Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

[losse]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

The ram I'm using is this:
Newegg.com - OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

Here are my settings:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.?
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.13GHz


Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: disabled 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: auto

C.I.A.2 .................................:Disabled


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: ?
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: ? 
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: ?
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: ?


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: turbo
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: auto
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
System Memory Multiplier ..............: auto
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: auto

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................4
tWTR..........................................4
tWR............................................6
tRFC...........................................72
tRTP...........................................4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................?

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:4 auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:5
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:?
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:?

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.325V
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.55V

CPU Referen.…………....0.0805V

CPU Reference2………,,?

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V
MCH Reference….…….0.805V
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......?
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V
ICH Core…………...……1.100V

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V
DRAM Termination .…?
Channel A Reference ?
Channel B Reference ?

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect............: Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: enabled
C2/C2E State Support....................: ?
x C4/C4E State Support..................: ?
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: Enabled
CPU EIST Function.........................: enabled
Virtualization Technology................: enabled

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............enabled

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

K, these are optimal ranges for stock only

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.13GHz


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: disabled
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:Disabled


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: ?
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: ?
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: ?
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: ?


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: Standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 266 or Auto
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.00A
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: Manual

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15/18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-4
tWTR..........................................3-6
tWR............................................4-6
tRFC...........................................52-62
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................? << Are you using the latest BIOS, if so did you load and apply optimized after you flashed? If so and still you do not see this try on the MAIN BIOS page Control + F1 and then go into MIT and see if you see it. Your board just may not offer it, do you have the cmd clock pull up/down pages? 1066-1200

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................6-12 (A & B Should match)
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:6-12
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:?
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:?

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.325V
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.55V Set to stock manually

CPU Referen.…………....0.0805V

CPU Reference2………,,?

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V <<< 1.2-1.3 for 2x2GB
MCH Reference….…….0.805V
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......?
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V
ICH Core…………...……1.100V

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V 2.0-2.15
DRAM Termination .…?
Channel A Reference ?
Channel B Reference ?

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect............: Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: enabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: Enabled
CPU EIST Function.........................: enabled
Virtualization Technology................: enabled

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............enabled

[losse]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

I updated to your recommended settings. I haven't run any tests yet, but it seems to be running fine.

I looked again and found that my Driving Strength Profiles are set for auto.

If I wanted to do a modest OC on my CPU/ram what's the best way to go about doing it to get the most out of it with my limited cooling?

Also, do you know what size CPU heat sink will fit on this motherboard or any good ones that will fit?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

Always find time to test, as you can normally use better timings and less volts.

Well you need to see how fast you can go and what temps that is, then decide if you think you need to go lower for less voltage or not. Then all you do is tighten up the ram

Most any Heatsink would be good, all depends on your case and $$ you want to spend. ThermalRight Ultra 120 Extreme, Xigmatek, Tuniq Tower 120 are all good for around 40-60 bucks, but you need to look at them and your case and see what would fit

[losse]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

1. Do you guys have any idea what was wrong with my computer or what short-circuiting those pins did?

2. Is it possible to power-on my computer using a USB keyboard or mouse as opposed to an SP2?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

All you did was clear the CMOS when you short the pins. Then you should have loaded and applied Optimized defaults and started over again

No, it has to be a PS/2 keyboard or mouse

[losse]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

Whenever I set the System Memory Multiplier to 4A and the Driving Strength profile to 1200MHz, my computer has some problems booting up, and CPU-Z does not show the correct timings for my ram. When I change the System Memory Multiplier to 3A and driving strength profile to 1066MHz, it seems to run much more smoothly, however, it is only going at 800MHz, and my ram is rated at 1066MHz. At 800MHz, it does show the correct timings in CPU-Z. Will running my memory at 800MHz as opposed to 1066MHz affect performance significantly? Is there anything I can do to make my memory run better at 1066MHz and actually show its correct timings?


