Help with GA-EP45-UD3P settings, S3 sleep and 400+ fsb not working!

[ssabripo]

Hi fellas.....long time lurker, but decided to start posting:

I just replaced my Asus P5Q Pro with the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P, and installed vista ultimate x64, and so far so good, except for two issues:

1. S3 Sleep mode not working: crash (blank screen) after wakeup
2. Cannot get system stable for Overclocking above 400fsb

here is my setup:
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2 x WD 3200AAKS Sata2 drives
1 x WD 2500KS Sata drive
1 x Asus DVD-RW/CD-RW sata
Radeon X1900XT 512mb
4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 DDR2-800
Thermaltake 750W gamers PSU

S3 sleep mode crashing:
as with most of you with EP46-DS3R boards (prior to bios update), when I go into S3 mode, the front panel LED doesn't blink (which it should), and when I wake it up, the Board crashes (Fans are running at full speed instead of normal speed, no video, CPU dead, etc). Even the rest button doesn't work, so I have to do a hard reboot.

I manually set the RAM timings to 4-4-4-12 at 2.0v as the manufacturer suggested. I changed it all back to default Auto, and still same thing. I tried to manually set the voltages a couple of % values higher, and still same thing.

I haven't tried disabling the Load Line Calibration yet (as mentioned in this thread), but I will.

Do you guys have any recommendations of what else to try? I really am liking this board, and really want to keep it, but with my schedule + kids, I usually leave several apps open, and just put the PC into S3 sleep mode so that i can use resume my work quickly....it is a good feature for me, and would hate to return this board because it doesn't work.

any recommendations are appreciated!

Overclocking Settings
I tried to set the following:
Vcore = 1.275
FSB = 410
RAM timings: 4-4-4-12
Vram = 2.02v
everything else in auto

system doesn't pass Prime95, and when in conjunction with the S3 problem, at reboot the BIOS tells me that Overclocking failed, thus needing to reset it.

can any of you experts recommend settings for me for this particular combination of hardware?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Help with GA-EP45-UD3P settings, S3 sleep and 400+ fsb not working!

I replied to you here, please do see my reply there as well as it differs >>>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ga-ep45-ds3r-unstable-after-sending-s3-str-sleep-state-27296/index22.html

You may want to check out this informative sleep guide for vista >>>
Troubleshooting Microsoft Windows Vista Sleep and Hibernate

But as with all Gigabyte boards, it seems you always have to wait for the BIOS update to fix it. Best to start emailing Tech Support now to get the ball rolling on this

I do see some issues with your settings, everything in Auto is not going to work for 4x1GB

Please post me back your settings you are using and I will advise, many things need manually set for 4x1, and this could be your issue with S3 and not a BIOS problem >>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]
Voltage Type.………... Manual
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[ssabripo]

Re: Help with GA-EP45-UD3P settings, S3 sleep and 400+ fsb not working!

thanks LSD...I will fill that template out this afternoon for you. I'm looking your other reply as well.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Help with GA-EP45-UD3P settings, S3 sleep and 400+ fsb not working!

I have posted there, Ill see ya tonight or tomorrow as I may be leaving soon

[ssabripo]

Re: Help with GA-EP45-UD3P settings, S3 sleep and 400+ fsb not working!

here is my BIOS changes, in Red:

[B][U]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/U][/B]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [COLOR=Red]Auto[/COLOR]
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [COLOR=Red]9x[/COLOR]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.[COLOR=Red]0[/COLOR]
CPU Frequency ...........................: [COLOR=Red]3.60ghz[/COLOR] (400x9)


[B][U]Clock Chip Control [/U][/B]
[B][U]Standard Clock Control[/U][/B]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: [COLOR=Red]400 [/COLOR]Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to [COLOR=Red]100[/COLOR][/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[B][U]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/U][/B]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: [COLOR=Red]900mV [/COLOR]<<< 
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [COLOR=Red]900mV [/COLOR]<<< 
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [COLOR=Red]0ps [/COLOR]<<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [COLOR=Red]0ps [/COLOR]<<< 


[B][U]DRAM Performance Control[/U][/B]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: [COLOR=Red]Auto[/COLOR]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: [COLOR=Red]800 [/COLOR](set by auto I suppose)
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[B]Standard Timing Control[/B]
CAS Latency Time........................ [COLOR=Red]4[/COLOR]
tRCD ......................................... [COLOR=Red]4[/COLOR]
tRP'........................................... [COLOR=Red]4[/COLOR]
tRAS.......................................... [COLOR=Red]12[/COLOR]

[B][U]Advanced Timing Control[/U][/B]
tRRD........................................... [COLOR=Red]3 [Auto][/COLOR]
tWTR.......................................... [COLOR=Red]3 [Auto][/COLOR]
tWR............................................ [COLOR=Red]6 [Auto][/COLOR]
tRFC........................................... [COLOR=Red]57[/COLOR]
tRTP........................................... [COLOR=Red]3 [Auto][/COLOR]
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: [COLOR=Red]0 [Auto][/COLOR]

[U][B]Driving Strength Profiles[/B][/U]
Driving Strength ............................

