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  • GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    Hi. I am a noob to overclocking. Can someone suggest some stable settings and where to go from there?

    My system:
    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P
    E8500
    PATRIOT PVS24G8500ELKR2 (2x2GB) PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066) DDR2
    Corsair VX450W Power Supply
    Evga GeForce 8800GS
    Vista 64

    TIA!

  • #2
    Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    Try this for 3.6Ghz to get you started.

    Have you read the sticky guides yet, if not take some time to read them so you will know a little bit about overclocking

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.609


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 401Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15/18

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-4
    tWTR..........................................3-5
    tWR............................................4-6
    tRFC...........................................52-62
    tRTP...........................................3-5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................800/1066 (Test both Last)

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.225-1.36 (All up to your chip)

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.2-1.36 (1.2-1.28 likely plenty, keep under Vcore)
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.5-1.58

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2-1.3 (1.22-1.26 likely good)
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.6
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.1x-1.2

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0-2.1
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    • #3
      Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

      Yes.. I'm reviving my 4 year old thread..

      I still can not get this system stable! It still BSOD quite often which is very annoying. I am giving one last ditch effort before I scrap this motherboard.

      I have used factory defaults and many recommended OC settings.

      Since this time...
      I have replaced the motherboard once.
      Replaced the Patriot memory once.
      Upgraded to Windows 7 64 Ultimate.

      Added a Corsair H60 water cooler (CPU was running at 60C for years!).
      Upgraded to better memory.. G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B (People said that G.SKILL memory worked better with this board).

      My goal is to get this system stable first... without overclocking.. Any ideas?

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      • #4
        Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

        Check out http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post295784, post #5 for basic stock settings.
        Follow steps 1 - 4 in the post to provide additional information.

        We can best help you after you create a detailed hardware list in the System Specs portion of your
        forum profile http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile.php?do=editprofile at the bottom of the
        edit profile page. Be sure to include brand names and model numbers and the bios version number.
        Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
        P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
        4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
        MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
        Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
        WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
        Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
        SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
        Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
        Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
        Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
        MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
        Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
        HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
        CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
        E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
        Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
        Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
        HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
        .

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        • #5
          Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

          Here's my old C2D E8400 + UD3P setup OCed and still chugging along just fine to this day.

          Code:
          ******************************
          MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
          ******************************
          Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Turbo]
          CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [8X]
          x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
          CPU Frequency ........................: 4.30GHz (538x8.0)
          
          ********** Clock Chip Control ********
          
          >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
          CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
          x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [538]
          PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
          C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
          
          >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter]
          CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
          PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
          CPU Clock Skew........................: [0ps]
          MCH Clock Skew........................: [0ps]
          
          ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
          
          Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
          Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
          (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
          System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00D]
          Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: (1066)
          DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
          
          >>>>> Standard Timing Control
          x CAS Latency Time................5...: [5]
          x tRCD ...........................5...: [5]
          x tRP.............................5...: [5]
          x tRAS...........................18...: [15]
          
          >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter]
          x tRRD............................3...: Auto
          x tWTR............................3...: Auto
          x tWR.............................6...: Auto
          x tRFC...........................52...: [54]
          x tRTP............................3...: Auto
          x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: Auto
          
          >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
          x Static tRead Value..............11..: [10]
          x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
          x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
          x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
          x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
          
          x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
          x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
          x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
          x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
          
          x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
          x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
          x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
          
          >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
          x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
          
          x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
          x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
          x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
          x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
          
          x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
          x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
          x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
          x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
          
          >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
          x Static tRead Value..............11..: [10]
          x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
          x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
          x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
          x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
          
          x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
          x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
          x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
          x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
          
          x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
          x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
          x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
          
          >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
          x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
          
          x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
          x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
          x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
          x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
          
          x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
          x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
          x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
          x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
          
          ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
          
          Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
          -----------------------------------------------
          >>> CPU
          Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled]
          CPU Vcore..............1.25000V.......: [1.41250V]
          CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.320V]
          CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.590V]
          CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.760V] (When CPU Term is @ 1.2 this is @ .760)
          >>> MCH/ICH
          MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.340V]
          MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.700V] (When CPU Term is @ 1.2 this is @ .700)
          MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
          ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [1.570]
          ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200]
          >>> DRAM
          DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.1v]
          DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
          Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
          Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
          
