Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

[MattR.]

Hi There,
I am the guy that had the Pentium 4 HT 3.73 Ghz EE CPU installed on my Gigabyte GA-EP45C-UD3R Motherboard and could not get it to run stable! It kept re-starting on it's own when put under load!!!
I replaced the: Powersupply, R.A.M., CPU and still won't run stable? It mainly dies when I am watching T.V. and then shut the T.V. application down. And also under any load! Like burning a CD and browsing the internet at the same time?
I have the Gigabyte motherboard, a ATI All-In-Wonder HD Graphics card, Patriot PC3-16000 (2000 Mhz) Memory (2 x 2 GB), and a 600 Watt MSI Turbostream ATX12V. V2.2 Power Supply, and the Q9650 CPU!
I called Gigabyte and they told me to update the BIOS to the most recent version which I did. I thought it helped, but this morning I was watching T.V. and when I shut the T.V. application down the computer DIED!!!!!!!
It keeps saying "Bad_Pool_Caller" or "PFN_LIST_CORRUPT" and then a long string of numbers and letters?!?!
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO?!?! I am so very frustrated at this point!!!!!
I am about ready to just sell it as is! I AM SERIOUS!!! I would take $1500 for the whole thing. I have over $2500 invested!!! And it is the most unstable piece ot **** I have ever encountered?!!!!
There is no way that you could ever overclock this processor with this board! I have read that people have no problems getting this CPU to run at 4 Ghz? How I don't know?
Because now when I run Benchmarks with Everest it does not even beat my Pentium 4 HT 3.73 EE?!!!!!
So much for this thing beating the Bloody Pulp out of my Pentium 4 CPU like I figured it would?
WHAT A MAJOR DISAPPOINTMENT AND RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If anyone could help me I would appreciate it, otherwise I am going to get rid of this piece of junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks and have a good day! I hope to hear from someone soon!

MattR.
Matthew Rohren
402-477-0280
[email protected]

[gampamu]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Is the Vdimm set per the memory modules' spec? The mobo default for DDR3's is 1.5V, whereas the spec for 2000 Patriot modules are 2.0V. A huge difference.

[MattR.]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Hi,
Yes, I set the Vdim to 2.020 volts and that equates to 1.98 volts in Everest. I also changed the timings to 9-9-9-24. Where it was 7-7-7-20 default value. I also tried to use the Easy-Tune to overclock and it worked up to 3.8 Ghz before it died! But when I did this the voltages and timings did not stay the same as I set them?
Should I not try to use the Easy-Tune?

Anyway, I am very very bummed out about this. Thanks a bunch though!

MattR.
Matthew Rohren
[email protected]
402-477-0280

[AHPD]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Calm down and cool down, first thing you should ever do is LOAD OPTIMIZED DEFAULTS.
Reboot your machine and you can start playing with bios settings.

And if you're overclocking, what is your target speed? 4Ghz?

And tell your whole story, i consider overclocking on Gigabyte P45 boards a fairly easy task, i got angry with my board when i just purchased and installed, i had a lot of trouble at the beginning, at november 2008.

The most common issue so far is reboot loops, shutting itself down is another story.

Best regards.

[artdrivers]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Yeah I tried that EasyTune and it's junk. I went into bios and set the specs to manual, and adjusted the volts, timings, multipliers, and frequencies and it works better. I believe it's the memory. What is the part number on that memory? Patriot PVS32G1866LLK has to be downgraded to 1333 http://www.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memo...ep45c-ud3r.pdf

[MattR.]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Hi Again,
I don't think it's the memory, or at least it still did it when I had Pony 667 Memory installed to?
And yes it does the re-start thing NOT shut down! I just said it shuts down, because I changed a setting so it would give me the Blue Screen of death instead of re-starting over and over again.
I was just watching the T.V. and it just did it again! But this time while I was watching the T.V., not when I was closing the application down?

Please Help Me!!! I Will Pay For The Help If Needed!!!

MattR.
Matthew Rohren
[email protected]
402-477-0280

My Goal is 4.0 Ghz!!!

Here is my computer specs:

Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU
GA-EP45C-UD3R Motherboard
ATI All-In-Wonder HD Graphics Card
Patriot PC3-16000 Memory (2 x 2 GB)
Creative Sound Blaster Platinum Sound Card
WesternDigital 10,000 R.P.M. Raptor Hard Drive (Boot Drive)
MSI TurboStream ATX 12V Version 2.2 Power Supply (600 Watt)

I hope that is all you need to help me? If not let me know!

Thanks A Bunch!

MattR.
Matthew Rohren
[email protected]
402-477-0280
Lincoln, Nebraska

P.S.--My Goal Is 4.0 Ghz, But Right Now I Would Be Just Happy To Get It To Run Stable At Factory Settings!!! IT WON'T EVEN DO THAT?! I did load Optimized Defaults, but do I need to load them every time before I change something in the BIOS?

