P45-DS4, E8400 & ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 & ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Filled in your template, guess thats what u wanted me to do :)
Settings below are memtest/orthosstable, just the booting issues and S3 issue... :(


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8X
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 4GHz


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 500 Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< default
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< default
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00d
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 / 1000
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 3
tWTR.......................................... 3
tWR............................................ 6
tRFC........................................... 54
tRTP........................................... 3
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ Auto (tried all settings)

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................: 9
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto (tried to work with diffent skews)
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto (" ")

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................: 9
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.375v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.34v
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.5v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< AUTO
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< AUTO

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.32v (been as high as 1.36v)
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0v (tried 2.1v)
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: enabled (tried disable)
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: enabled (tried disable)
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB</pre>

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Try these changes to see if you can get S3 and or tRD 9 stable

CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 50-150
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 150-250


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00d
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 / 1000
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 3-4
tWTR.......................................... 3-4
tWR............................................ 6
tRFC........................................... 54-56
tRTP........................................... 3-4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ 800-1200

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................: 9
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto (tried to work with diffent skews)
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto (" ")

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................: 9
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.375v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.34v <<< Try 1.36-1.38
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.5v
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< AUTO
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< AUTO

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.32v (been as high as 1.36v)
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.55-1.65
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.14-1.25

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0v (tried 2.1v)
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: disabled
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: disabled

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Earlier tried all those settings, did it again now just to ensure...
no succes tho

What gets my attention is that cold boot and standby issue seem related.
Since both are gone for 3.6Ghz...

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Hmm, see if you get stable at 499FSB instead of 500, you may just have to use 9x450 for 4Ghz as it's memory multi may be a bit more stable then what you are trying with 8x500

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

i've been trying to run it with a fsb of 1-2 lower, no succes.
I won't be doing 445/450 fsb here because i cant get any descent ram speeds there (tested with several timings, 5-4-4-15(12?) were the tightest primairy timings i could achieve, tRD 9 was tightest here.
Overal performance on ram turned out to be like 20% less, so thats a choice which is rather simple made.

Guess my only hope for 8x500 without issues lies within a future BIOS update, that MIGHT bring fixes related to this.

Will be running 9x400 fully stable without issues for now, with 8x500 @ tRD10 / S1 available for switch.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Ya, maybe a BIOS update will help. Sorry I could not be of more help myself!

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

No need to apologyze, I know you did the best you could
As we both know there isn't always a simple solution to issues like these.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Ya, simple only sounds that way with P45!

Ya know, some ref adjustments could for sure help you get that stable. Have you read anything on how those work?

If not, let me know and I will link you to some knowledge and then you can try adjusting those to see if it helps you get anywhere

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Heard about it: yes.
Didn't try adjusting those tho.
All ref's are left auto, i thought auto sets them correct.

So strange the system is 100% stress-stable aside from the issues encountering...

would tweaking reference's really bring any relief; eliminating those issues?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

Yes, it does set them correct. But adjusting them to above or below the defaults of what is "Correct" helps with high FSB for sure.

Ya, but it would take a LONG time likely to find the right Vtt and then ref's

Here is Ton-O-Reading on it >>>

First one is for SLI board, but has some great info >>>
How to: What is GTLREF and what does it have to do with me?

Also see >>>
Understanding GTL Reference Voltage | ocXtreme
Edge Of Stability ~ Understanding GTL Reference Voltage
Edge Of Stability ~ CPU And Northbridge GTL Default Settings (DFI)
Adjusting A/GTL+ Levels for Increased FSB Signaling Margins and Overclocking - The Tech Repository Forums

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

It's been a while since my last post.
I recently did a upgrade to my main (gaming) rig so I would like to share some new benchmarks.

The changes made:
- 2 x 74GB WD740GD Raptors as main HDD exchanged for Intel Postville 160GB
- Sapphire HD4870 512mb exchanged for Sapphire HD5870 (1024mb)
- Flashed bios from F9 to F10b (could not find the changes in this rev. tho)
- Running Windows7x64 instead of Vista x64

My previous 8x500 overclock had serious issues with ram TRD setting and POST although beeing 24h Orthos-stable (also memtest). It needed at least 1,32v MCHcore which I didn't really like.

Currently running 9x450 with much lower voltages, just a bit more Vcore.
BIOS Voltages:
Vcore: 1,3875v (1,31-1,33 after vdroop)
Pll: 1,5v
VTT: 1,32v
MCHvore: 1,24v
RAM: 1,9v
These are tested to be absolute minimum values needed.

Ram settings are shown in memset (screenshot)

Did a 17h Orthos blend test and around 10 memtest86+(4.00) passes, without error's.
Strange thing is that I had a few consecutive errors within seconds doing blend test when I just switched back to this 9x450 profile after doing benchmarks @ 9x400.
After doing a new cold boot i was still stable again after 10 hours with the same settings.

Anyone dares to take a shot what possibly caused Orthos suddenly to crash this fast? My guess is that VRM's were just (incidently) deviating to much.

So far, S3 standy is still with me as well. If it finally stays that way I wonder what caused it to reboot at resume in the past.

Time for some screenie's. Unfortunately the RAM is (logically) underperforming @ 9x450 compared to 8x500.
I did manage to get very tight TRFC timings stable for both profiles

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

9x450 with VGA @ 890/1290 (SSD bench included):

[MadDoGz]

Re: P45-DS4, E8400 &amp; ReaperX PC8000-2x2gb benchmarked

9x400 (stock voltage's) with VGA @ stock: