help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

[greggy101]

Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone here ( including but not limited to Lsdmeasap ) would be willing to spent some time helping me overclock (the right way) my GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)
I am working with i7 extreme -975 CPU-Z Validator 3.1 GTX 470 stock setting - both liquid cooled with 240mm radiator (dual fans)
My new memory is 3x4GB Corsair Dominator-GT (CMT12GX3M3A2000C9) Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 Memory Upgrades - Guaranteed Compatible Memory for your Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD7 from Corsair at 9-10-9-27 running currently 1920Mhz.
So... for over 1 .5 yr I was using ET6 with the "extreme" level of OC, getting me to 4GHz at 160x25, stable. My problems started when I have decided to add new memory and configure the oc from the bios
like the experts do
Everything went crazy - I was following Miahallens guide and could get to the max bblock of 190 at 1.455V but the memory wouldn't cooperate ( couldn't even get close to 2000MHz my goal)
I decided then to go back to ET6 and use their preprogrammed oc at 4GHz (one I was using before) and manually add my new mem. It worked (kind of) - my pc is stable, but running IntelBurn test I can see that one of
the cores would hit 100C quite frequently (#1) 0, 2 and 3 stay just below 100C. On the idle/easy load my temps are between 50C to 65C.
When in bios I cannot see what the true settings are since preprogrammed ET6 keeps almost everything on AUTO. When I got the real setting (pics attached) I realized how hi the voltages are and I am not so sure any longer if I
should keep it this way...
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated!
PS
Using 1 graphic card and 1 Revo3 as PCIe attached so also concerned if hi IOH core voltage won't kill my cards...

SPD_dumps.zip

[Chike]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

The attechments are gones please reattach them (and keep them attached or they'll be gone).

[greggy101]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

The attechments are gones please reattach them (and keep them attached or they'll be gone).

When I click on them they do open.
Please try again an let me know.
Thank you,

[Chike]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

Nope, just the spd mo images.

[greggy101]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0) F9d

Nope, just the spd mo images.

I think it has something to do with 1 attachment per post allowed...
Here is the pic:

[Chike]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

All those results of auto in BIOS or are they set to those values in BIOS or is it ET6 that sets them when it is loaded?
QPI/Vtt is very high no wonder for the hi temperatures, try 1.35v or less, IOH core should also be OK with default.

[greggy101]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

All those results of auto in BIOS or are they set to those values in BIOS or is it ET6 that sets them when it is loaded?
QPI/Vtt is very high no wonder for the hi temperatures, try 1.35v or less, IOH core should also be OK with default.

ET6 sets them when loading, when I go to BIOS they are all in AUTO except for the ones that I have changed - like my memory settings.
I will try QPI/VTT at 1.35V and IOH core at 1.1V
Will report back asap.
Thanks!

[Chike]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

Better disable ET6 from loading setting when it starts and do everything manually.
You know about how much vcore you need and might get away with even less. QPI/Vtt you will have to find, the lower it is possible to use is better.

Your CPU is unlocked so you don't even need to change bclk much to get the memory at DDR-2000. Try selecting XMP profile1 and then increase bclk untill you get it to 2000 or max it is stable at. Then increase CPU multplier. You can also try and lower QPI frequency to make it easier to overclock.

[greggy101]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

Better disable ET6 from loading setting when it starts and do everything manually.
You know about how much vcore you need and might get away with even less. QPI/Vtt you will have to find, the lower it is possible to use is better.

Your CPU is unlocked so you don't even need to change bclk much to get the memory at DDR-2000. Try selecting XMP profile1 and then increase bclk untill you get it to 2000 or max it is stable at. Then increase CPU multplier. You can also try and lower QPI frequency to make it easier to overclock.

At first I've got IOH core to 1.1V and then tried QPI/VTT sat 1.355 as per your suggestion - no luck; had to go 1.435 to load windows but not stable with IntelBurn; at 1.455 fails at first thread of IntelBurn.
Not sure I should keep on going with the voltage increases.
I have ET6 disabled to load at windows, however I keep its "extreme" settings in bios as this was the only way for me to get my new memory running at close to 2000; when combined with XMP profile 1 - didn't work at all - tried this route a couple of days ago, before I posted here for help.
I know I should get it all done manually step by step in BIOS only, but that's where I have problems to get it going. Following Miahallens guide got me to the max of 190 bblock at 1.455V but couldn't get the mem to work.
Thanks for your help - any other ideas?

