IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

[Jamie74]

I connected my Benq DW1655 CD/DVD burner to the IDE connector on my GA-EP35C-DS3R motherboard. In Windows Device Manager (Vista Home Premium 64bit) it shows up as a SCSI device.
So far I have found info on the internet that this might have something to do with the JMicron chipset, and that it is nothing to worry about. That's fine, but..... it takes my DVD drive about 40 minutes to rip a DVD movie to hard disk! The same drive was previously installed on my old computer and there it read about 4 times faster!
What can I do to solve this problem? Some say I should disable the JMicron controller, but others say that I need this controller to keep my RAID1 array working. My OS and my data files are on this RAID1 array and I do not want to risk losing them.
I'm curious if anyone can shed a little light on this issue.

[Jamie74]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

I found some info on other forums, but before I try them I thought I'd ask the specialists first...

Option 1<o:p>Option 2</o:p>

1. Go to "device manager"<o:p></o:p>
2. Expand the "storage controllers" node<o:p></o:p>
3. Right click on "JMicron JMB36x" device and select "update driver software"<o:p></o:p>
4. Select "browse my computer for driver software"<o:p></o:p>
5. Select "let me pick from a list..."
6. Select "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller"<o:p></o:p>
7. Commit the changes and restart your Vista<o:p></o:p>
8. Voila!<o:p></o:p>

<o:p>Option 3</o:p>

Uninstall (in control panel-system-device manager, right click on dv drive, 'uninstall') and (turn it off) completely, physically, unhook the burner. Then hook it all up again (restart, turn it off, plug in the cables, restart). Vista should have no problem finding the right driver.

<o:p> Any thoughts, anyone?</o:p>

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

Option 3 sounds best(Now that you edited 2 and added 3. BACKUP First though

In option 3 you would not need to worry about backing up data. And I woudl do it in safe mode, so vista does not install the same driver. Then choose update thru the internet

But what board do you have, and where do you have your RAID installed? If it is on the Purple ports then ok. But if it is on the Yellow ports then you have no worries if your IDE is indeed controlled by The GA/J.Micron Chip

Do you have the intel chipset drivers installed? I ask because I have my IDE cd/dvd drives plugged in on IDE Cable and my OS in RAID 0 on my Purple ports and my IDE drives are controlled by the Microsoft drivers shown in device manager

[Jamie74]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

Board is GA-EP35C-DS3R.
I have two Samsung Spinpoint 640GB SATA harddisks connected to the first 2 YELLOW SATA-connectors on the board. During the first startup (before I installed Vista) I pressed CTRL-I and configured them as RAID1. I must admit that I have no idea what chipset was involved. Next, I created 2 partitions on the RAID1 array during the Vista install.

Does this change your advice? Also, did you get a chance to read option 3 (I added it later)?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

OK, well then most of what you mentioned should not apply to you, as you installed your RAID onto the Intel controller (Yellow Ports - ICH9R Driver) Not GA/J.Micron (GBB36X-Driver), so you should not have installed the Gigabyte/J.Micron driver at all anyway. It is for the purple ports, and would not work with the yellow ones.

So Yes, I would still choose option 3. Just wanted to let you know that your issue is not the same as the above quoted one about the Gigabyte/J.Micron driver

3 will get you the right one, but like I said do it in Safe Mode. Also choose to Delete the driver as you uninstall if it asks

[Jamie74]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

Thanks a lot. Again! I will try this when I'm back behind my own system tonight.

After installing Vista, I installed the drivers from the CD that came with my board. Should I uninstall the JMicron driver if I don't use it? If so, where and how?
And my final question (for now...): could this have anything to do with any RAID/AHCI/IDE settings in BIOS?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

Well it could possibly. Post a image of your settings if you would like me to see them first. The Purple Port (Gigabyte/J.Micron) settings are in the middle of the Integrated Peripherals Page of the BIOS, and the Intel Yellow ones are at the top of that page.

You would want the Intel Top ones set like so >>>
SATA RAID/AHCI Mode ......................RAID
Sata port0-3Native Mode..................................Disabled

And the Gigabyte Middle ones set like so >>>
Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode ................. Enabled
Onboard SATACtrl Mode ............................IDE (Unless you want to have RAID or AHCI disks ALSO on the purple SATA ports, then AHCI or RAID Here as well, Physical IDE Devices will always be PATA(IDE) no matter what and will function as long as the setting above is set to Enabled. Disabled they will not function)

I do see The Gigabyte Controller does indeed control the IDE as far as settings in the BIOS, but for what we are discussing here it is irrelevant as far as drivers are concerned anyway. The only GA/J.Micron driver there is would be for AHCI or RAID on that chip, thus your or your system would not have ever installed it.

[Jamie74]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

Not GA/J.Micron (GBB36X-Driver), so you should not have installed the Gigabyte/J.Micron driver at all anyway.