          ******** Advanced BIOS Features ********
          Hard Disk Boot Priority...............: [Press Enter]
          First Boot Device.....................: [CDROM]
          Second Boot Device....................: [USB-CDROM]
          Third Boot Device.....................: [Hard Disk]
          Password Check........................: [Setup]
          HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability.............: [Enabled]
          Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
          No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
          CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
          C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
          x C4/C4E State Support................: [Disabled]
          CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
          CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
          Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
          Delay For HDD (Secs)..................: [0]
          Full Screen LOGO Show.................: [Disabled]
          Init Display First....................: [PEG]
          
          ******** Integrated Peripherals ********
          USB Keyboard Function.................: [Enabled]
          USB Mouse Function....................: [Enabled]
          USB Storage Function..................: [Enabled]
          The only changes if I use 4.0 and not 4.2/3 is CPU Vcore down to 1.36250 (MCH might be able to be lowered with a lesser FSB as well) and these setups both seem to be stable for me.

          This almost 90 page long thread http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ot-450fsb.html has TONS of information if you want to read D-an-W's journey of OCing his setup.

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

            Dan's thread is only 23 pages long (890 posts) when you set up your forum profile to display 40 posts per page.
            Yes, there is a wealth of good information in his thread, excluding the part where he and I were talking about his delay while he was "overclocking" and tweaking his bathroom remodel.
            Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
            P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
            4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
            MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
            Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
            WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
            SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
            Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
            Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
            Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
            MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
            Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
            HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
            CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
            E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
            Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
            Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
            HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
            .

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

              Originally posted by KayossZero View Post
              Here's my old C2D E8400 + UD3P setup OCed and still chugging along just fine to this day.

              Code:
              ******************************
              MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
              ******************************
              Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Turbo]
              CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [8X]
              x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
              CPU Frequency ........................: 4.30GHz (538x8.0)
              
              ********** Clock Chip Control ********
              
              >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
              CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
              x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [538]
              PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
              C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
              
              >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter]
              CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
              PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
              CPU Clock Skew........................: [0ps]
              MCH Clock Skew........................: [0ps]
              
              ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
              
              Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
              Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
              (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
              System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00D]
              Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: (1066)
              DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
              
              >>>>> Standard Timing Control
              x CAS Latency Time................5...: [5]
              x tRCD ...........................5...: [5]
              x tRP.............................5...: [5]
              x tRAS...........................18...: [15]
              
              >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter]
              x tRRD............................3...: Auto
              x tWTR............................3...: Auto
              x tWR.............................6...: Auto
              x tRFC...........................52...: [54]
              x tRTP............................3...: Auto
              x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: Auto
              
              >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
              x Static tRead Value..............11..: [10]
              x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
              x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
              x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
              x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
              
              x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
              x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
              x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
              x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
              
              x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
              x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
              x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
              
              >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
              x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
              
              x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
              x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
              x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
              x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
              
              x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
              x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
              x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
              x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
              
              >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
              x Static tRead Value..............11..: [10]
              x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
              x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
              x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
              x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
              
              x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
              x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
              x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
              x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
              
              x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
              x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
              x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
              
              >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
              x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
              
              x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
              x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
              x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
              x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
              
              x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
              x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
              x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
              x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
              
              ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
              
              Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
              -----------------------------------------------
              >>> CPU
              Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled]
              CPU Vcore..............1.25000V.......: [1.41250V]
              CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.320V]
              CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.590V]
              CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.760V] (When CPU Term is @ 1.2 this is @ .760)
              >>> MCH/ICH
              MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.340V]
              MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.700V] (When CPU Term is @ 1.2 this is @ .700)
              MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
              ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [1.570]
              ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200]
              >>> DRAM
              DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.1v]
              DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
              Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
              Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
              
              ******** Advanced BIOS Features ********
              Hard Disk Boot Priority...............: [Press Enter]
              First Boot Device.....................: [CDROM]
              Second Boot Device....................: [USB-CDROM]
              Third Boot Device.....................: [Hard Disk]
              Password Check........................: [Setup]
              HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability.............: [Enabled]
              Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
              No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
              CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
              C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
              x C4/C4E State Support................: [Disabled]
              CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
              CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
              Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
              Delay For HDD (Secs)..................: [0]
              Full Screen LOGO Show.................: [Disabled]
              Init Display First....................: [PEG]
              
              ******** Integrated Peripherals ********
              USB Keyboard Function.................: [Enabled]
              USB Mouse Function....................: [Enabled]
              USB Storage Function..................: [Enabled]
              The only changes if I use 4.0 and not 4.2/3 is CPU Vcore down to 1.36250 (MCH might be able to be lowered with a lesser FSB as well) and these setups both seem to be stable for me.

