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  • #46
    Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    With highset being the worse, am I understanding correctly?
    It's a pitty you haven't done it with 333FSB @ 3GHz, we would have a ground for comparison.
    BTW one good reason I can think of for safety margin is fall in power voltage as result of lightening e.g., it will only cause a small drop in VDIMM and MCH Core, but may be enough to cause memory data corruption with lower tRFC.

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    • #47
      Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

      is memory data corruption temporary or what, theres a storm here now lol

      also tomorrow im getting a zalman fan could i ask for help with ocing the cpu in the same thread here?
      Last edited by milkman6453; 07-26-2009, 04:20 PM.
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      • #48
        Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

        Yes, the lower the time the better.

        I used stock to make it a fair test. As you have DDR3, my results wouldn't be directly comparable to yours as I'm running DDR2.

        There wouldn't be any significant VDIMM drop that would cause instability as the board regulates this extremely well. In the event of a power surge or lightning strike big enough to effect those voltages it's likely that the PC would crash regardless of settings.

        RAM data corruption is temporary. It CAN however result in corrupt data being written to the hard drive, which can cause data loss. This is why backing up important files is a must before you start overclocking, followed by a thorough stress test after to verify stability.
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        • #49
          Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

          Originally posted by milkman6453 View Post
          is memory data corruption temporary or what, theres a storm here now lol
          Originally posted by Psycho101 View Post
          RAM data corruption is temporary. It CAN however result in corrupt data being written to the hard drive, which can cause data loss. This is why backing up important files is a must before you start overclocking, followed by a thorough stress test after to verify stability.
          Yeah, dosn't mean the RAM is fried, and that's one reason Windows shuts into the BSOD or restarts if it's diabled when detecting possible memory corruption, to prevent such possible corruption on the disk.
          Last edited by Chike; 07-27-2009, 10:34 AM.

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          • #50
            Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

            Ha that was fun i got my zalman 9700nt in place, also one synthe fan, the screws that came with them dont really work lol. So im going to wait to get some foam tape to secure them in.

            So i guess im ready to do some overclocking where do i start?
            GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
            Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
            Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
            G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
            EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
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            • #51
              Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

              Originally posted by milkman6453 View Post
              Ha that was fun i got my zalman 9700nt in place, also one synthe fan, the screws that came with them dont really work lol. So im going to wait to get some foam tape to secure them in.

              So i guess im ready to do some overclocking where do i start?
              I see the HS retention kit is the same I had with CNPS8700 which I immediatly broke the little L piece that locks it and had to improvise a substitute from a paper clip. I had no problem with the screws though.

              Save the settings and make somebaseline benchmark.
              I think 400FSB would be just right to begin with.
              Before you change it, set all voltages except references manually to their suggested values (those you haven't changed yet) or the target values in EasyTyne that should be the same. Also set PCI Erxpress frequency to 100.
              Set 400FSB with low CPU Ratio, even underclocking the CPU to get stable memory settings. Select new memory multiplier. Static tRead increase is probably needed, and maybe more MCH Core, what's it's value now?
              Sometimes 400FSB does not work, you can try 401/399 unstead.
              When memory is stable you can increase CPU Ratio that would likely need more VCore.
              Keep an eye on temps.

              Oh and post some settings to refresh our memory.

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              • #52
                Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

                I didnt use the L retention peice i used the one that just lays of the middle of the HS and screws into the black plastic two screws and one metal peice, seems like it would be very hard to break it haha. I think i know what peice your talking about i was worried why i had an extra 2 metal parts haha


                ill attempt 400FSB in a few minutes


                Code:
                CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
                Motherboard = GA-EP45T-UD3LR 
                BIOS Version = F5	
                Ram = G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK
                
                MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
                Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
                CPU Clock Ratio .............................: 9x (default 8x - down clocked cpu)
                Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0.0
                CPU Frequency ..............................:3.00 GHz (333 x 9) 
                
                
                Clock Chip Control 
                Standard Clock Control
                CPU Host Clock Control..................: Disabled
                CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
                PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto 
                
                
                DRAM Performance Control
                Performance Enhance...................: Profile1
                (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............:Auto
                System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
                Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
                DRAM Timing Selectable ................:Auto
                
                Standard Timing Control
                CAS Latency Time........................:7		All on Auto	
                tRCD .............................................:6	
                tRP.................................................:6  
                tRAS..............................................:17
                
                
                Advanced Timing Control
                tRRD...........................................:4 	All on auto  
                tWTR...........................................:5  		
                tWR............................................:10  
                tRFC...........................................:60  
                tRTP...........................................:5
                Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2t
                
                
                Channel A
                Static tRead Value.........................:7
                Channel B
                Static tRead Value.........................:7
                
                
                Motherboard Voltage Control
                CPU
                CPU Vcore….………................................: 1.265
                CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............:   1.200V
                CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:      		1.500v
                CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...........:
                
                MCH/ICH
                MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: set to 1.2
                MCH Reference….…….0.800V............: 0.760
                MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............:missing?
                ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:1.550v
                ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........:1.1v
                
                DRAM
                DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:1.6
                DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:0.750
                Channel A Reference 0.900V............:missing
                Channel B Reference 0.900V............:missing
                Last edited by milkman6453; 07-27-2009, 06:13 PM.
                GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
                Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
                Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
                G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
                EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
                OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2
                ViewSonic vx2265wm @1680x1050 120Hz

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                • #53
                  Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

                  Originally posted by milkman6453 View Post
                  I didnt use the L retention peice i used the one that just lays of the middle of the HS and screws into the black plastic two screws and one metal peice, seems like it would be very hard to break it haha. I think i know what peice your talking about i was worried why i had an extra 2 metal parts haha
                  I did not have that option. It was an "OEM" package, this probably "fell out the box" LOL or this HS don't have this option.
                  Last edited by Chike; 07-28-2009, 06:24 AM. Reason: typos

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                  • #54
                    Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

                    can i splice two fans onto one fan header, only one of the sys_fan headers have speed control so my case gets extremly loud when i plug my other one in.
                    Yes im taking the OCing very slow sorry
                    GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
                    Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
                    Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
                    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
                    EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
                    OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2
                    ViewSonic vx2265wm @1680x1050 120Hz

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                    • #55
                      Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

                      Personally I wouldn't recommend connecting more than one fan per header. For any extra fans, the ideal solution is an adapter to connect them to a 4 pin molex PSU connector. You can buy ones with three outputs on the same adapter, a 12V plug a 7V plug (using 12V as positive and 5V as ground, 12V - 5V = 7V) and 5V. You can also buy various in line resistors to use in conjunction with a normal 12V molex adapter. 9V, 7V and 5V are common choices.

                      Running a fan on 7V can reduce noise dramatically, while still maintaining decent air flow.
                      Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
                      Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
                      P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
                      Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
                      TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
                      2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
                      2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
                      Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
                      Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
                      WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
                      Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
                      Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
                      3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
                      Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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                      • #56
                        Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

                        is there anyway to lower the speed without purchasing anything?
                        GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
                        Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
                        Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
                        G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
                        EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
                        OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2
                        ViewSonic vx2265wm @1680x1050 120Hz

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                        • #57
                          Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

                          No. I certainly wouldn't recommend you splice wires tc.

                          The adapters we're talking about cost a couple of pounds/dollars, they're not expensive. Try somewhere like Radioshack/Maplins or an online specialist.
                          Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
                          Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
                          P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
                          Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
                          TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
                          2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
                          2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
                          Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
                          Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
                          WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
                          Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
                          Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
                          3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
                          Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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