GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

[paulselhi]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

turn off turbo boost
change you qpi link speed to x36

the only things you need to play with are the bclk and the Uncore Frequency which should be 2x +1 of your mem multiplier so if this is 8 then set to 17

a 4ghz overclock could be 20 x200 mem multi of 8 will give you 1600 RAM

Adjust the cpu votls and qpi-vtt ans set mem to 1.66v, leave all other volts at auto

if you still have mem issues lower the mem multi to 6 and set uncore to 13

[paulselhi]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

what cooling are you using ?

[greeble]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

I'm using a h50 push pull setup temps never get over 60 underload. I'm not at the computer atm but once I get back ill give it another go. I finally cracked a stable 3.6ghz stable overclock last night so with the advice in here ill push for a bit more. Thanks everyone!

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

Thanks for your settings, try these and see how you get along

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]  << Disable, set 23 above (Best to use Odd CPU multi, even often is unstable and require more voltage)
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Auto]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Auto]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Auto]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. [Auto]  << Set x48 if you leave Bclk at 133
Uncore Frequency ..........................  [24x]  24-26 for x12 memory multi

Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]  Extreme is best
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick]  Set Expert, then set each channel's main timings and CMD rate one by one, this way you can see when you loose a channel (Dropped channels will appear as NA or - in the timings)

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[9]
tRCD .......................................[9]
tRP .........................................[9]
tRAS .......................................[24]



##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  [28]  Auto
tRRD .......................................[Auto]
tWTR .......................................[Auto]
tWR ........................................[Auto]
tWTP .......................................[Auto]
tWL ........................................ [8]   Auto
tRFC .......................................[Auto]
tRTP .......................................[Auto]
tFAW ......................................[Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) ................[Auto]  << Set 1T
 

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]  Level 1
CPU Vcore ...............................1.25
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.41  << May need 1.35-1.45+
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................[Auto]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[Auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[Auto]  << Set 1.2
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[Auto]  << Set 1.14
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[Auto]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[Auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............[1.66]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[greeble]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

Happy new year everyone. thanks for the help so far its been great I'm a complete noob to all this but seem to be getting the hang of it.
I still can't get the box stable. its been fine for a while but now when i render heavy 3D scenes I have to remove 3 sticks (6gb) of RAM to get the thing stable. and it has errors on Prime95 (rounding errors) I've overclocked it but this problem is still there at its unclocked state.
I've run tests on all the sticks of RAM. each one tested individually using memtest, all have zero errors each stick had 5 passes performed on it.

here are my BIOS settings

Running FE version now not FE1

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Auto]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Auto]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Auto]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. [x36]
Uncore Frequency ..........................  [x21] 

Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................[160]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [ Extreme]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [10]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................[9]
tRCD .......................................[9]
tRP .........................................[9]
tRAS .......................................[24]



##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................  [Auto]  
tRRD .......................................[Auto]
tWTR .......................................[Auto]
tWR ........................................[Auto]
tWTP .......................................[Auto]
tWL ........................................ [ Auto]  
tRFC .......................................[Auto]
tRTP .......................................[Auto]
tFAW ......................................[Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) ................[1]
 

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 1]  
CPU Vcore ...............................[1.25]
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............[1.41]
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................[Auto]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................[Auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[1.2] 
IOH Core 1.100v .......................[ 1.14] 
ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[Auto]
ICH Core 1.1v .........................[Auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............[1.66]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

a few questions. I've set the
Command Rate (CMD) for the RAM to 1 on all the channels is this right?
with the cpu mutli set to x23 the BCLK at 160 runs the i7 at 3.68ghz is the vcore of 1.25 and the QPI/VTT of 1.41 enough?

also the same for the QPI PLL and IOH Core is the voltage right?

thanks for all the help

[greeble]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

just descovered that even though memtest came back with zero errors when each stick was tested individually i ran memtest with all 6 sticks installed and the screen was red with errors! tests seem good with 3 sticks installed. im going to try each one of the remaining 3 sticks to see what happens.
is this happening because of voltages being set incorrectly? or somthing else? motherboard problems?

[greeble]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

still no luck getting it stable! can anyone help? i'm still not sure if the voltages I have set whn overclocked are right?

[greeble]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

decided thatt i'm either going to return or sell the 2 6gb kits and buy one corsair 12gb kit

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

Voltages looked good to me, aside from maybe you needed 1.4-1.5 QPI/Vtt for 12GB, it's all up to your CPU.

Uncore of 22-23 may also help a lot, did you try that? Ideal uncore is around 3.4-3.7Ghz

12GB kit vs. two 6GB kits is a marketing ploy, while 12GB kits are indeed meant for each other a 2x 6GB kit will be fine as well once you have the settings correct.

I've posted this a few times for users that thought you had to use the exact same 6GB kits, or a 12GB kit, hope it helps anyone trying to decide

It's all marketing!!

12GB of mixed memory @ 1600Mhz. 3 different sets mixed, all with different timings and IC's, even a second brand threw in to mix it up. Each channel set to spec of installed memory, so this is REAL Triple channel :)



12GB Mixed memory @ 1600Mhz. 2 mixed sets, different timings and IC's

[greeble]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

I've upped the uncore to 22 and the QPI/Vtt to 1.475
passed the intel burn test with no problems. it doesn't even start the prime test. all the cores come back with rounding errors. though it doesn't BSOD anymore within 15mins of a coldboot

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

So, that sounds like you are getting closer then!

Keep tweaking and I'm sure you will get it, or did you already return the memory for the 12GB set?

And hey, I noticed your first post above, and your last comment. When you tested each stick one by one, was that on a cold boot each time for each stick?

If not please test that way, one stick cold boot each morning, it may just be 1-2 of the sticks causing the cold boot issues.

[greeble]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

i took your advice and I didn't return the memory. Going to keep trying with what I have as i seem to be getting closer thanks for all your advice.
i'm a bit afraid to set the qpi/VTT to more than 1.5 as i'm afraid i'll end up frying something.
With the uncore set to 22 i'm getting around 3.6 Ghz so i'm not going to set it to 23.
but i'm happier now that Its not BSOD within 15mins of a cold boot.
would setting qpi/VTT higher than 1.5 cause any adverse effects? i'm a bit puzzled that prime doesn't even begin any tests yet intelburn passes no problems

I was also told that the it maybe because i'm running all 6 sticks at 1600MHZ.
Would dropping the speed to 1333 and the voltage to 1.5 rather than 1.66?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 12gb problem and general RAM problems

1.5 or more will be fine, but it's probably not needed. Some memory 2000Mhz type, need 1.5-1.6 and comes programmed that way.

I made a post about it a while ago here, but as I mentioned you probably don't need it at 1600Mhz
QPI/Vtt Voltage post (High is OK)

I've ran 1.45-1.6 very hard for long periods without ever having issues, again though just saying this to let you know it's ok not that you need it.

3.6Ghz is good, if you are under that now trying getting it closer or above 3.6 as it may help.

Maybe your prime is corrupted or something, download it again just to be sure?