              This almost 90 page long thread http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ot-450fsb.html has TONS of information if you want to read D-an-W's journey of OCing his setup.
              I tried these settings and it wouldn't even boot into Windows. Only difference was I couldn't set the MCH Reference to .700V because CPU Term was set to 1.32 (the closest was .692 I think).

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                Originally posted by profJim View Post
                Check out http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post295784, post #5 for basic stock settings.
                Follow steps 1 - 4 in the post to provide additional information.

                We can best help you after you create a detailed hardware list in the System Specs portion of your
                forum profile http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile.php?do=editprofile at the bottom of the
                edit profile page. Be sure to include brand names and model numbers and the bios version number.
                I followed the settings for basic stock settings (no overclocking) and was still not able to get a stable system. It will boot into Windows but apps will just not run properly.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                  Won't run properly?
                  This doesn't tell us anything.
                  When you have any problems or issues, we need specific details, such as system BSOD with error code, system froze, system rebooted while running program XYZ, etc.

                  We aren't mind readers.

                  Have you created a system backup image of your boot partition? If yes, which program created the backup?
                  Have you created a windows repair CD/DVD?
                  It's possible that the windows partition might get corrupted while you are overclocking.
                  Restoring from a backup image will take about 10 minutes.
                  Rebuilding your o/s and programs will take a lot longer.

                  Read and understand the overclocking basics in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ing-guide.html.
                  Don't get hung up on the details, just get a general grasp of the higher level concepts.

                  Even if you and KayossZero or any other user have identical systems, there is no way that you can copy their bios settings and have your system be as stable as theirs.

                  Post a copy of your current stock bios settings by filling in a copy of the bios template and post your template.
                  Did you load Optimized Bios settings before making the most recent changes to run your system at stock speeds?
                  Try booting your system with only one memory module installed in the first memory slot, DDR2_1.
                  See if your system is stable enough to follow step #4 in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post295784 to post a cropped screen-screenshot in your next post. The information in the screen-shot will help verify the information you post in your bios template.

                  We need to get your system stable at stock speeds before doing any overclocking.
                  Briefly check out Dans o/c thread where he did a superb job with posting bios settings, screen-shots, and described all problems in detail.

                  If you want to be spoon fed with bios settings that might be stable with some tweaking, someone else will need to help you.
                  If you want to learn overclocking basics, I can help you along with other forum members.
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                  • #10
                    Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                    Originally posted by profJim View Post
                    Even if you and KayossZero or any other user have identical systems, there is no way that you can copy their bios settings and have your system be as stable as theirs.
                    this x1000... 2 CPU's from the same batch both in the same motherboard (one after the other) might not run the same settings... Use other people's numbers as limits/ballpark... your chip might need 2.3v of vcore.... (don't do that you will blow your CPU)...

                    but you need to walk before you can run and right now you can't even stand up.

                    Please explain your definition of "It will boot into Windows but apps will just not run properly"... is it stuttering? hard locking? giving you a BSOD (blue screen of death)... does the blue screen come up and go away immediately and re-boots?

                    you need to be a little more specific. then we can look at helping...

                    Vin
                    Main Rig
                    OS = Win10-64Bit
                    CPU = Ryzen 1700x Overclocked to 4Ghz with custom water-cooling loop
                    Mem = 16GB RAM @ 3200Mhz
                    MB = Asus ROG C6H
                    GPU = Asus 1080Ti ROG Strix
                    HD = 512GB M.2 Samsung 960 Pro
                    PSU = EVGA SuperNOVA 1300w
                    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

                    HTPC / Home Server
                    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2012 Virtual Machine with 12GB ram assigned for homer server
                    CPU = i7-980X @ 3.5Ghz CoolerMasster Hyper 212 Evo
                    Mem = 24GB RAM
                    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios
                    GPU = EVGA nVidia GT210
                    HD = 2x PNY 120GB Raid 0 (OS)
                    Storage = 8TB WD Black Storage
                    PSU = Corsair TX750
                    Case = Define R5

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                    • #11
                      Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                      I understand there are variations in CPUs that may affect settings.. At this point I am just trying get STOCK speeds stable before I miss with overclocking. I want to rule out any hardware issues.

