AMD Athlon 64 3000+ already out?

[Mike2010]

I don't understand, I thought the AMD 64 3000+ wasn't coming out until next year? Is the only difference between the 3200+ and the 3000+ is that the 3200+ is 2ghz and the 3000+ is 1ghz? The Athlon 64 3000+ is $215, $200 cheaper than the 64 3200+, if this is true, than I am getting a system based on this processor very soon.

Athlon 64 3000+ at NewEgg

[Wiggo]

No the Athlon64 3000+ either runs at 1.8GHz and has 1MB L2 cache or at 2GHz with 512KB of L2 cache dependin' on where ya read it but we'll know for sure very soon. What ya seein' there though are pre-order sales but delivery won't be made until the official launch.

[Mike2010]

Hmmm intresting, if the Athlon 64 3000+ is indeed clocked at 1.8ghz with a 1MB L2 cache, that will be better than it being clocked 2.0 ghz and only 512k cache. What a steal that would be if it has 1.8/1MB because it will only take a slight overclock to achieve 3200+ speeds for $200 US less.

[amd_man2005]

If its a pre-sale then why is it listed in-stock, with these specs

AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 1MB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - OEM

Specification
Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+
Core: ClawHammer
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 754
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

[Fatguy3]

Im not sure. Considering newegg is the probably the biggest US cpu online resaler, they would be in a position to get the newest items. It is wierd that there was no AMD press release though. 200 bucks for a 64-bit proc with 1mb of cache is amazing, and is really hard to believe, but who knows.

[Fatguy3]

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Well I think I found the info:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=13153

Basically, it should be in stock, the pricing is right, and it has 1mb of lvl2 cache. Holy crap, this has totally destroyed my plans for a new system. Looks like Ill be going 64-bit. :)

Considering these specs:
Specification
Model: AMD Athlon 64 3000+
Core: ClawHammer
Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
FSB: Integrated into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 754
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)


Model: AMD Athlon 64 FX-51
Core: ClawHammer
Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
FSB: Integrateded into Chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1024K
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 940
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
Packaging: OEM(Processor Only)

Im thinking this might actually be an underclocked FX-51. Which means, Overclocking would be nuts. If we could get a 200 dollar cpu to run at 750 dollar speeds....mmmm....

[amd_man2005]

Sweet! Im'a have to find me some cash, somewhere :D

[Mike2010]

This will defitnetly be my next processor, I can actually build a Athon 64 3000+/9800 Pro system for around $1000, who would of thought...

[syx]

Will this processor still be worth considering it has single memory controler?

[weta]

Charlie eats his Athlon 64 3000+ hat
Newcastle coals to arrive real soon now

Every once in a while, journalists get the glorious chance to eat their words, and today, that happened to me. The Athlon64 3000+ pics and articles I wrote over the last few days all said that the chip was a 1.8GHz, 1MB cache model, and that is what I was told. I had several in my hand, but none plugged into a machine, so no BIOS screen pics. Pity, they would have shown I was wrong right there.
Several people told me that they thought the chips were 2.0GHz, 512k cache, but I blew it off, mainly because the only person I knew with one told me otherwise. Then a helpful reader, Prof133, pointed out that my picture showed it was a 2.0/512 model.

To finish putting the boot in, he pointed me here here, providing me with the info I could not find after 45 minutes of searching AMD's web site. This helpfully provides the OPN decode info for any K7 chip you care to look up, but no K8 analogue. Sigh.

That said, looks like the 3000+ models will be 2.0GHz, 512k cache, and Newcastle arrives early, very early. Words are yummy early in the morning. At least the 3400 decodes right, I am too full to eat more.

* THE NEW PROCESSORS have started appearing on New Egg's web site and, naturally, and as always, in the Akihabara district of Tokyo

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[Fatguy3]

Why is newegg.com showing the processor as a 2.0 ghz/1mb lvl2 cache then?

[Mike2010]

Well, that explains the $200 price difference. How much of a performance drop can we expect from the Athlon 64 3200+ with 512k of less L2 cache?

[weta]

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ with 512KB cache for sale now at below $200!
Unannounced processors available all around the worldxbit / Akiba PC Hotline (pictures)

[weta]

Slowest Athlon 64 humbles fastest P4 in gaming
And for around $150 less at the checkout

German hardware website Hard Tecs 4U has published one of the first reviews of the AMD Athlon 64 3000+ processor.
This new model runs at the same 2 GHz frequency as the flagship product, but does so with 512 KB of level two cache, which is half of what the 3200+ model has. Cheapest Price Watch price has it for $214, which is $156 less than the $370 3.2 GHz P4.

I've condensed the gaming benchmark results for just the Athlon 64 3000+ and the 3.2 GHz P4.

3D Mark 2K1 @ 640x480
Athlon 64 3000+ - 21,075
P4 3.2 GHz - 19,382
Athlon 64 won by 8.7%

3D Mark 2K1 @ 1024x768
Athlon 64 3000+ - 18,924
P4 3.2 GHz - 17,587
Athlon 64 won by 7.6%

Comanche 4 @ 1024x768
Athlon 64 3000+ - 60.63
P4 3.2 GHz - 62.46
P4 won by 3.0%

Quake 3 @ 640x480
Athlon 64 3000+ - 462.2
P4 3.2 GHz - 454.6
Athlon 64 won by 1.7%

Quake 3 @ 1024x768
Athlon 64 3000+ - 389.0
P4 3.2 GHz - 370.2
Athlon 64 won by 5.1%

Serious Sam @ 640x480
Athlon 64 3000+ - 248.6
P4 3.2 GHz - 195.4
Athlon 64 won by 27.2%

Serious Sam @ 1024x768
Athlon 64 3000+ - 161.2
P4 3.2 GHz - 134.6
Athlon 64 won by 19.8%

Return to Castle Wolfenstein @ 1024x768
Athlon 64 3000+ - 139.3
P4 3.2 GHz - 138.0
Athlon 64 won by 0.94%

Unreal Tournament 2K3 @ 1024x768
Athlon 64 3000+ - 71.28
P4 3.2 GHz - 60.89
Athlon 64 won by 17.1%

As you can see, Athlon 64 won eight of the nine benchmarks, and one of them by 27%. For those who need superior gaming performance than a 3.2 GHz P4, but at less cost, these benchmarks indicate that the Athlon 64 3000+ is the way to go.

It was a smart move on AMD's part to release this device at the same frequency as its sibling, but with half the level two cache, as it still betters the P4 in the very important world of gaming.

AMD deserves some credit here. It has brought to market a processor that has half the theoretical memory bandwidth and 37.5% less frequency than the 3.2 GHz P4, and it is still a gaming winner.

For those that have been waiting for the cheaper Athlon 64s to arrive, you can now have your cake and eat it.

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