Thanks for the advice. But how do I get rid of the GBB36X driver if I do not need it?
Yesterday evening I tried something but that appeared to be rather stupid... I uninstalled the GBB36X driver from Device Control. After that, many things happened in the list of Device Control: my "SCSI" DVD-player disappeared and an ATA DVD player appeared, there was a new HD sound device added (???), they shifted a bit from the "unknown devices" category to their correct categories, so all looked quite nice... and then all of a sudden I got this wonderful BSOD after which all I could do was use Windows System Recovery to go back to where I was before I started this all.
It seems like the GBB36X driver is doing more than just control the purple SATA ports, and for some reason my system really likes to keep it. But if in theory I do not need it, then how do I get rid of it?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

You should have used Option 3, like I said. you asked and that would have been the way to do it.

As for how you installed that? Maybe you installed it from the express install off the Motherboard CD?

Ya, it only controls the purple ports. If you do not use them it does not need to be installed at all.

As for you already having it there, and trying to remove it? I am not sure how you could, or if you should? HAHA

I can say a clean install will fix you right up, then if you install drivers off the motherboard CD, do it manually one by one only the ones you NEED. Neither RAID driver/program off the CD is needed once windows is installed, so if you see one uncheck it or do not install it.

Now back to the issue, did you ever do option 3 yet?

[Jamie74]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

You are so right, of course.
You see, it all started with my SCSI/IDE mix-up and then I read that I shouldn't even have installed that stupid GBB36X driver anyway. I figured that I would try option 3 AND remove that awful driver. Unfortunately, I did the driver removal first. After I finally got my system back up and running, it was already past midnight and too late to try option 3.
I think I'll do a complete re-install tonight though. Hope that will solve this once and for all. Sigh, weren't computers supposed to save us work...?

[kcconlin9319]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

I had exactly the same problem on my GA-965P-DQ6. Slow CD/DVD access, terrible burn times followed by a sluggish system (tons of interrupts that required rebooting to eliminate), JRAID error messages in the event log, drive listed as SCSI in Device Manager. Solution for me was to set the Gigabyte/Jmicron controller to RAID instead of IDE in the BIOS, then install the the Gigabyte RAID drivers from the Gigabyte site. After a reboot the burner was immediately recognized as IDE and I haven't had a problem since.

[svcglobal]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

I had exactly the same problem on my GA-965P-DQ6. Slow CD/DVD access, terrible burn times followed by a sluggish system (tons of interrupts that required rebooting to eliminate), JRAID error messages in the event log, drive listed as SCSI in Device Manager. Solution for me was to set the Gigabyte/Jmicron controller to RAID instead of IDE in the BIOS, then install the the Gigabyte RAID drivers from the Gigabyte site. After a reboot the burner was immediately recognized as IDE and I haven't had a problem since.

Did exactly the same here (Gigabyte RAID/IDE BIOS Setup on GA-EP35C-DS3R) in order to have one Optiarc recognized as IDE burner and got its DMA channel in Ultra DMA mode 4.

[VorLonUK]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

Just a note:-

You can install the J Micron driver if you have an IDE DVD/CD on the IDE port (which is controlled by the GB/J Micron controller chip) and select IDE from the J Micron installer. It will then load the specific drivers for that chipset, rather than the OS default.

(My Scenario) MB = GA-P35C-DS3R and GB chipset set to IDE mode in the bios (F11). Liteon Ide Dvdrw works fine in Ultra DMA mode 4.

[Jamie74]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

Sounds interesting! But...

Solution for me was to set the Gigabyte/Jmicron controller to RAID instead of IDE in the BIOS, then install the the Gigabyte RAID drivers from the Gigabyte site.

So, set it in BIOS to RAID.

Did exactly the same here (Gigabyte RAID/IDE BIOS Setup on GA-EP35C-DS3R)

So, set it in BIOS to RAID/IDE.

Are you sure you two are talking about the same setting?
I'm also interested in Lsdmeasap's opinion on this. It sure sounds like it might work. Especially since I now get errors during booting, saying something about a JRAID driver not being verified or something like that (sorry, can't be more specific, I'm not at home at the moment zo I'm doing this by memory. Or lack of memory... ;-) )

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: IDE DVD burner seen as SCSI and sloooooowww...

A RAID setting and or a Raid Driver is not needed at all for IDE DVD drive. You may of course install it if you was using RAID on that chip, but if not A Microsoft one will be installed.

It is a microsoft driver that controls the IDE port if you are not already using RAID on that chip. See my image on page one, Standard Dual Channel IDE controller (Microsoft).

Now, I am not saying the above solutions would not work. But I am saying a fix for a issue is not the Proper method, nor how it Should work

Again, Step 3 is what you want to do. If you are still at that point, if not try the above. Sounds messy with all this messing around, if it was me I would do a proper clean install