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  • Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

    My computer keeps on failing MemTest when I use slots 1 & 3 so I decided to move my RAM to slots 2 & 4. After using slots 3 & 4, my computer has passed the MemTest. I am wondering what could cause my RAM to fail the MemTest in slots 2 & 4.

    Specs:
    E8400
    Gigabyte EP45-DS3L
    OCZ 2 X 2GB DDR2
    EVGA 9800GX2
    Corsair TX750

    BIOS:
    Award Software International, Inc. F3, 28/05/2008
    Gigabyte EP45-DS3L F10 BIOS
    E8400 @ 3Ghz
    OCZ 2 X 2Gb DDR2 1066
    EVGA 9800GX2
    Corsair TX750

  • #2
    Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

    You may have a faulty motherboard. It's possible that the slots themselves, or indeed any other component on the memory sub-system is faulty.

    To trouble shoot further, you may want to try using a single stick and test all 4 slots one by one. You could find that slots 1 and 3 are OK when used individually but fail in dual channel. You could also find that one or both slots fail individually. the latter definitely confirms a hardware fault, and the first is 99.9% sure to indicate the same.

    As always, check that there is no dust etc in slots 1 & 3. Also try fully inserting and removing the modules 3-4 times. This should clean any contaminates off the socket contacts if they were soiled in any way. Use a soft brush, compressed air or simply blow in the RAM sockets. Don't use a vacuum cleaner as the suction has been known to generate static (so I've been told), and be careful if using plastic bristled brushes as these too can generate static. A Horse hair paintbrush is an ideal motherboard cleaner, avainable from an arts and crafts shop.
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    • #3
      Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

      Earlier today I tested my memory slots individually with a single stick of RAM. All four of my memory slots passed MemTest. However, once I use slots 1 and 3, MemTest fails. I also did clean our my memory slots with compressed air.

      Is it safe to conclude that there is something wrong with my motherboard? Is there some sort of software to confirm this?
      Gigabyte EP45-DS3L F10 BIOS
      E8400 @ 3Ghz
      OCZ 2 X 2Gb DDR2 1066
      EVGA 9800GX2
      Corsair TX750

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      • #4
        Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

        There's nothing you can run to diagnose the slots themselves without modules in them. With modules installed it will merely test the RAm's functionality. If it were possible to boot with 1&3 populated, you could test, but as it's a no go and the RA functions in the other slots I'd say it's time to RMA unfortunately.

        You could always RMA the RAM as well as the board to 100% eliminate any problems, but if it works in the other slots I'd say it's fine.
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        • #5
          Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

          It could also always just be incorrect settings, especially since all slots are passing when tested one by one.

          I'd advise you to first update the BIOS to the latest and see if things are better. If they are not you should ask us for some settings to try before thinking about RMA'n the board

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          • #6
            Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

            I have updated my BIOS and ran MemTest. Slots 1 & 3 passed twice. I am curious as to how updating my BIOS will help fix my MemTest problem. In addition, I am wondering what is the proper configuration I should have in my BIOS? I have left everything default except:

            Load from my DVD-ROM first
            Changed my RAM voltage to 2.1 (to match RAM manufacturer specifications)
            Have an alarm when CPU temperature reaches 70*C
            Gigabyte EP45-DS3L F10 BIOS
            E8400 @ 3Ghz
            OCZ 2 X 2Gb DDR2 1066
            EVGA 9800GX2
            Corsair TX750

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            • #7
              Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

              Originally posted by icu222much View Post
              I have updated my BIOS and ran MemTest. Slots 1 & 3 passed twice. I am curious as to how updating my BIOS will help fix my MemTest problem. In addition, I am wondering what is the proper configuration I should have in my BIOS? I have left everything default except:

              Load from my DVD-ROM first
              Changed my RAM voltage to 2.1 (to match RAM manufacturer specifications)
              Have an alarm when CPU temperature reaches 70*C
              What is giving you the alarm? If it's EeasyTune that's very very bad, if not what software does it or is it the BIOS? Is it at idle or under load?

              When you say all left on default, do you mean you load optimized defaults after flash or you just left them as they were?

              Post your BIOS settings and maybe if your computer don't heat too much when doing it post a screen capture as explained in this post.

              P.S. If you seek help it is reccomended that you have your system spec in your signature otherwise no one knows what it is all about.
              Last edited by Chike; 07-17-2009, 06:04 PM. Reason: P.S.

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              • #8
                Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                I can't say for certain, but I think icu222much is saying that he has set a custom alarm for a 70c CPU temp, not that he's having the alarm go off.