                      By not working properly.. The system is acting very weird! I mean I can boot into Windows. Everything seems to startup fine. When I try to run some apps like firefox, nothing will happen for 10-20 seconds and I then get an "execution error" message (I will get the exact message when I get home tonight). If I play with the CPU vcore, eventually, I will find a setting where all the apps will run... However, it's not stable.. after working for a couple of hours (sometimes a day), I will get a BSOD... I'm not even doing a burn-in..

                      I miss the days where default settings should work by default!

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                      • #12
                        Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                        If MCH Core is too high or too low, this can lead to boot loops and/or instability, even at stock settings.
                        Usually 2 x 2GB of memory requires MCH Core = 1.20 - 1.26 at stock settings.
                        As I recall, many G.Skill kits required MCH Core to be lower than the default 1.10 setting, usually 1.05 and sometimes as low as 0.95.

                        Try booting with only one memory module installed in the DDR2_1 slot and see if your system is any better.

                        You should download and run Memtest86+ freeware and make a bootable floppy, usb, or optical drive and boot to this drive and let Memtest86+ run for at least 10 full loops. Stop the test if there are any errors take a photo of the screen and post the screen-shot.
                        Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool (freeware)

                        Each test loop will take about 40 - 60 minutes.
                        If there are no errors after 10 loops, press the following keys to perform one additional test:
                        c 1 3 5 [ENTER] 0 <-- [ENTER} is the Enter key and the last key is a zero, not the letter O

                        to run only test #5 and let it run for 10 loops, this is about a 20 minute test.


                        Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                        P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                        4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                        MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                        Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                        WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                        Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                        SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                        Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                        Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                        Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                        MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                        Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                        HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                        CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                        E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                        Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                        Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                        HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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                        • #13
                          Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                          Alright, let's try and get you stable first my friend.

                          To start with, if at all possible please try and secure extra parts so we can eliminate the variables one at a time if need be.

                          What I've read so far suggests you have tried using stock (optimized defaults?) in your bios with no success?

                          So we're going to start from scratch. The first thing I want you to do is install the newest bios which is F11D (Modded) you can find it here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/dx1dix...21_12.F11d.rar Now, if for any reason this Bios doesn't work then F11D official is here (Modded should work fine for you, works fine for me and I also have a Rev 1.0 UD3P) http://oldforum.gigabyte.de/forumdow...1/ep45ud3p.zip

                          After you install this bios I want you to load into the bios and load optimized defaults and reboot, then back into your bios and set anything you want personalized (like turning on/off the integrated NIC ports etc.) make sure you have your intel SATA ports set to AHCI for optimal performance as well for your HD. (unless you're using IDE mode for some reason, or unless you're running a raid array, but I don't think you are)

                          The first thing to realize is that assuming everything is running fine hardware wise there should be no reason for you to touch anything else in the bios for you to be running stable stock after loading optimized defaults + customizing the personal settings. However, life always throws us curve balls, and as always this is subject to change.

                          Typically, the only time one has to change stock optimized bios default settings with these older PC setups is when they're running 8GB or more of Ram and/or are using Ram that requires a higher voltage than stock (because more Ram puts more stress on the Mobo even if you're just adding the same type ram and speed) now since you're only running 4GB? This shouldn't apply to you but a S.O.P (Standard operation procedure)for those it does in these circumstances is to bump the Northbridge/MCH core voltage from the default of 1.1 to 1.2 and to raise your DRAM voltage setting from the stock of 1.8V to 2.0-2.2 (depending on your Rams recommended setting) FYI: MCH = Memory Controller Hub, hence why more Ram/faster Ram puts more stress on the MCH and it can need a voltage bump to remain stable.

                          This first post should lead you to a stable system (assuming you follow the directions and your hardware is physically sound) however if it does not then we'll need to eliminate components and find out what the issue is.

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                          • #14
                            Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                            Before flashing your bios, make sure that your system is stable using only 1 memory module.
                            You don't want to risk bricking your motherboard while flashing because your system isn't stable.
                            If necessary, you might need to underclock your cpu to see if this helps with stability.
                            Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                            P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                            4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                            MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                            Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                            WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                            SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                            Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                            Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                            Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                            MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                            Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                            HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                            CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                            E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                            Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                            Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                            HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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                            • #15
                              Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

                              I am open to any and all suggestions...

                              I was able to get it stable with 1 stick of memory.. I will upgrade the bios and report back.

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