GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

[evolart]

Thermaltake Armor Jr.
GA-EP45-DS3L f9 BIOS
Q6600 G0 stepping
Asus Silent Knight HSF
OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 (OCZ2RPR10664GK)
Enermax 465w
8800 GTS 512mb
Vista 64-bit

I've read everything I can possible read in these forums tonight and have been messing with bios settings constantly. Before I get into any overclocking I would really like to be able to get my ram set at its correct settings. Problem there is whenever I set the standard timing controls to:

5-5-5-18 with MCH Core to 1.3 or 1.4
DRAM Voltage to 2.1v

the computer reboots 3 times and puts me back to the settings it worked with originally (5-7-7-20 or some crap). I followed LSD's settings for someone with a very similar setup to mine but still no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated...hope I supplied the right info.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

Set these voltages and then reboot >>>
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.25

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1

Then set Driving strength profile to 1066 and reboot

Then Set MCH latch to 400 only then reboot. Then set trd to 9 and reboot, then you can work on the rest. If 400 fails at this point, try 333.

Start here >>>
tWTR.......................................... 12
tWR............................................14
tRFC...........................................62

Then after that you should be able to enter the rest of your timings, and lower those as well

[evolart]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

I was able to set MCH Core to 1.24 or 1.26 with DRAM Voltage at 2.1 and the computer POSTed and booted. I do not have an option for 1.25 for MCH Core.

Went on to the next step and set the RAM timings to manual, changed the Driving strength profile to 1066 and nothing else. Computer would not POST. Tried a few other things but eventually reset it back to MCH Core 1.26 and DRAM Voltage 2.1 and that is currently where I am.

Here is what Everest shows currently:

Memory Timings:
CAS Latency (CL) 5T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 5T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 5T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 15T
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 72T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
RAS To RAS Delay (tRRD) 4T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 14T
Read To Read Delay (tRTR) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 8T
Read To Write Delay (tRTW) 9T
Write To Read Delay (tWTR) Same Rank: 12T, Different Rank: 7T
Write To Write Delay (tWTW) Same Rank: 4T, Different Rank: 8T
Read To Precharge Delay (tRTP) 6T
Write To Precharge Delay (tWTP) 14T
Precharge To Precharge Delay (tPTP) 1T
Refresh Period (tREF) 4160T
DRAM Read ODT 3T
DRAM Write ODT 6T
MCH Read ODT 11T
Performance Level 7
Read Delay Phase Adjust Neutral
DIMM1 Clock Fine Delay 8T
DIMM2 Clock Fine Delay 6T
DIMM3 Clock Fine Delay 9T

--------[ SPD ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[ DIMM2: OCZ Reaper HPC OCZ2RPR10662G ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name OCZ Reaper HPC OCZ2RPR10662G
Serial Number None
Module Size 2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-800 (400 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 400 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 24-54-3-6-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 333 MHz 4-5-5-13 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 20-45-3-5-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 3-4-4-10 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-36-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Enhanced Performance Profile:
Profile Name High Frequency
Optimal Performance Profile Yes
Memory Speed DDR2-1066 (533 MHz)
Voltage 2.1 V
Memory Timings 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 26T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 6T

Memory Module Manufacturer:
Company Name OCZ Technology
Product Information http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/

[ DIMM4: OCZ Reaper HPC OCZ2RPR10662G ]

Memory Module Properties:
Module Name OCZ Reaper HPC OCZ2RPR10662G
Serial Number None
Module Size 2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-800 (400 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings:
@ 400 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 24-54-3-6-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 333 MHz 4-5-5-13 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 20-45-3-5-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 3-4-4-10 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-36-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Enhanced Performance Profile:
Profile Name High Frequency
Optimal Performance Profile Yes
Memory Speed DDR2-1066 (533 MHz)
Voltage 2.1 V
Memory Timings 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 26T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 6T


--------[ Motherboard ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 09/22/2008-P45-ICH10-7A89PG0IC-00
Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L

Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type Intel AGTL+
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 267 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 1067 MHz
Bandwidth 8533 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type Dual DDR2 SDRAM
Bus Width 128-bit
DRAM:FSB Ratio 16:8
Real Clock 533 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 1067 MHz
Bandwidth 17067 MB/s


--------[ CPU ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CPU Properties:
CPU Type QuadCore Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, 2400 MHz (9 x 267)
CPU Alias Kentsfield
CPU Stepping G0
Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3
Original Clock 2400 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 6x / 9x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Code Cache 32 KB per core
L1 Data Cache 32 KB per core
L2 Cache 2x 4 MB (On-Die, ECC, ASC, Full-Speed)

