gigabyte regarding cold boot loop problem hitting the P67 / Z68 boards??

                                Originally posted by wazza300 View Post
                                spurst what qpi/vtt and dram voltages are you using atm? sorry if im treading old ground,random lock ups and cold boots are usually down to those voltages
                                Wazza300,

                                not to beat a dead horse, but i've long since given up on trying to resolve the issue. I've tried messing with nearly every setting on the board, multiple modules of ram, different CPU's video cards, etc. I've tried everything different, except for this board. I've gotten it about as stable as I'm able to. For anything else I need to have absolute reliability on, I have an i7 laptop I use or one of my other desktops.

                                if it helps anyone else, I'm at:
                                QPI = 1.205
                                DRAM = 1.640

                                but I'm clocked at 4600.

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