                Posting a full BIOS template is an excellent idea. I can't find one for the EP45-DS3L, so you may have to make one yourself and fill it in, unless anyone else has one they've already done, and can post it for you.
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                • #9
                  Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                  [QUOTE=Psycho101;308136]I can't say for certain, but I think icu222much is saying that he has set a custom alarm for a 70c CPU temp, not that he's having the alarm go off.[QUOTE]
                  Oh right, the alarm settings in BIOS, still a bit too high for my taste, I'd set it 65 or below. I have ~60c CPU temp when RealTemp shows 70c.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                    Originally posted by Psycho101 View Post
                    I can't find one for the EP45-DS3L
                    Looks pretty much the same as other P45 boards by looking at the manual, less DRAM/Channel Reference.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                      I have attached a screenshot of my BIOS settings. I couldn't find the software they used to read their temps so I just used SpeedFan. I hope that is OK.

                      When I said alarm, I meant that I had set up a custom alarm to warn me if my CPU temps hit 70*C. Usually, I'd be much more comfortable at 60*C or 65*c, but since it is summer my room heats up a lot. When my computer is on full load, I easily hit 65*C.

                      When I said I left my BIOS settings on default, I mean that I didn't change anything. When I went to take a look at my BIOS settings, it seems like when I updated my BIOS, the settings automatically retested to some sort of predetermined state. That is why I had to change the following three things in my BIOS:
                      • Load from my DVD-ROM first (to perform MemTest)
                      • Change my RAM voltage to 2.1 (to match RAM manufacturer specifications)
                      • Have an alarm when CPU temperature reaches 70*C
                      Attached Files
                      Gigabyte EP45-DS3L F10 BIOS
                      E8400 @ 3Ghz
                      OCZ 2 X 2Gb DDR2 1066
                      EVGA 9800GX2
                      Corsair TX750

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                      • #12
                        Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                        Originally posted by icu222much View Post
                        I have attached a screenshot of my BIOS settings. I couldn't find the software they used to read their temps so I just used SpeedFan. I hope that is OK.
                        You can find all the programs in Latest Overclocking Programs, System Info, Benchmarking, & Stability Tools
                        SpeedFan is quite ok but I don't see the CPU temps there and core temp not always show the right value and may need to be adjusted. I can't tell what is your sustem temp either.

                        Originally posted by icu222much
                        When I said alarm, I meant that I had set up a custom alarm to warn me if my CPU temps hit 70*C. Usually, I'd be much more comfortable at 60*C or 65*c, but since it is summer my room heats up a lot. When my computer is on full load, I easily hit 65*C.
                        65c moyherboareed reading CPU yemp is *very* high, 70c is about as much your CPU can take, that's it's max temp, above that it will start limit itself. Something must be done with your temps, I don't thinl they should be so high even with stock HS. What room temperature do you have?

                        Originally posted by icu222much
                        When I said I left my BIOS settings on default, I mean that I didn't change anything. When I went to take a look at my BIOS settings, it seems like when I updated my BIOS, the settings automatically retested to some sort of predetermined state. That is why I had to change the following three things in my BIOS
                        Yes I understand, I wasn't reading it right the first time.
                        After updating BIOS you shoukd have load optimized defaults, if not then load optimized defaults and reapply your 3 changes.

                        Do you still have the problem with slots 1 & 3? You decided to keep the board using slots 2 & 4?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                          Which program do you suggest me to use to monitor my temps? I tried using RealTemp and RealTemp showed that my CPU is several degrees cooler then SpeedFan.

                          Last night when I took the screenshots, the room temperature was around 24*C. My processor at idle was 49*C. Again, my processor temperature reading is based from SpeedFan, which seems to be inaccurate.

                          I will optimize my BIOS and then reapply my three changes. At the moment I am using memory slots 1 & 3. I also ran MemTest for 7 hours and it passed.
                          Gigabyte EP45-DS3L F10 BIOS
                          E8400 @ 3Ghz
                          OCZ 2 X 2Gb DDR2 1066
                          EVGA 9800GX2
                          Corsair TX750

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                          • #14
                            Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                            Originally posted by icu222much View Post
                            Which program do you suggest me to use to monitor my temps? I tried using RealTemp and RealTemp showed that my CPU is several degrees cooler then SpeedFan
                            RealTemp and CoreTemp both show the same temperature and use 100c TJmax which is right to my CPU. SpeedFan shows 5c more and I think it uses 105c TJmax, it can be shifted in advance pereferences.

                            I use both, SpeenFan for fan and voltage monitoring and RealTemp for core temps.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Seems Like Mem Slots 1 & 3 Failed

                              Hi icu222much Could you try downloading hardware monitor and post results here? Click on it here----> CPUID
                              CPUID is really a Hardware monitor which will post most of your voltages in Windows.
                              I am looking at your Speedfan voltage you posted, and they look like they are off. You should compare them with another program to see if it is Speedfan or something else.
                              The CPUID Hardware monitor gives you a display like this---->

                              By artdrivers at 2009-06-24
                              Last edited by artdrivers; 07-18-2009, 07:25 PM.
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