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  • #16
    Re: Debugging new build

    OK some/good Success. I tested a few times switching between 800MHz and 1066Mhz with my room at 18c and all 6 case fans going on a separate power supply. 800Mhz seems to work perfectly with no errors of about 30 seconds of running memtest86+ but on 1066Mhz +1000's of errors when system just starts up. I dint buy this ram and everything though for 800Mhz.

    I did not try changing the CPU Voltage any. The box says 1.35v and newegg specs have 0.85V–1.5V and the bios has 1.25 on auto. So I don't know what the heck it should/could be.

    I played around with increasing all the timing a bunch on 1066 thinking it was just a clock cycle timing slightly to low but with no successes.

    OK to the good part. A few days ago I remember I tried increasing MCH Core voltage slightly reading on a couple of places that had the same ram and mobo combo and suggested here to. However when I had tried increasing it from 1.10v to 1.20v, the system did not boot and just reverted back. I researched the MCH a bit before to find out just what the heck it is exactly, saw something about trying 1.05v. Success, at 1066Mhz and 5-5-5-18, cold boot no errors after about 30 seconds of memtest86+, restart just change MCH Core voltage back to 1.1, rebooted, memtest86+ gets 1000+errors in 10 seconds, go back to 1.05v no errors of about 2 min Memtest. I know 2 min of mem testing is by no means a full test, but it appears that the MCH voltage was causing the cold boot fails. I have also been testing this with 8gb 4x2gb. Seems contrary to what iv read for 2 or 4 sticks.

    Here is a graph of the DIMM and CPU core idle and under load
    left- 2x2gb at MCH 1.10v(auto)
    right- 4x2gb at MCH 1.05v


    So any idea why this works? is it a motherboard quark/defects where the voltage is higher when its cooler? or bios registering the voltage wrong? Or is it really something else but that causes the symptoms to go away such as the cpu needing higher voltage and by decreasing the MCH the mobo can supply the CPU slightly more stable power at start?
    Last edited by cpbldr; 03-19-2009, 02:34 AM.

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    • #17
      Re: Debugging new build

      I've found that a bit too much MCH voltage causes errors and occasionally boot problems. It's a matter of finding the sweet spot. The optimal setting will vary depending on your memory:
      2 sticks vs 4 sticks
      2x2GB vs 4x1GB
      PC2-6400 vs PC2-1066.
      Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
      P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
      4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
      MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
      Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
      WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
      Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
      SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
      Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
      Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
      Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
      MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
      Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
      win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
      HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
      CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
      E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
      Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
      Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
      HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
      win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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