Multi CPU:
Motherboard ID OEM00000 PROD00000000
CPU #1 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
CPU #2 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
CPU #3 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz
CPU #4 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz

CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 775 Contact LGA
Package Size 3.75 cm x 3.75 cm
Transistors 582 million
Process Technology 8M, 65 nm, CMOS, Cu, Low-K Inter-Layer, 2nd Gen Strained Si
Die Size 286 mm2
Core Voltage 1.325 V
I/O Voltage 1.325 V
Typical Power 130 W
Maximum Power 168.8 W

[evolart]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

*****UPDATE*****

Got it working....not sure how exactly but after tweaking for awhile I'm not at correct stock settings. All settings you suggested are working now. Now could you help me with some overclocking? What info do you need?

[mattlyall06]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

read the sticky man, lsd covers everything you need to know about overclocking.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

Glad to see you finally got it working. Ya P45 seems a bit tricky for sure when you first try to get things going.


Please post back what settings you are using for sure now so I know, and what you would like to run at >>>


This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............:
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................:


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<<
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<<
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............:
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .61% Of Vtt (Termination above)
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: <<
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

[evolart]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

Thx LSD - I read your OCing guide and was able to get to 2.8GHz and it was kinda iffy stable. While messing with some more options trying to get it to stay stable it wiped out all my settings >.< Had to spend the next 20 minutes getting my settings back for the ram =P

I tried making a backup of the BIOS with QFlash but it did not backup the settings...just the stock BIOS like I thought it would. This board doesn't have the CMOS profiles option like you mentioned. Would be really nice to have.

Anyways when I get home tonight I will fill in the template and let you know what I'm running at.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

Do you know you can use BIOS profiles? F11 is Save on the MAIN page, and F12 is load. This will help you out alot, be sure to arrow down as you save and name more then one profile so you dont overwrite them

Qflash will save your profiles if you have some in there. Just so you know for next time

It does have them, sorry I didnt read till now your last statement. You MUST be on the MAIN page of the BIOS and hit the hotkeys

[evolart]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

You are awesome - sweet didn't see that last time I was messing around there. Got my current working settings saved to floppy and the BIOS. Very sweet feature.

I will post my settings later tonight have them all written down just don't have time to type it up.

[evolart]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

I would like to just attempt 3GHz at this time...don't really think I need more than that, but after getting that stable I'm sure I can tweak it a bit.

Here are my current settings:

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: -[Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: -266Mhz
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: -Not available
CPU Frequency ...........................: -2.40GHz (266x9)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 800
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Auto
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400Mhz
System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD........................................... 9
tWTR.......................................... 12
tWR............................................ 14
tRFC........................................... 62
tRTP........................................... 5
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................: 8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Driving Settings Channel A and B

Driving Profile 1066MHz
Auto everything else


Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.2500V ( Processor VID is 1.325 =\ )
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Auto
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Auto
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< Not available

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.240V
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< At 0.760V [AUTO]
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< At 1.550V [AUTO]
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< [AUTO]
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Not available

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Not sure
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Not sure
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Not sure

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3L / OCZ Reaper 4GB 1066 Kit (RAM timings problem)

OK, for 3Ghz try these settings >>>>>

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: -[Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: -333Mhz
CPU Frequency ...........................: -3.00GHz (333x9)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 800-900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 50-100ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 50-200ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 333Mhz You may also test 400, but may not work. If you do use it, Static tRead will need to be above 8. If you change this, change ONLY this and save and apply and reboot back to the BIOS to change the rest. Same applies with Static tRead Value

System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.20
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................3-5
tWTR.......................................... 3-6 (8-12)
tWR............................................ 4-6 (8-14)
tRFC........................................... 62
tRTP........................................... 5
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:8-10 (7 may work with the 333 Strap)
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................: 8-10 (7 may work with the 333 Strap)
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Driving Settings Channel A and B

Driving Profile 1066MHz

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.35-1.5 << First, your board's Vdroop will make what you set be about .6 less. So you may need less or more depending on your chip. Example, you set 1.45 in the BIOS, in windows you will only be using about 1.39 and less at load. So set it high, then lower later

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.35-1.6
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< 1.5-1.6
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< Not available

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.240V
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< At 0.760V [AUTO]
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< At 1.550V [AUTO]
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< [AUTO]
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Not available

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Not sure
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Not sure
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Not sure

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]