[artdrivers]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

http://china.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manual_ga-ep45c-ud3(r)_e.pdf

We need you to take some pictures of your bios
Go to your cmos setup and fill in the numbers and change the numbers below and send it to us. If there are any lines left out include them in here.
This will help us determine what numbers you may need to change.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or FAST
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 4000

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 445 Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 900 mv
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 50-1500 ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50-250 ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 333
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B or 2.66D with much looser ram timings (Speed will be 1183 unless you back off FSB) Or use 2.00D for a much more stable overclock and ram at 890-900Mhz and then you could likely use 544-12/15 for your ram timings

Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1068
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15/18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-5
tWTR..........................................3-7
tWR............................................ 4-8
tRFC...........................................58-85
tRTP........................................... 3-8
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................800-1200

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 for 333/B MCH (9-12 for 400.D MCH)
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 for 333/B MCH (9-12 for 400.D MCH)
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.375-x.xx More or less may be needed, as this is not actual value

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.34-1.38
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.5-1.55
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: AUTO
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V ........: AUTO

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.25-1.35
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; AUTO
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: AUTO
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.55-1.64
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.1x-1.25

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0-2.1
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: AUTO
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: AUTO
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: AUTO

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled] << Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled] << ENABLED
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

[MattR.]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Great!
I WILL, but do you want me to send you the settings right now? Because right now I have it set at the Optimized Defaults with the only change being the Memory Timings are set to 9-9-9-24 and the Memory Voltage is set to 2.040. These are the only things I have changed right now. I changed everything back to stock, but it still is not stable?
I set the Memory to 2.040, because it reads 2.00 volts in Everest and the BIOS system PC Health Status when I do. And since I did it hasn't failed yet, but it has only been 2 hours! It failed when I had it set at 2.020 volts, so I would doubt that another .020 would make that much difference?
Anyway, I would like to get it stable with the factory settings first. And then try to overclock it.
Oh, and also it is a "shutdown re-start loop" that happens when it does do it. But I changed something, so it would not do that anymore. I can't remember what I did, but now it just stops running and gives me the blue screen with usually the message "Bad_Pool_Caller" with a string of letters and numbers. And also a message telling me to check any new software or hardware changes.

I will be here at my computer for a couple of hours yet, so feel free to contact me. I will respond right away!

Thanks for the reply!

MattR.

[PrairieDawg]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Just to get back to basics; Is it possible the issues are software based? Bad_Pool_Caller and PFN_LIST_CORRUPT can also be driver related issues. Have you reinstalled Windows and/or updated all drivers? Will it still crash if you run a "Live" Linux disk? Have you disconnected all possible peripherals to see if the problem still persists?

[artdrivers]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

OK the Bad_Pool_Caller and PFN_LIST_CORRUPT is software related. Did you upgrade from Windows 2000?
We have not established what operating system you are using? Windows XP Home sp1 sp2 sp3, or Pro 32bit? 64bit? Windows Vista32 or 64? Get Windows 7. That will fix it.

[MattR.]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Good Morning,
O.K., I have a much better outlook today on fixing this problem! I have cooled off finally.
Anyway, I am running Windows XP Pro (SP-3). I installed it from a disk and it is a clean install on a brand new hard-drive. The disk was the Service Pack 3 Edition, so I didn't have to download the service packs to upgrade.
Oh yeah, it is the x32 bit version.
I have been curious about the ATI Graphics card Drivers? I have had problems with them in the past. Just not very good software or support, in the past!
I am going to contact them this morning after I hear back from you guys and ask them if they have heard of this conflict before?
I sure hope I don't have to try a different Graphics Card driver, because it is almost Impossible to get all the stuff off of the hard drive that is related to ATI! You almost have to re-format the hard drive and start over! At least this has been my experience in the past with ATI graphics cards/drivers and software!

So Here is my Operating System Again:

Windows XP Professional (SP-3) x32 bit version

Thanks Guys and Gals and Hope to Here from You Soon!

MattR.

[artdrivers]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Do you have the ATI-Software removal tool in add and remove programs? This always must be used before installing any catalyst control center software or ati drivers. AMD has drivers and software updates for that graphics-tv card. The Legacy driver is Catalyst software suite 9.3 Do you have this?

[MattR.]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Hi There,
Good to here from you!
Yes, I have a tool called "ATI-software Uninstall Utillity" in the Add and Remove Programs list.
But that has never removed all the stuff in the past! I had to go back and remove things manually from the Registery and other places on the C: drive! Otherwise it would never work right if I did not get all the stuff off by just using the Uninstall Utillity?!
I ended up getting advice from ATI on how to do it. And still had problems with new install. That was with my old ATI All-In-Wonder card.
I know, you are asking yourself why did I buy another ATI card if I have had problems with them in the past?
Well, I kind of figured that they would have gotten all the bugs worked out and they also merged with AMD. Not that that would make a difference, but I thought it might.
When I first got this All-In-Wonder HD card that I am using now, the drivers and software that came with the card did not work correctly! There was static when you turned the T.V. on and it had other problems to. So I had to wait for almost 4 months to get the updated drivers and software! Even though they claim that they post new one's every month now. They didn't with this one?! So I tried to get a clean install with the new drivers and could not get it to work quite right, so I reformated the hard-drive and started over!
I really, really don't want to have to do that tough, because I have probably over 50 applications on my computer and it takes for ever to reinstall them all!

I don't Know about the Legacy software, but what I have is the Catylyst Control Center (version 2.008)and the ATI Display Drivers (version 8.451)?

Thanks, I will be here all day! Until I get this fixed!

MattR.

[MattR.]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Yes, I have another hard-drive. But it has lots of stuff on it!

MattR.

[MattR.]

Re: Got My New Core 2 Quad (Q9650) CPU and Still Not Stable!!!!

Yeah, I was planning on eventually migrating to Windows 7. But there is no drivers out for all of my perefials yet?

I also, wanted to use Windows XP x64 bit version. But there is a couple of drivers that are not available for a couple of perefials I am using. One is my MIDI contoller! Kind of Important!

MattR.