Setting the system memory multiplier to Auto has the same affect as if I set it to 4A.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

Did you try 4.00B as well. If so, just use 1066 driving strength and whatever memory multi works for you 4.0A or 4.0C

Without you posting your full settings you tried I cannot be sure why it would fail for you

You may need to raise your FSB or set some voltages, again I cannot be sure without seeing your settings

Yes you can run 800, but it will be slower

Please post for me your full settings you try that fail and I will advise you as to what I think may be the cause

[losse]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

I don't have 4.00B as an option apparently. :O Whenever I try 4.00A, 4.00C, or auto all of which give 1066, my computer fails to boot several times before finally starting. When it does finally start correctly, CPU-Z displays incorrect timings for my memory. It shows 5-7-7-20 when my memory is at 1066. Are these signs of stability issues? Here are my current full settings:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.?
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.4GHz


Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: disabled 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 MHz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100 MHz

C.I.A.2 .................................:Disabled


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 700mV
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 700mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 50ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 100ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: disable
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.00A
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: Manual

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................4
tWTR..........................................4
tWR............................................5
tRFC...........................................58
tRTP...........................................4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................1066 MHz

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:8
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:8
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:?
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:?

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.325V auto
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V auto
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.55V auto

CPU Referen.…………....0.0805V auto

CPU Reference2………,,?

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.300V
MCH Reference….…….0.805V
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......?
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V
ICH Core…………...……1.100V

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....2.100V
DRAM Termination .…?
Channel A Reference ?
Channel B Reference ?

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protect............: Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: enabled
C2/C2E State Support....................: ?
x C4/C4E State Support..................: ?
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: Enabled
CPU EIST Function.........................: enabled
Virtualization Technology................: enabled

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............enabled

Edit:

Actually, it appears to boot fine with the 4.00C multiplier after that initial struggle that occurred right after I changed my settings. It still shows my timings as 5-7-7-20, but it is booting up on its first attempt after power downs. Is it normal for a system to have problems booting only immediately after changing this multiplier?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Big Problems after attempting small OC on GA-EP43-DS3L

Well a Double reboot is normal as it has to boot twice to switch straps and often times many other things. A double is normal, a triple is not and means incorrect settings, timings, voltages, ect. Your timings are 577-20 because You set something wrong and that is now in Auto

If you see a red warning box when you enter MIT then incorrect settings were used previously and all the settings you see in there are NOT being used, and the board is using Defaults from Optimized but showing your settings still.

You should be seeing and using A or B (For higher FSB) straps A for sure should be there as that is your stock CPU FSB.

I see you say you cannot see B, do you see C? How about if you manually set MCH Strap to 333 and then just choose 4.00 which would be 4.00B

Or just use 4.00A (And if you do not see it, then set MCH to 266/1066 and use 4.00 which would be 4.00A)

Did you ever load optimized defaults with this CPU installed, just wondering. Your CPU is only a 1066/266 CPU but with your FSB overclocked you should be able to choose B for sure but maybe not?

Yes, it is normal for things to fail as well if you choose the wrong (Too Tight) of a strap, you should use A for 266 FSB and B for 333. C is too tight for sure

Here try this for 3Ghz >>>>

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
CPU Frequency ...........................: 33GHz


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: Enabled
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:Disabled


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: Stock
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: Stock
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................:0-150 (50)
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50-150 (150)


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: Standard
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 266 or Auto or 333
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.00A if 333 above use 3.20 here
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066MHz
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: Manual

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................15/18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-4
tWTR..........................................3-6
tWR............................................4-6
tRFC...........................................52-62
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................1066-1200

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.325V << Will need more likely and what you set is not what you get in windows. So check with CPU-z and keep that in mind. You may need 1.35-1.4 or more for 3Ghz

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V -1.45
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.55V Set to stock manually

CPU Referen.…………...Auto

CPU Reference2………,Auto

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V <<< 1.2-1.3 for 2x2GB
MCH Reference….…….Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V
ICH Core…………...……1.100V

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V 2.0-2.15
DRAM Termination .…Auto
Channel A Reference Auto
Channel B Reference Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............enabled