[B]Channel A[/B]
Static tRead Value.........................:[COLOR=Red] 8[/COLOR]
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[B]Channel B[/B]
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[B][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/B]
Load-Line Calibratio ......................: [COLOR=Red]Disabled[/COLOR]
Voltage Type.���... Manual
[B]CPU[/B]
CPU Vcore�.���.........................: [COLOR=Red]1.286000[/COLOR]
CPU Termination�..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL�������....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Referen.����....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
CPU Reference2���,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

[B]MCH/ICH[/B]
MCH Core�����.....1.100V...........: [COLOR=Red]1.34 v[/COLOR] << 
MCH Reference�.��.0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.�......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O������.....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core����...��1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ��....1.800V............: [COLOR=Red]2.04 v[/COLOR]
DRAM Termination .�0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[B][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/B]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

[B][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/B]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[[COLOR=Red]enabled[/COLOR]] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[/quote]

let me know what you think!

[ssabripo]

Re: Help with GA-EP45-UD3P settings, S3 sleep and 400+ fsb not working!

btw, looks like S3 is now working (at least it has 3 times in a row)....I think the Trfc value, and the MCH core to 1.34v did the trick.

keeping fingers crossed!

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Help with GA-EP45-UD3P settings, S3 sleep and 400+ fsb not working!

K, Nice to see you got it going! I thought it may have just been some settings, it normally is especially if you are using Auto for many things. Auto is setup for 2x1 and just so users can get in the BIOS with most any hardware long enough to make necessary changes.

I would say you can likely back off the MCH voltage a bit (Maybe 1.2-1.25, but maybe not trfc though.

Here is suggested settings for ya if you want to tweak things later for best performance>>>>

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast or Turbo
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.60ghz (400x9)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400 Mhz << I would suggest 402 or so, that way you are not right on the 400/1600 strap line

PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 900mV <<<
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mV <<<
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps <<< 100-200


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto] <<< 333 or 400 (333 will allow Static tRead of 7 and lower, 400 will not) When/If you set this please set only Static tRead to a respective amount and change this only then reboot to change any other memory settings. Point being to make as little changes as you can when changing straps

System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00 (400FSB x 2.00=800Mhz Ram Speed)
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 (set by auto I suppose)
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 4
tRCD ......................................... 4
tRP'........................................... 4
tRAS.......................................... 12

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 3 [Auto] (3-5)
tWTR.......................................... 3 [Auto] (3-5 ~ May need 12 to boot thru first time if you change this)

tWR............................................ 6 [Auto] (4-6 ~ May need 14 to boot thru first time if you change this)

tRFC........................................... 57 (48-50 Tweaked, Suggested for 41 52-62)
tRTP........................................... 3 [Auto] (3-5)
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0 [Auto] << Set to 2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ 800-1066< 1066 may be best, why did you not fill this out, is it not in your BIOS or did you just not set it? Just wondering as I see it in your BIOS

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................: 8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:8 << Please set both channels of this to the same, just so you dont forget later if you add ram. So set 8. (333 MCH Strap will allow 5-7 depending on ram's tolerance/Quality, 400 MCH latch will need 8 or above likely)

tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Load-Line Calibratio ......................: Disabled
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.286000
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<<1.2-1.3 (once you set this, the reference voltages will self adjust below in auto or manual they will be changed by themselves. For your Overclock I would say you may not need much, if your CPU tends to be unstable add a little at a time. Likely 1.24 would be good. I use 1.32-1.34 for 450 FSB and I still think I can bring mine down, just havent had time. And again you may not need any, but I would set it to 1.2 and not leave in auto. Then check CPU Stability and adjust if needed

CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< 1.5 << Please set, Auto tends to overvolt this
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.34 v << likely can come down to 1.2-1.25 or so, but do this and test first before you start making ram changes and get lost as to what it causing your failures
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.04 v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave