cd burner problems

[wily5150]

I have an older cd burner (philips) and I'm having problems with it. The tray won't open and it does not respond to the tray open button. my question is can this be due to driver problems? the kids put a cd in it and I can't get it opened. I finally opened the case and unhooked it, because every time it boots it tries to read it and it was causing problems. If anyone has any imput on this please get back to me. Thanks

[kane2g]

with CDRW being so cheap, i say upgrade

[asklepios]

most probably the CD-burner is set as slave. my CD-ROM drive has this problem too. if you keep a CD in it at boot-time it won't be recognised by windows (thats what happens with me). i know my CD-ROM drive is old but don't want to upgrade it right now
make a point of not leaving a CD in it at the time of shutdown. to get the CD out, restart the PC and press the open button at the time of POST (power on self test) or at the time when it is shutting down. its a very small time that you will get to have the CD out.
another way to do it is press F9 at boot-up. it will show you the bootloader menu (the devices). get the CD out and close the tray and you should be done.

though i think its high time i follow kane2g's advice.

[dryadsoul]

There is always the needle in the hole above the volume control
trick............no power needed.......and it works every time

[maximus7001]

I had a customer with that problem. He put a 700mb cdrw in his older Yamaha burner and it totally crashed the system everytime. So i tried the burner in other machines, same problem. I used the pin trick to get it out. And the disc reads and writes fine in any other drive, so i saved the data onto a cdr for him and confiscated the cdrw(for his own good).
Rebooting after the crash would work sometimes, but the drive was missing every time (no letter anymore). No computer i tried could recognize the drive with that disc in it.
Best i can figure is the drive was made well before 700mb cdrw was. like 1998 when they cost $400cdn
Nothing wrong with the drive , it works fine. And i still use the disc.

What a neat little 2cm fan in the back of the drive, the only one i have ever seen with a fan.

[TheOne�]

well, i got me a BTE 52x24x52x like a month ago and when i first installed it, it worked fine, i burned a few cds and it still worked fine. but now its sometimes recognized by device manager but it doesn't appear on my computer nor i can use it with any burning software. i think i changed the jumper settings(don't know why) but i think its that .....i still got those small pins for both drives(a cd-rom and the burner) so where do i put'em?, i want the cd-rom to be master and burner to be slave and both got 6 pins( 3 by 2 or 2 by 3 or ::: )

[maximus7001]

There should be a key map on the drives, it will look something like this :::.
The single pin is for orientation.
It should be on a sticker or cast in the plastic or stamped in the metal.

[Mr. C]

yes, as maximus 7001 stated it is normally on the drive itself
sometimes it is only designated as;
M for master
S for slave
CS for cable select

Be advised, some CD-R/CD-RW drives do not contend well being a slave on the IDE channel and may not operate/be recognized with 100% accuracy and efficiency.

If the slave setting just doesn't cut it, switch it back to master on the IDE channel.

[TheOne�]

thx for the help, i fixed the prob i was havin with my burner. the burner didn't like 2 be a slave so i just put it as master, i also had a wrong pin.

[Wiggo]

Very few CDRW's are happy at all in the slave position. Burning requires the CDRW to have full control of the IDE channel which it can't do in Slave mode.

[DraGoN-BoY]

Very few CDRW's are happy at all in the slave position. Burning requires the CDRW to have full control of the IDE channel which it can't do in Slave mode.

My CDRW is on slave and just recently I've been getting problems when using nero.
These came up in the event log:
8:11:49 PM HP CD-Writer+9100
Invalid write state
8:11:49 PM HP CD-Writer+9100
Could not perform EndTrack
8:11:49 PM HP CD-Writer+9100
SCSI Target error
8:11:49 PM HP CD-Writer+9100
Could not perform Fixation
Burn process failed at 4x (600 KB/s)

Would this be software related or hardware? And would the slave position be the problem, but I also have had the CDRW in slave in the past and have had no problems up till now.
I haven't tried any other programs yet, but I will later tonight.

[Wiggo]

I will not install any burner in the slave just to avoid those sort errors. It must be the Master.

[DraGoN-BoY]

Does it matter where the device is on the IDE cable? for example master closet to mobo. I always wanted to find out this question, or is it irrelevant where it is?:wow:

[Wiggo]

Masters should be at the end of the cable and slaves in the middle.

[DraGoN-BoY]

Oooooh, had it other way around all that time :eek:, thanks Wiggo :cheers: