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  • q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

    ok so i was going for 3.6ghz but i think its a little too much right now

    here are my settings for 3.4ghz (425x8) on an ep45 ds3l mobo

    in prime 95 one core fails with 2-3 minutes. and says fatal error 0.5 was expecting 0.4 or something like that

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.40ghz (425x8)
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [Mhz] 400
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : 100
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 800
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< 0
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : Standard
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : Auto
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : 2.50A
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : 1063
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : Manual
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : 5
    tRCD ------------------- ?? ---------- : 5 (manufacturer timing is 6) but i dont think this is causing a core to fail in prime(rounding error) ormaybe it is
    tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : 5(manufacturer timing is 6)
    tRAS ------------------- ?? ---------- : 18
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : 55
    tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto]
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value ----------- ?? ------ : [Auto] 7
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control ----- ?? ------ : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control ----- ?? ------ : [Auto] ps
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value ----------- ?? ------ : [Auto] 7
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment -------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ------- ?? ------ : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control ----- ?? ------ : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control ----- ?? ------ : [Auto] ps
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.????? ---- : 1.475
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : 1.4
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : 1.55
    cPU Reference ----------- 0.755V* ----- : [Auto]
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : 1.3
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.800V ------- : [Auto]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [Auto]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : 2.1(manufacturer settings)
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : disabled
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : enabled
    CPU EIST Function --------------------- : disabled
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : disabled
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : disabled

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    Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

    From my testing (and i'v done a lot Q6600, E5200, E8500) the MCH reference plays a massive role in getting a stable overclock, for me it is the difference between not posting and being stable. It seems to work best for me if it is set to 0.926v (if VTT is 1.4v like yours). If that works try lowering the VTT back down to 1.3v or below, I only need 1.22v for 425FSB, but I have a golden chip. I know i'm using a UD3P/R, but yours is also a P45 chipset with very similar settings to mine.
    CPU: Intel C2Q Q6600 G0 @ 3.2GHz W/ 1.184v (Max Overclock - 4.1GHz ON AIR)
    Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P (Max Overclock - 515FSB)
    RAM: CellShock 2GB PC2-8500 @ 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 (Max Overclock - 1300MHz 5-4-4-12)
    Video Card: Gainward HD4870 GS @ 775MHz/4000MHz (Max Overclock - 835MHz/1175MHz)
    Case: Antec 1200

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    • #3
      Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

      should i also try reducing cpu vcore and cpu termination and raise cpu reference?

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      • #4
        Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

        First off see if you can get it stable with those settings (but change the MCH Reference). Then save those settings into the BIOS, then try lowering Vcore, PLL and VTT while still remaining stable.
        CPU: Intel C2Q Q6600 G0 @ 3.2GHz W/ 1.184v (Max Overclock - 4.1GHz ON AIR)
        Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P (Max Overclock - 515FSB)
        RAM: CellShock 2GB PC2-8500 @ 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 (Max Overclock - 1300MHz 5-4-4-12)
        Video Card: Gainward HD4870 GS @ 775MHz/4000MHz (Max Overclock - 835MHz/1175MHz)
        Case: Antec 1200

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        • #5
          Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

          when your talking about your 1.22 were you talking about your cpu vtt or fsb vtt cause i dont see any setting for fsb termination

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          • #6
            Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

            I was talking about the VTT, CPU Termination is the same as FSB Termination as far as I know. Some mobo manufactures call it CPU Termination, some say FSB.
            CPU: Intel C2Q Q6600 G0 @ 3.2GHz W/ 1.184v (Max Overclock - 4.1GHz ON AIR)
            Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P (Max Overclock - 515FSB)
            RAM: CellShock 2GB PC2-8500 @ 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 (Max Overclock - 1300MHz 5-4-4-12)
            Video Card: Gainward HD4870 GS @ 775MHz/4000MHz (Max Overclock - 835MHz/1175MHz)
            Case: Antec 1200

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            • #7
              Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

              ok so i tried what you suggested and i lasted a bit longer in prime 95 but core 0 still fails at 8 minutes instead of 2 minutes. what settings do you suggest?

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              • #8
                Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

                Hmm, since it worked a little better, try increase the MCH reference and if that doesn't work try decreasing it. Also u can try a MCH clock skew of 50ps.
                CPU: Intel C2Q Q6600 G0 @ 3.2GHz W/ 1.184v (Max Overclock - 4.1GHz ON AIR)
                Mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P (Max Overclock - 515FSB)
                RAM: CellShock 2GB PC2-8500 @ 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 (Max Overclock - 1300MHz 5-4-4-12)
                Video Card: Gainward HD4870 GS @ 775MHz/4000MHz (Max Overclock - 835MHz/1175MHz)
                Case: Antec 1200

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                • #9
                  Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

                  Well two things I would suggest, yes you using the incorrect MAIN timings for your ram can cause those errors. Your ram is only rated/tested to work at 566-18 meaning it is made from cheaper chips, so if you want to use 555-18 you will have to push more voltages thru it and even then that may or may not work. I'd suggest you use the correct timings for now.

                  I also suggest you use less MCH voltage, you should not need that much for only 425 FSB and 4GB of ram, try 1.22-1.26

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                  • #10
                    Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

                    ah ok lsd i will change the timings back to normal. do you thihnk i could lower the cpu vcore and termination then?

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                    • #11
                      Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

                      You need to test again at stock memory timings first. I'd also keep them at stock till youre stable, then tightem them.

                      Some Q6600's, even G0's might never be able to get to 3.4 stable, but I'd keep trying at the minute.

                      Don't ignore CPU reference either. I tried everything on my Q8200 to get 3.4GHz stable, I was stuck at 3.2 for ages until I upped CPU ref by one notch. After that I was rock solid, and able to lower VTT and PLL as well, to 1.24V and 1.57V respectively.
                      Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
                      Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
                      P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
                      Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
                      TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
                      2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
                      2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
                      Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
                      Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
                      WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
                      Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
                      Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
                      3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
                      Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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                      • #12
                        Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

                        ok so i tried what LSD told me and now it wont boot into windows after the post screen it says like corrupted file or missing file in system folders or something. but when i go back to my 3.2ghz settings i can get into windows fine. is sometehing wrong with my harddrive? or does this happen when oc'ing?

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                        • #13
                          Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

                          You're hard drive is ok. I've had the same kind of messages. It's more like the file being corrupted by the CPU or memory due to incorrect settings. The corruption occurs after the file is read from the drive, and goes to RAM.
                          Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
                          Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
                          P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
                          Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
                          TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
                          2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
                          2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
                          Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
                          Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
                          WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
                          Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
                          Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
                          3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
                          Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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                          • #14
                            Re: q6600 3.4ghz (425x8) help

                            well i tried what you guys said with cpu refernce and mch reference i cant get it to boot intro windows. i get these corrupt errors, missing boot manager errors and stuff. maybe 3.2ghz is the limit. i dont know lol

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