GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

[GHz]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

why not read the bios flashing guide?

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

Has anyone tested the UD4P F9a bios??

I am wondering if the turbo not coming on from sleep recovery has been fixed...

No, sadly it is still the same as F7e, and F8a. Turbo is set to disabled upon resume. I have passed this info along to my contact, and the Easytune Multi issue as well.

Hopefully some progress will be made soon, at least S3 is working now that's a plus for many users

Can somebody ask the BIOS engineers why the RTL (round trip latency) values keep changing please...

I've been looking at them using CPU-Tweaker and watching each channel A, B, & C.

With them set to auto, the values can change just from rebooting, without me touching anything in the BIOS

Earlier they read 49, 51, 52. Then after a reboot, they read 50, 50, 51 and I've also seen them set to 49, 51, 53

Is there no set guideline to these figures?

Many thanks in advance

P.S. Is it also possible to stop the board from reading 4-8-8-20 after S3 sleep please?

rTL values are changed by a few things. Memory speed of course, Vtt Voltage, tRRD, tWRWR (Write to Read Same Rank), tFAW, and sometimes of course Memory Multi.

So maybe you changed one of those and did not think it mattered?

Do not pay attention to what you see in the BIOS for settings, those are not always used anyway.

To check the real values use CPU-Tweaker and you should find that if you are not changing settings they will remain the same if you are manually setting them

How is it possible to update my bios when i dont have no floppy drive...
The new bios files wont update with usbdrive, says invalid image. But with old ones i could update, how to resolve the invalid image? On X58 UD5.

Yes, you can use a USB Stick with Qflash, make a bootable USB Stick with DOS, or flash from a FAT Partition. Please see here >>>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

[GHz]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

rTL values are changed by a few things. Memory speed of course, Vtt Voltage, tRRD, tWRWR (Write to Read Same Rank), tFAW, and sometimes of course Memory Multi.

So maybe you changed one of those and did not think it mattered?

Do not pay attention to what you see in the BIOS for settings, those are not always used anyway.

To check the real values use CPU-Tweaker and you should find that if you are not changing settings they will remain the same if you are manually setting them

nope, i already stated in my post that nothing was changed, no memory settings, no chipset settings, no cpu settings, just rebooted
sometimes they will change when shutdown and powered back up again, and sometimes if i enter the bios to check a setting (without actually changing anything)
and i am using cpu-tweaker, again as i have already stated in the post you quoted

[edit] e.g.
just tested:-

i checked RTL with cpu-tweaker, 50, 50, 51
i rebooted, entered bios, change nothing and save and exit
enter windows, open cpu-tweaker and RTL reads 49, 51, 52

[edit2]
rebooted again, normally
got back to windows and cpu-tweaker reads 50, 50, 51 again

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

Not sure then? Maybe just a glitch with CPU tweaker possibly?

I will see how it acts using similar simple tests on my board as you did above and let you know.

You do have them manually set correct? If not then you likely do not have any issues, just AUTO Playing havoc on you is all. Manually set them and see if they always are the same.

Like I said I will do a few tests myself tonight for you to see if I notice the same

[GHz]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

thanks for offering to test lsd

yeah i just have the RTL set to auto at the moment as i have been unable to find any sort of guidelines for them. (has anyone seen any info or have any links please?)
i was just looking to see what the board sets to try and get some kind of idea before going the manual route.

but despite them being set to auto, i would have thought that it should still have only one set of calculated values since i am not changing anything else

i'll try setting them manually later and see what happens...

[Anpheus]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

I have an EX58-UD4P, and S3 sleep is not working for me at 175 BCLK. I click my mouse or hit a key on my keyboard and they light up, but the system does not resume.

Edit: I suppose I should clarify other BIOS settings. I have an i7 920 with all the advanced options on, EIST/turbo/etc. My multiplier is 20+1 for a top speed of 3675MHz. My RAM is running at 8:2 for 1400MHz, with 8-8-8-24 timings. The uncore multiplier is at 17 for 2975MHz. The CPU voltage is set to "Normal," the memory voltage is "1.64V" and the rest of the settings are Auto. I use AHCI, not much else I can think of that might be relevant.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

thanks for offering to test lsd

yeah i just have the RTL set to auto at the moment as i have been unable to find any sort of guidelines for them. (has anyone seen any info or have any links please?)
i was just looking to see what the board sets to try and get some kind of idea before going the manual route.

but despite them being set to auto, i would have thought that it should still have only one set of calculated values since i am not changing anything else

i'll try setting them manually later and see what happens...

Ahh well Auto values can drastically change from boot to boot, that is why it is not suggested. If you are using All Auto's for memory timings then that could be why things change from time to time.

I do not know of any guides on setting those, but I did see this post a week or so ago where a few users are doing some testing with a DFI board >>
http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-ut-x58-t...cussion-16970/

Should give you some insight

I have an EX58-UD4P, and S3 sleep is not working for me at 175 BCLK. I click my mouse or hit a key on my keyboard and they light up, but the system does not resume.

