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**dtenney** · 09-24-2010, 11:02 AM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

Okay, further testing has shown on the first cold boot the computer will crash like someone pulled the power cord with the 1 TB HDD plugged in or unplugged.
I can open my computer and resource monitor fine, but when I click on Google Chrome it instantly dies.
2nd boot the computer works perfect.

-David

**sin0822** · 09-24-2010, 11:31 AM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

which controller are the drives on? what config? ahci? ide? your not on the sata3 right?

btw what state are you in? im currently at work in gainsville,va

**dtenney** · 09-24-2010, 11:59 AM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

Originally posted by sin0822 View Post

which controller are the drives on? what config? ahci? ide? your not on the sata3 right?

btw what state are you in? im currently at work in gainsville,va

Away from computer until Monday morning. I know it is on IDE. The SATA 3 ports are connected to the external hard drive dock station on top of the coolermaster case only.

In gainesville, Florida

Will post a complete breakdown on connections on Monday at the latest.

**wazza300** · 09-24-2010, 02:53 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

A-DATA DDR3-1600G, CL: 9-9-9-24, Voltage 1.55v~1.75V
^^^ this doesnt look right even for stock clocks imo,whats the ram voltage rated at? 1.5? or 1.65? if dram is 1.65 set to 1.66 in the bios and qpi/vtt looks too low aswell id set that to atleast 1.30000v,it might helps fix the lock ups when its cold

sorry im confused about 1.55v-1.75v 1.75v for dram is way too much,1.66v is the limit

**dtenney** · 09-24-2010, 03:13 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

Originally posted by wazza300 View Post

A-DATA DDR3-1600G, CL: 9-9-9-24, Voltage 1.55v~1.75V
^^^ this doesnt look right even for stock clocks imo,whats the ram voltage rated at? 1.5? or 1.65? if dram is 1.65 set to 1.66 in the bios and qpi/vtt looks too low aswell id set that to atleast 1.30000v,it might helps fix the lock ups when its cold

sorry im confused about 1.55v-1.75v 1.75v for dram is way too much,1.66v is the limit

The 1.55-1.75V is printed on sticker attached to each stick of RAM. The bios optimized defaults I started at were 1.5V settings, today I was running 1.66V. Although I did not change the qpi/vtt, that could also be worth a try.

**wazza300** · 09-24-2010, 03:54 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

check the qpi/vtt voltage,if its less than 1.3v then i would set it to that and see if it improves anything,but you will get random lock ups like you discribe if its too low

**dtenney** · 09-25-2010, 10:03 AM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

Originally posted by wazza300 View Post

check the qpi/vtt voltage,if its less than 1.3v then i would set it to that and see if it improves anything,but you will get random lock ups like you discribe if its too low

The qpi/vtt voltage is stock setting running optimized defaults in fc1 bios, which I think was 1.175 volts from memory. Will give a setting above 1.3v a try on monday morning. Thanks

**dtenney** · 09-26-2010, 06:07 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

Tried the setting below, still get the cold boot complete power down after logging into windows when I click a program to start:

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
Uncore Frequency .......................... 3200 MHz
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Auto]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133 MHz
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12.0]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
Cas Latency Time........................9
tRCD....................................9
tRP.....................................9
tRAS...................................24

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................[AUTO]
tRRD .......................................[AUTO]
tWTR ......................................[AUTO]
tWR ........................................[AUTO]
tWTP .......................................[AUTO]
tWL ........................................[AUTO]
tRFC .......................................[AUTO]
tRTP .......................................[AUTO]
tFAW ......................................[AUTO]
Command Rate (CMD) ................1

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................[AUTO]

B2B CAS Delay ..........................[AUTO]

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]
CPU Vcore ...............................[Auto]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.315V
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... 1.8V [Auto]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... 1.5V [Auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... [Auto]
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... [Auto]
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... 1.5V [Auto]
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ 1.1V [Auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.66V
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

**dtenney** · 09-26-2010, 06:30 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

Originally posted by sin0822 View Post

which controller are the drives on? what config? ahci? ide? your not on the sata3 right?

Intel controller
SATA2_0 - SSD drive (Windows 7 Pro 64bit)
SATA2_1 - Sony DVD
SATA2_2 - Empty
SATA2_3 - Empty
SATA2_4 - Empty
SATA2_5 - Empty

Marvell controller
SATA3_6 - WD 1TB storage drive SATA3, 6 GB/s, 7200rpm
SATA3_7 - Empty
SATA3_8 - eSATA port on top of CM case
SATA3_9 - eSATA port on top of CM case

IDE config, although I would like to change to AHCI config because I think the SSD drive would perform better

**wazza300** · 09-26-2010, 07:09 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

did you set dram to 1.66 not auto? if you want to use ahci then follow this reg tweak guide,it works as ive changed mine this way,just boot up into windows in ide and make the changes then reboot and enter bios and set to ahci/save/exit then boot into windows and it will load the ahci drivers for you and thats it

To do this, follow these steps:
Exit all Windows-based programs.
Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then press ENTER.
If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
Locate and then click the following registry subkey: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesM sahci

In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
After this you’ll have to restart your computer, go to BIOS and enable AHCI. When you log in to Windows again, you’ll notice the installation of drivers for AHCI. Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation.

i would leave all the advanced memory timings on auto for now
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... 1.22V
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... 1.2V
^^ try with those on auto too,if its still locking up on cold boots maybe try with a 21x cpu multiplier and see if it has any affect

**ROSESTEEL** · 09-26-2010, 07:20 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

I've been wondering, is it still impermissable to connect your SSD OS drive to the SATA 6.0 port? After all, it is your SSD, not your WD SATA 6.0 drive, which actually would see a significantly greater improvement in performance.

**ROSESTEEL** · 09-26-2010, 07:33 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

Also, I see that you have the same board I do--X58A-UD3R rev.2.0. Do you really only have 9 drive ports? And it's pretty interesting that Cyberpower offers a BIOS revision FC1. The latest revision for folks like me who bought the board off the shelf is FB.

**wazza300** · 09-26-2010, 07:37 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

no point putting ssd on 6gb ports if its not a 6gb ssd,those ports are less stable anyway than the intel ones due to poor drivers,put your ssd on port0 as you want that to be the first port the bios detects,put 6gb hdd on nearest 6gb port and any sata dvd drives on port 4/5

**dtenney** · 09-26-2010, 07:57 PM

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R - SSD + HDD - cold boot issues

DRAM was and is set to 1.66V, sorry for the confusion with AUTO
Changed the QPI PLL, IOH Core, and Advanced memory setting back to AUTO
=> Will update the post earlier to reflect the changes to made

Made the change to AHCI, went smoothly following directions above. Windows experience score improved from 7.1 to 7.5 for the hard drive.

10 ports, that was another mistake, will correct that post as well.

The FC1 bios came from http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...test-bios.html

Still waiting on the computer to cool enough to try another cold boot test.

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