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  • #16
    Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

    Originally posted by profJim View Post
    NORMAL is NOT recommended at all, use AUTO for the bios settings that you're not setting.

    Did you load OPTIMIZED bios settings before making any bios changes?

    Add your hardware list to your forum signature, including:
    1) motherboard and bios versions
    2) memory module model # and link to your ram's specifications
    3) psu model # and wattage rating
    4) etc

    Cpu Termination is too high, 1.20 - 1.22 should be fine.
    MCH Core = 1.24 - 1.26 should work.
    Static tRead Value = 9 (for now) will give you better memory performance.

    Memory tweaking should wait until your system has passed extended stability testing. Leave the Advanced Timing Control settings on AUTO for now.

    This post has recommended initial bios settings and additional recommendations.
    Post your updated bios settings and testing/stability results for additional suggestions.

    hey thanks for setting me straight on setting my voltages to auto not normal. i took your advice myself and im finally stable at 3.08 ghz instead of 4.2 like i was.
    so how far are you overclocked on your q9650?

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    • #17
      Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

      hey thanks for setting me straight on setting my voltages to auto not normal. i took your advice myself and im finally stable .....
      We're concerned with getting systems stable, we don't deal with owner stability.

      Have you run multiple extended stability tests with Prime95 or OCCT? What are your cpu temperatures when running under full load?

      Getting to 3.9 - 4.0GHz for the Q9550/Q9650 isn't too difficult. It gets a lot harder trying to get your system stable at 4.1GHz or higher.

      Post your current (3.80GHz?) stable settings and we can help you with a higher stable overclock.
      Please include a screen-shot with:
      Memset using the SPD and ">>" tabs
      cpu-z main screen
      EasyTune6 --> TUNER tab --> ADVANCE tab --> VOLTAGE tab
      Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
      P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
      4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
      MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
      Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
      WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
      Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
      SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
      Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
      Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
      Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
      MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
      Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
      win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
      HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
      CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
      E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
      Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
      Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
      HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
      win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
      .

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      • #18
        Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

        Attn; ProdJim

        My condolences on your little insecurity issue there , I did not realize 1; the mouse in your pocket. 2; that this is your forum. I'll leave now

        glad i could help you feel better about yourself
        Last edited by Darcon; 09-07-2009, 10:48 PM.

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        • #19
          Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

          @Darcon,
          Sorry you misunderstood my humor.
          You can get some excellent help in the forum.
          Don't worry, I won't respond to any of your posts in the future.
          Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
          P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
          4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
          MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
          Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
          WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
          Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
          SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
          Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
          Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
          Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
          MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
          Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
          HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
          CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
          E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
          Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
          Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
          HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
          win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
          .

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          • #20
            Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

            What happened now?

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            • #21
              Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
              Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
              P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
              Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
              TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
              2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
              2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
              Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
              Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
              WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
              Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
              Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
              3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
              Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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              • #22
                Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

                Ahh, well I could not tell and the post had been edited so not sure if something was changed, or I was just not seeing the issue (If any?) Looked like he thanked him one post before and said how he helped him get stable before his other comment.

                I agree with you on your thoughts on Auto/Normal, it's never advised (By Me anyway-even at stock) and why pay $100's for a board to let it decide what may or may not be correct per your hardware. Dell's/HP's are for that. I do realize many users may think that is ok or correct though, and I do not blame them really as a lot of people have been told/taught that if you are not overclocking or even if you are auto/normal will be fine on many things.

                The sad truth to that is, many users who are using Auto/Normal even at stock will have issues until there settings are properly adjusted and tested per their hardware.

                I did not see any issues with anything said in this thread, so I am not sure what upset him unless there was discussions via PM or another forum/thread?

                I suppose you just have to post and move on sometimes.....

                Thanks from me to both of you, as always, for ALL YOUR HELP HERE!!

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                • #23
                  Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

                  [QUOTE=Lsdmeasap;318736
                  I suppose you just have to post and move on sometimes.....

                  Thanks from me to both of you, as always, for ALL YOUR HELP HERE!![/QUOTE]

                  The funny thing about auto or normal or what specific voltage with CPU isn't mentioned in what for manual you come across the net or the manual in the box for that matter.

                  Despite I'm asking for tips it doesn't mean we don't have a technical background.
                  I'm for one glad that their are helping people out there to share knowledge but you always have to verify if it's correct ;-)
                  I don't see it's as a contest and you always have to re-read a topic because people are coming from different backgrounds and countries.
                  (Even in this topic some are asking for the information already provide ;-))
                  Sometimes it's difficult to type and translate your exact thoughts in a foreign language...

                  So I would like to thank all that contributed in here for the help offered really appreciated.
                  Currently running at 3.8 stable 24/7 would love to go at 4.0 ghz but I'm concerned about the temps and the strain on this particular CPU.

                  Again thank you all
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                  GA-EP45-DS3P rev 1.0 - F7
                  Q9650 yorkfield E0 @ 3.79 ghz
                  OCZ HPC reaper PC2-8500 2 x 2 gb (OCZ2RPR10664GK (2,1 V - 5-5-5-18)
                  Corsair PSU CMPSU-620HX - 620W
                  Scythe "infinity/mugen" 5 heat pipes 120 cfm
                  EVGA GTX260 super clocked edition 896mb ddr3
                  Case Antec P182 120 cfm *5

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                  • #24
                    Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

                    I agree. Anything posted on an internet forum is open to interpretation due to lack of face-to-face conversation. No way of seeing facial expressions or hearing the tone of someones voice can mean emotion and intent are hard to express.

                    I bear no ill will to anyone that takes something the wrong way, it just angers me at times that some people seem to presume the worst possible meaning of things. profJim, as most can see was simply posting some helpful info. He's posted that message countless times when helping people with voltage choices. He's much more organised than me. I should really write up some general templates to add to for some answers but I'm not that efficient.

                    I'm glad you have 3.8GHz nice and stable. If you were to post a re-cap of your current settings along with load temperatures using both Prime95 and IBT I'm sure we can try and get you to the magic 4GHz.

                    CPU voltages are hard to include in user manual etc because each CPU that comes off the production line is individually tested and assigned it's own VID (Voltage ID). So two identical chips cut from the same silicon, maybe side by side can possibly have very different stock voltages. One may have a 1.20V VID and another may have a 1.2625V VID for example. This usually means that a CPU with al low VID could be stable at the same clocks as a higher VID chip, with a little less voltage. This isn't always the case though. Also it's been noted on many occasions that some chips that are stable on really low voltages at high clocks still get rather warm, sometimes warmer than you'd think for the voltages applied.

                    As you may know, DTS sensor readings aren't the most accurate things in the world, but they are a good guide. My personal absolute limit under full prime load is 70c but I'm much happier at 65c or under, just personal preference. I can replace the CPU if it goes belly up as it's only a cheap E&xxx. if you are nervous about how long your CPU will last, adjust your comfort zone accordingly. The odds are that the CPU will out live its usefulness and be replaced long long before it dies anyway. This has been the case for every CPU I've ever owned. My last CPU was a X2 3800+ and has been running at ~1.6V (VID is 1.35-1.4V) and 2.5GHz+ for three years and is still going strong.

                    If you do want to try for 4GHz, then just let us know.
                    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
                    Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
                    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
                    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
                    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
                    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
                    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
                    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
                    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
                    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
                    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
                    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
                    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
                    Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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