[wazza300]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

you might not be able to run memory at that speed,not unless you use silly amounts of qpi/vtt voltage,1600mhz would be more realistic imo esp with 12gb of ram, its harder to get a stable oc

1.4v for cpu @4ghz seems alot too? around 1.3-1.35v cpu voltage,set uncore frequency to twice your memory multiplier so 8x mem multi would be 16x uncore frequency

set the main top memory timings manually for each channel,for examply type whats printed on the ram itself 8-8-8-24 command rate 1t,might be better stability/voltages wise to use 2t command rate

qpi/vtt can be anything around 1.3750-1.4+

i remember when i tested 12gb of ocz reaper i needed 1.3750v qpi/vtt and that was at 1600mhz and stock cpu clocks

[greggy101]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

you might not be able to run memory at that speed,not unless you use silly amounts of qpi/vtt voltage,1600mhz would be more realistic imo esp with 12gb of ram, its harder to get a stable oc

1.4v for cpu @4ghz seems alot too? around 1.3-1.35v cpu voltage,set uncore frequency to twice your memory multiplier so 8x mem multi would be 16x uncore frequency

set the main top memory timings manually for each channel,for examply type whats printed on the ram itself 8-8-8-24 command rate 1t,might be better stability/voltages wise to use 2t command rate

qpi/vtt can be anything around 1.3750-1.4+

i remember when i tested 12gb of ocz reaper i needed 1.3750v qpi/vtt and that was at 1600mhz and stock cpu clocks

Hi Wazza,
Thanks for ideas here, much appreciated.
My whole "problem" was with the fact that I wanted the new mem work around 2000; my old one ADATA 1600 gaming Series at 9-9-9-24 (1.55V to 1.75V) was pretty good, but I wanted more
I will play with it some more...

[wazza300]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

i know what you mean,problem is those cpu's memory controllers arnt that great,it might not be worth running such a high qpi/vtt voltage at 2000mhz,esp 12gb,you would severly limit the life of the cpu imo,its due to ocing with bclk the more memory fster frequency and the more ram you have the more voltage you will need

you can try if you like but its much safer to run at 1600mhz,or ditch 6gb and run 6gb at 1866mhz,i ran 6gb at 1800mhz fine for years but never oc'd when i used 12gb

[greggy101]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

i know what you mean,problem is those cpu's memory controllers arnt that great,it might not be worth running such a high qpi/vtt voltage at 2000mhz,esp 12gb,you would severly limit the life of the cpu imo,its due to ocing with bclk the more memory fster frequency and the more ram you have the more voltage you will need

you can try if you like but its much safer to run at 1600mhz,or ditch 6gb and run 6gb at 1866mhz,i ran 6gb at 1800mhz fine for years but never oc'd when i used 12gb

Agree with you 100%! If it wasn't for the fact that I am using FancyCache and assigning between 4 to 6gb to it, I would keep it at 6 gb total and be happy with it. But there is always something... that we want to improve and then it kicks us back in the a..

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

See, I told you others would be able to help you if you made a thread!

If you want some suggested settings to try 2000Mhz, I can give you some to play with, but keep in mind as the others have mentioned you may need to use a high amount of QPI/Vtt. And doing that above 1.45 isn't really ideal for daily 24/7 use

[greggy101]

Re: help overclock please GA-X58A-UD7 (rev. 1.0)

Better disable ET6 from loading setting when it starts and do everything manually.
You know about how much vcore you need and might get away with even less. QPI/Vtt you will have to find, the lower it is possible to use is better.

Your CPU is unlocked so you don't even need to change bclk much to get the memory at DDR-2000. Try selecting XMP profile1 and then increase bclk untill you get it to 2000 or max it is stable at. Then increase CPU multplier. You can also try and lower QPI frequency to make it easier to overclock.

That was a nice idea -to start with XMP that lists profile 1 as 2000 at 143 bblock and work around it, but no matter what I do - it won't even post...
Not even with the default settings for CPU and XMP w/profile1