IBM GXP Problems: The Truth Exposed and Possible Fixes (arti

[parthena]

That was me who posted the above - I've got myself registered - somehow unregistered posting seems a bit irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

That was me who posted the above - I've got myself registered - somehow unregistered posting seems a bit irresponsible.

It's always good to put a name to the posts... :)

[remcor2000]

i have a ibm 40 gig gxp60 after 1 month of using it locks up and makes stupid noises and only can start dos so i use scan disk after 10 bad clusters repaired the pc started again and i came in windows i asked the retailer and he said if it happens again come back to me but now it happens again.
My question is, is this that stupid bug of all those hd from IBM
cause it really suck

[jaeger66]

Freeze spray isn't conductive, but hasn' t anyone heard of condensation? It's 6th grade physics. Cold surface + warm air = water.

[Anonymous]

All this discussion is great. I own 2 40gb 75GXP's and my first worked flawlessy until i got the second.

The second gave me the click error sounds and then when i was listening carefully (pulled them out of my machine), i found that it was both (not at the same time, when accessing different parts of the hard disk).

But the big thing about this problem, is that i just deleted the information held on that part of the hard disk, recently i have updated the firmware and i have never recieved the sounds again. EH? This doesn't make much sense, but i'm not complaining cause they are working. I am going to re-install soon maybe as RAID and see what happens.

Kalv.
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[Anonymous]

I've got a 60Gb IBM 60GXP drive. Stress testing it with IBM Feature Tool gave me a temperature of 60C at which a got a warning that the drive was too hot (max operational temp is 55C).
Under heavy disk load (dv recording) I got 55C which was the triggering point that made me look for a cooling solution for my hd.

I got myself a CoolDrive 4002 from Coolermaster, but this 5 1/4 bay has a really loud fan in front that I didn't like very much. The solution I'm using now is:

- I'm running the Cooldrive fan at 5 volt which makes it really quiet. I also had to remove the front cover, and I've also installed two 12db 80x80 cabinet fans in the cabinet (one in the front and one at the rear) to get it perform this well.
- The drive is also been made quiet with IBM Feature tool
- Max temp now is 45C, 20C above room temp.

My IBM disk was bought in May 2001 and has so far been operating well.

[Beefy]

Freeze spray isn't conductive, but hasn' t anyone heard of condensation? It's 6th grade physics. Cold surface + warm air = water.

Actually, freeze spray causes minimal to no condensation.. It evaporates too quickly to allow the build up of moisture from the air.. definitely not enough to cause any major problems.. instead of fighting over whether or not the spray caused the problem, how about we just drop the whole thing and get back on topic?

[Albinus]

Thank you Beefy! Now let's start talking about IBM hard drives

[-GK-]

Im getting my new GXP 60 in about a week :)

If i install a fan where should i place it? On top of the drive blowing down on it, or away from it? Or below it (near controller chip) blowing towards, or away? I have two 80mm fans to use.

GK

[Anonymous]

Generally just ensure there is air flow srrounding all areas of the drive... The best idea would be to buy a proper HDD cooler.

[jaeger66]

Actually, freeze spray causes minimal to no condensation.. It evaporates too quickly to allow the build up of moisture from the air.. definitely not enough to cause any major problems.. instead of fighting over whether or not the spray caused the problem, how about we just drop the whole thing and get back on topic?

Competence is always on topic. It doesn't matter how the surface got cold, if it's cold water will form. This article is so full of errors, both grammatical and factual, that it cannot be taken seriously.

And BTW, no modern IDE hard drive requires active cooling(unless you happen to be ventilating your case with a hairdryer). If the ambient temp is over 55C you have much more to worry about than your hard drive.

[Wiggo]

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Competence is always on topic. It doesn't matter how the surface got cold, if it's cold water will form. This article is so full of errors, both grammatical and factual, that it cannot be taken seriously.

And BTW, no modern IDE hard drive requires active cooling(unless you happen to be ventilating your case with a hairdryer). If the ambient temp is over 55C you have much more to worry about than your hard drive.

Sounds more like nitpickin' to me because ya don't like bein' wrong but if the freeze spray wasn't any good then why are so many technicians using it?
People who are generally loosing a case always revert back to nitpickin' also so if ya nothin' constructive to add (which you havn't) then bugger off. <img src="http://members.optushome.com.au/wiggo100/tool.gif">
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[BUhockey13]

Well, after having my 30.7G 75GXP IBM HDD dwindle to about 28.0G in about 12 months I got 2 40G Maxtor HDDs (one is for ghosting the other drive) and two removable bays.... :D

Maybe I'll have better luck with Maxtors...... :)

[Anonymous]

My 75GXP drives are running fine. I've had one of them for about two years.

Right now, the two 40G drives are installed in a RAID 0 array on an Asus A7V133 mboard (Promise RAID chip).

Of course, to be completely honest, I have them installed in a CoolerMaster aluminum case (Model 201 or 205, I think ... it has 7 internal 3.5 drive bays) where two vertical 80mm fans blow cool air over them and two more 80mm fans serve as exhaust units. These fans come with the case as standard equipment.

I prefer the vertical fan alignment of the CoolerMaster cases over the horizontal fan alignment of the Lian Li cases. It just seems to me that I get better cool air distribution over my disc drives with vertical fans ingesting air from the front of the case.

BTW, the 75GXP drives can be adjusted to run quieter and cooler (and also slower). You can get the program from the IBM support site.

Hope this helps ...

Chynn Do'Urden
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[jaeger66]

Sounds more like nitpickin' to me because ya don't like bein' wrong but if the freeze spray wasn't any good then why are so many technicians using it?
People who are generally loosing a case always revert back to nitpickin' also so if ya nothin' constructive to add (which you havn't) then bugger off. <img src="http://members.optushome.com.au/wiggo100/tool.gif">
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Yes, I'll be leaving now. I came over because the article and the dullards praising it were being ridiculed over at StorageReview, and I had to see the wreckage. Spectacular, really.

One last time folks, cold surfaces meeting with warm air make water. Whether you use cooling spray, a freezer, or leave it outside during winter makes no difference.