What BIOS are you using? And did you properly flash to that BIOS? If you are using F7e, F8a, or F9a it should be working properly enough for you to resume as long as you are stable

If you are using an older BIOS then mentioned above that is why it is not working for you. Please use one of those and you should be ok. You also have to set the BIOS to be able to wake/power up from mouse on double click

From your comments it sounds like you are either using an older BIOS or you are not as stable as you had thought

*EDIT*

CPU Voltage Normal, do not use. Manually find and set a stable voltage for your CPU.

What ram are you using? I ask because depending on your board and BIOS Version 1.64 ram voltage may actually only be 1.62-1.63 so you may need to set 1.66

[GHz]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

Ahh well Auto values can drastically change from boot to boot, that is why it is not suggested. If you are using All Auto's for memory timings then that could be why things change from time to time.

I do not know of any guides on setting those, but I did see this post a week or so ago where a few users are doing some testing with a DFI board >>
DFI UT X58 - tRRD, RTL, tFAW timing discussion.

Should give you some insight

thanks for the link lsd :)

interesting that the R2E likes C to be B+2...
need to find some spare time for mem/stability testing to try and find out what this UD5 likes

[The Doors]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

try a bootable usb/floppy disk and SPIFlash.exe

Thanks, updated succesfully

[KendiRR]

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Has anyone tried the latest GA-EX58-UD3R bios (GA-EX58-UD3R - F7a)? I am having an issue that when I disable hyperthreading I can not boot (even into the BIOS). It just starts for a few seconds and then stops, over and over. I have not overclocked anything yet. I have disabled all the power saving features, as well as turbo. But when I add hyperthreading to the disabled list, I get the repeated re-boot. Tonight I am going to load the latest release BIOS and see if I have any issues with that. Just thought I would post about my issue to see if anyone else has it (or knows what might be causing it).

Thanks.

[speedy2721]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

Has anyone tried the latest GA-EX58-UD3R bios (GA-EX58-UD3R - F7a)? I am having an issue that when I disable hyperthreading I can not boot (even into the BIOS). It just starts for a few seconds and then stops, over and over. I have not overclocked anything yet. I have disabled all the power saving features, as well as turbo. But when I add hyperthreading to the disabled list, I get the repeated re-boot. Tonight I am going to load the latest release BIOS and see if I have any issues with that. Just thought I would post about my issue to see if anyone else has it (or knows what might be causing it).

Thanks.

I have the same exact problem, and if I remember correctly it happened to me before on another BIOS version, but I don't remember which one.

[KendiRR]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

I have the same exact problem, and if I remember correctly it happened to me before on another BIOS version, but I don't remember which one.

Thanks for the confirmation Speedy. I went back to F6 and all is well (at least with respect to HT).

[Anpheus]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

What BIOS are you using? And did you properly flash to that BIOS? If you are using F7e, F8a, or F9a it should be working properly enough for you to resume as long as you are stable

If you are using an older BIOS then mentioned above that is why it is not working for you. Please use one of those and you should be ok. You also have to set the BIOS to be able to wake/power up from mouse on double click

From your comments it sounds like you are either using an older BIOS or you are not as stable as you had thought

*EDIT*

CPU Voltage Normal, do not use. Manually find and set a stable voltage for your CPU.

What ram are you using? I ask because depending on your board and BIOS Version 1.64 ram voltage may actually only be 1.62-1.63 so you may need to set 1.66

Sorry for the delayed reply, I can't believe I didn't specify my BIOS. Previously I had been running F8a with stability in IntelBurnTest, Windows, etc. But with F9a, I noticed significant instability. For one thing, with the exact same settings as before, I could not pass the Windows Experience Index test. (The one that gives your computer a "base score" and several component subscores.) This was very frustrating.

I typically ran a 160BCLK and 1600MHz memory, and this was fine. But this past week I upgraded to F9a and noticed instability, and figuring this was a memory issue, I switched to 175/1400MHz. With this, I was stable enough to pass IntelBurnTest or the Windows Experience Index testing, but still could not sleep. Now I've gone back to 160/1600, but increased my timings from 8-8-8-24 to 9-9-9-27. But I still cannot sleep. So, to summarize:

Going from F8a to F9a, I had to increase memory timings or decrease memory multiplier to maintain the same level of stability I had in F8a, and I lost S3 sleep capability even having regained stability by tweaking other settings.

So I believe F9a broke sleep mode. To test this, tonight I will install F8a again with my current settings (160BCLK, 10:2 memory multiplier, turbo and all advanced options, 9-9-9-24 timings, etc.)

Edit and addendum: setting CPU voltage to Normal reduces my idle temps significantly as opposed to Auto or manually setting the suggested 'Normal' value.

[shady]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

I was using EX-58 UD4. Previously, with BIOS F5b, I can do 170bclk, 1.125V Vcore and all other voltages at normal value stable with LinX and all stress testing programs. Sleep is also working perfectly.

After flashing to official F5 BIOS, I cant wake up from sleep anymore with the same settings. I can pass LinX and stress testing. Tried upping the voltage but still no changes. I guess F5 BIOS is no good for me. Anyone facing this problem?

Btw, Intel SATA AHCI is super slow. My mobo is using 1.07 dated 2006. I have other boards like ASUS and SATA devices can be deteced in instance. Any fix for this.

[Octopuss]

Re: Gigabyte Latest BIOS

We have to be patient, Stasio said they will update the AHCI ROM sooner or later :)
(damn I can't take the waiting anymore :D)