GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

If I let it be, nothing happens. The harddrive led shows some activity but nothing more.

So i restart 3-4 times and then it boots up normally.

I've just tried to set the memorys to 4-4-4-12 and 2.0v, and now it seems to be working fine? I've tested 3dmark2006 without errors...11000something points.

But I will try new memorys anyway.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Ya, I would. You ram should likely use 2.0-2.1, but like I sid Crucial does not work well in P35, and is not the best by far anymore and often needs a RMA.

So you would be better off with different ram

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Update!

After some testing I've discovered that one pair was faulty, I did an RMA to Crucial and got a new pair...

But for one week ago my computer crashed, lots of errors on the harddrive according to WinXP. Tested the harddrive (WD Raptor 74GB) with DLG, but no errors found. Tested the memorys as well but no problem?

I reinstalled the OS and updated everything. (please remind me to do a Ghost on my system-disk...)
The computer worked fine, I played games and so. The computer is on 24/7.

But yesterday the same problem happens, I had to restart the computer 4 times before Windows started but some programs was behaving strangely. I reboot the comp. again and then an inconsistency check on the harddrive (C:\) started and it found a lot of errors again...

A few hours later I had to restart the comp. again, but when Windows was about to start a BSOD shows up and restarts the comp.
And thats the current status. I'm getting a bit frustrated here.

I saw in a other message that 4 sticks of memory on my mobo isn't a good idea?

Should I replace them to 2*2GB (Mushkin) instead?

Or is the mobo faulty?

HELP!!!

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

4 sticks is fine, but I can tell you that you now likely have 2 different sets of mismatched ram. Crucial changes chips used often in sets, so your old and new are likely different. They often change chips, which changes the rated voltages needed. And some older are double sided and some newer are double and single sided all using different chips.

What you can do is RMA the other set and tell them you need the exact model # they sent you this time around as a replacement so you have matched pairs. They do not ask questions often for RMA, so just say the other pair has errors as well, and remind them you just had a RMA and need a specific Model # so your sets match up

You can see this by the model #, I assure you they do not match up. So it would pretty much be the same as trying to use 2 different brands. It just wont work out very well.

I have 2x2 and 4x1 sets of Crucial on the way for testing, should be here tomorrow so I will be posting some findings for settings and such on them once I get them tested. This will help for those like you who do like Crucial and Gigabyte.

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Hmm, I'll have to check that. I believe they're matching...

Do you believe that the errors would disappear if I buy Mushkin instead?
2*2GB?

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

I almost Guarantee you they are not. They are too far apart in age to be the same, Crucial Has switched chips used, and single / double sided / And back to single two or three times this year already.

I believe the errors would be gone if you had matching ram, no matter what brand it is

So yes, if you buy some new 2x2 of any brand you will have no errors once you get your settings right. And yes, Mushkin sticks are Great!

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Ok, thank you for your patience for my stupid questions! :D

I'm not sure if i'm going to run on 2*1GB for a while or buy new Mushkin right away!? ;)

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Not wanting to hijack this thread (apologies to original poster) but rather than starting another thread on nearly the same subject can I ask for advice on a prob I've got with the same board please?
GA-P35C-DS3R Rev2.0 F11 BIOS. C2D E8400 nothing o'clocked.
I've got 2 matched pairs of this ram http://www.corsairmemory.com/product...WIN2X2048-6400

and since install I've had the occasional BSOD "IRQ_Not_Less_Or_Equal". I've checked through the IRQ's and there are no conflicts and I understand this message can sometimes be indicative of a memory prob.
On the .pdf it states the voltage should be 1.9v, I've changed the voltage settings in the bios to manual and upped the voltage by 0.1v but in the pc health section of the bios (and also cpu-z) it still shows as 1.8v. I've run memtest with 1 set in at a time for 4 hours+ with no errors.
Any suggestions,or am I barking up the wrong tree thinking it's a memory prob?

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

When you had the problems, for how long had the computer been running? Days, weeks?

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

The new ram was installed about a month ago, I've had about 4-5 bsod's altogether, same error message. There's no pattern to the crashes, sometimes the machine's been on all day before crashing, sometimes only for a couple of minutes. No pattern task-wise either, sometimes playing a game, sometimes just surfing the net.
The majority of the time it seems to run fine all day without a prob so it's not life-threatening, but it's irritating as hell every time you start a task wondering if this is the time the machine's going to go t*ts-up in the middle of it.
The ram in the machine before the upgrade was 4x1gb sticks of crucial PC2-5300 and it never had one bsod in all the time it was installed - 6 months+. That's why I'm wondering if the voltage is relevant to my prob, Corsair's site says my new ram needs 1.9v and the Crucial was only 1.8v. I can't understand why the change I'm making in the voltage section of the bios isn't showing up as being applied in either the pc health section of the bios or on cpu-z.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Try +.2 and see if it is closer to 1.9. Yes, that error is usually a Memory fault caused by too tight of a timing. Can you post your full table of settings for me to look at?


This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [8] 
Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [450] 
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

Performance Enhance = [Standard]

CAS Latency Time________________ ?
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ ?
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______?
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ ?

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ ?
Rank Write to READ Delay________ ?
Write to Precharge Delay_________ ?
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ ?
Read to Precharge Delay__________ ?
Static tRead Value_______________
Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V] 
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] 
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] 
CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.25]

Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [266]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Auto]

Performance Enhance = [Standard]

CAS Latency Time________________ 5
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ 5
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 18

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 3
Rank Write to READ Delay________ 3
Write to Precharge Delay_________ 6
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 42
Read to Precharge Delay__________ 3
Static tRead Value_______________ 7
Static tRead Phase Adjust________ 25 [Auto]

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.1V]
PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [Normal]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [Normal]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal]
CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal]

Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: Can't see anywhere in bios
x C4/C4E State Support..................: Can't see anywhere in bios
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

Hope this helps.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

For 4x1 I would suggest you use these settings >>>

Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
CPU Host Clock Control_ [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [266]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Auto] << Manual

Performance Enhance = [Standard]

CAS Latency Time________________ 5
Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ 5
Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 18

ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 3
Rank Write to READ Delay________ 3
Write to Precharge Delay_________ 6
Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 42 << This needs to be much higher for 4GB, I would suggest 54-62

Read to Precharge Delay__________ 3
Static tRead Value_______________ 7 << May need to be 8, but not likely. I think Refresh to act delay so low is your issue

Static tRead Phase Adjust________ 25 [Auto] << always Auto

System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.1V] << maybe +.15-.2 if .1 is not giving you 1.9V as you may need the full 1.9. And just so you know 2.0V would be safe as well

PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [Normal]
FSB OverVoltage Control___ [Normal]
(G)MCH OverVoltage Control [Normal] << +.2
CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal]

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Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply mate, I'll change those settings straightaway & hopefully that'll sort it. There have been quite long gaps between bsod's so I won't know immediately but I'll keep you posted.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-P35C-DS3R - Memory problem?

Good luck, and keep us posted when you get time to test things.