Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

[steeddy]

I've recently built a new system using the following:

E8200 2.66Ghz
GA-EP45-DS3L
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler

I have pretty much no experience with overclocking, but advised by a friend have managed to clock to 3.5ghz which seems to be stable. 3.2 and 3.4Ghz both ran Prime 95 fine for about 6 hours, and I've tested 3.5Ghz for about 3hrs. Max core temps were 57c in Real Temp (62c in HWMonitor). I then decided to try and push things further, but the system either fails to POST or boot Windows at 3.6Ghz. Heres my current BIOS settings:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.50

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 438Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Extreme]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00 D
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 876Mhz

DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15

Motherboard Voltage ControlCPUMCH/ICHAdvanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]

I believe with the temps I'm currently getting I could push the chip a bit further, but I don't really know how to proceed from here or how suitable the settings I'm using now are, so any help would be much appreciated.

[steeddy]

Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

Spoke to soon about running at 3.5Ghz, just had a BSOD so I've dropped back down to 3.4Ghz for now.

[Filip]

Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

Put Performance Enhance back to standard and put memory multiplyer on 2.4B and try then.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

I can advise you of this for now, please set these manually or you are going to KILL your CPU Auto WAY Overvolts them when overclocked>>>

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2-1.35 (1.2-1.28 should be good for your clocks
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.35-1.5 (Try 1.4-1.5)

Performance Enhance...................: [Extreme] << Use standard

Got a link to your ram, I assume it is the 2.2V version but just want to be sure. What does the sticker say? You may need to use at least 2.1 if they are the 2.2V version

Please fill out your FULL Settings as I need to see them all to best advise you >>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]
Voltage Type.………... Manual
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

[b]DRAM[/b]
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[steeddy]

Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.40


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 426Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1022
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................4
tWTR..........................................4
tWR............................................8
tRFC...........................................68
tRTP...........................................4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

Motherboard Voltage ControlCPUMCH/ICHDRAMAdvanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]


The ram is the 2.0V version, I made sure to check that as the shop I got it from advertised that version as being 2.2V for a short while and caused a few people problems.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

I would try using the D strap myself. Or try adding more MCH Voltage to stay on the B strap

It would be much easier for you to use 2.00D until you are done pushing your FSB up there and get it stable then work on your ram. You may need to use tRD 9 for the D Strap

And you may need more vcore then 1.3, what does that give you for actual in CPU-z at idle and load?

[steeddy]

Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

CPU-z gives vcore as 1.232 idle and 1.216 max load. I'll switch back to 2.00D for now, and I'm guessing I should just up the vcore by .01 and try a higher FSB?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

Well you should get where you are stable before you raise the FSB. That is a large vdrop/vdroop, just keep that in mind when you are finding and setting stable Vcore