EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

[Acebmxer]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

hmm this is weird. I would wait untill LSD gets on and reads the post he might have some further info on this. I would try going into my raid bios to see if there was anything that you may have missed but I cant with out deleting my array which aint gonna happen sorry buddy . But I can tell you it was pretty straight forward. I was just looking through the manual on my board and couldnt find anything. The only thing i see mentioned in there about vista 32 bit or 64 bit is under Power management HPET Suport and HPET Mode set to 32 or 64 depending on which version you are using but i have seen no difference and dont know what it does.

[Acebmxer]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

You guys did some posting while i was writing mine. Still I dont think this should be a problem b/c the bios is not seeing the drives after he creates a array There is no partion on the drives yet.


If you want to have 1 stand alone drive and the other drives in a raid 5 put the stand alone on port 0 of the yellow and the rest right after in port 1-4. Or you could but the OS drive on port 0 on the purple controller and your other drives on port0-3 on the yellow controller.

[Chike]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

Not saying I am necessarily right, but 2 drives RAID0 > 2TB unbootable, 3 drives RAID5 > 2TB unbootable, 2 drives RAID1 < 2TB bootable, what would you think as first pssible cause?

[Acebmxer]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

yeah I guess you could be right. I havent tried searching google yet.

[Chike]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

There an explaination at Master boot record - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

@shredz
Have you tried, if it is possible, to create a smaller partion(s) and try installing Vista?

[shredz]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

chike...
no I havent tried smaller part. but after reading about mbr Im pretty sure it would work...

now I have some decisions to make...I bought a new motherboard that would do RAID5 thinking my highpoint card didnt like 2008 server...now finding its the raid size thats the problem...shoot I dont want to rip this all apart AGAIN! decisions, decisions....

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

I cant with out deleting my array which aint gonna happen sorry buddy . .

What do you mean by that? You should be able to go into your RAID BIOS anytime you like and look around

All looks normal to me, 2.6-2.7GB is what you would get when using 3x 1.5T drives in RAID 5.



Here is a RAID Calculator >>
RaidCalc - Raid Disk Space Utilization Calculator - Raid, RAID, Redundancy, Performance - iBeast Business Solutions

As for Bootable on the RAID/IRQ Screen, that will always say NO until you install an OS

Lets try this, please go back to an older BIOS, one without XHD Settings as this may be what it causing you issues. I am not sure which those are though, sorry, just try a few older versions until you find the latest without it. Shouldn't be too far back as they just added this in the past month or so.

Then all should be fine, and you should find your array listed in the Hard Disk Boot Priority section and be able to move it to the top, install your OS, then on reboot the Bootable thing will say Yes

[Acebmxer]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

I did look in the raid bios but I didnt want to take the chance of deleting the array and recreate it and risk losing my data.

After updating to F10f from F10e they have added the XHD raid and my drivers not not say bootable or not but my OS is installed on stand alone drive.

I think is problem is that when he is using 3 drives i think in Raid 5 they are not showing up in boot priority but if he uses 2 drives in raid 0 it does. shredz correct me if I am not correct on that.

One of there thing I dont believe its your problem but just double check to make sure there is no jumper on the back of the drives. If there is remove it.

[Chike]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

tried doing RAID0 with 2 drives...still not bootable, and the 3rd drive showed up under boot order.
tried all 3 w/ RAID0...still not bootable, nothing under boot order except 'add-in card'.
next? :(

hey something different...
selected RAID1 w/ 2 drives and now its bootable...

Does the RAID utility create any partition on a newly created RAID?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

Ohh, ya you can't do that!

I am thinking the XHD may be a cause of these issues, hopefully he will try a BIOS without this setting to see about that.

2 or 3 drives, ether way it should show up in Boot Priority Menu which makes me think maybe if it is due to XHD than this XHD BIOS still has some issues. I know they pulled it a few times and have added it back a few, maybe just no one had tested it in this manner yet.

[shredz]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

I did say earlier I went back to F9 (no XHD) and had same problem...
I googled what chike brought up about not booting above 2TB and found the MBR limitation. I believe that is the root to my problems....u just cant boot from a partition larger than 2TB.

[Ickk]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

having a disk size greater than 2 tib will not stop the Operating system writing a Master Boot Record and installing ...

GUID Partition Table - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quote:
"If the disk is larger than two tebibytes (the maximum partition size in the legacy MBR), the size of this partition is marked as 2 TiB, ignoring the rest of disk."

looks like you will have to re-partition your raid array.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EP45-UD3R v.1.1 need help with 64bit and RAID

If you believe this to be the issue you can use several tools to format the disk before trying to install. I am not sure how computer savvy you are, so I would need to know if you feel comfortable using DOS or would you need a floppy or ISO with a program to format with?

Or you could just create an array under 2T to see if this is the issue or not, then redo things after that if you find it to be the cause.

Delete the array you have created and make a new one of 1T and leave the rest of the space unused and see if you can then install. If all goes well and you need help formatting the drive to be under 2T let me know

Or.... You can convert to GPT disks if you like, here is some information on that >>
partitions greater than 2 TB

And some overall information on both GPT and 2T limit altogether (I am still unsure if this applies to x64, seems like I see contradicting info? Anyway... Blah Blah Blah, hope this helps!!)
CarltonBale.com How to Break the 2TB (2 TeraByte) File System Limit

You cannot install or start Windows Vista when the volume of the system partition is larger than 2 terabytes

Make the most of large drives with GPT and Linux

2TB Limit

2048.00 GB Vista x64 LIMIT - XtremeSystems Forums