GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

[nikgolas]

CPU Intel Q9400
RAM KHX8500AD2/2G
M/b GA ep45-DS3
Graphic card MSI GTX 260 896Mb


Can you give me a rundown on what settings I should have for good performance? My main issue is the memory shows up as ddr2800 and I can't figure out what to do to get it to show up as 1066. I know the timings should be 7-7-7-20 and it should be set to 2.0volts.

Thanks in advance
Nikos

[VorLonUK]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

As far as i'm aware 800Mhz is the highest official Jedec Frequency for DDR2, hence many Memory Manufacturers enter that in the memory's SPD data, so that the PC may boot etc and the motherboard knows what it is.

However Ram that is rated higher than 800Mhz by the manufacturers, has to often be set manually to that higher value.

So you probably need to take your Memory Multiplier from Auto (2.40 probably) ie 333 x 2.40 = 800Mhz to,

3.20, ie 333 x 3.20 = 1066Mhz

[nikgolas]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

Thank you for the quick reply but I,ve already tried that and the Pc doesn't boot after that change,I think that more changes are needed but I don't know which.

[VorLonUK]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

Have you looked here:-

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/memory-timings-explained-w-suggested-timings-memset-vs-bios-27283/

EDIT:

What bios are you using?

Having a quick look at the Gigabyte page for your board, two releases F6 & F7 (now on F9) specifically addressed memory compatability.

[nikgolas]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

I use the F9 Bios.The problem is that I tried to do what the lonk says -as much as I understand- but the PC doesn't boot

[VorLonUK]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

You could try another multiplier, although it may not result in your target speed, but it will help you identify where the limitations start.

Have you any multipliers between between 2.40 and 3.20 in the list/options in the bios? - you could try those.

You will no doubt have to fine tune your board to get your memory to run at 1066Mhz.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

Likely your issue with just changing that memory multiplier is that you first need to set Performance Enhance to Standard, and then set the memory voltage manually.

Please post me your full settings you are using now and I will advise back for you some settings for 1066 speeds >>>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]
Voltage Type.………... Manual
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[nikgolas]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

Thank you for your quick response
Here is your template filled with your data


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8 x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66(333x8)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................6 Auto
tRCD .........................................6 Auto
tRP'...........................................6 Auto
tRAS..........................................18 Auto

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-5
tWTR..........................................3-6
tWR............................................6-6
tRFC...........................................52-62
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0-2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................1066

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:8-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:8-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage ControlCPUMCH/ICHAdvanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]</pre></pre>

[VorLonUK]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

As per LsdMe's post above, change your "Performance Enhance" setting from Turbo to Standard

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

Right, that is a huge issue. Here is optimal ranges for your ram >>>

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8 x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66(333x8)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.20
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................7
tRCD .........................................7
tRP'...........................................7
tRAS..........................................20

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-5
tWTR..........................................3-6
tWR............................................4-6
tRFC...........................................52-62
tRTP...........................................3-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................1066-1200

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:8-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:8-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.21250 v
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V
CPU Referen.…………....0.760V


MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V (if 2x2GB use 1.2-1.3)
MCH Reference….…….0.760V
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V << 2.0V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V
Channel A Reference 0.900V
Channel B Reference 0.900V
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]

[nikgolas]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

Thank you for your replays but the PC doesn't boot after this changes to BIOS

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA ep45-ds3 +kingston Ram issue

Post me what exactly you set so I can see maybe why it fails