GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

[surround]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

CPU = i7 930
Motherboard = GA-x58A-UD5 / Rev. 1.0
BIOS Version = F6I
Ram = CORSAIR / DOMINATOR / 3x2GB / http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TR3X6G1600C8D.pdf

Hardware Spects:

i7 930
GA-x58A-UD5 (rev 1.0)
PSU Antec CP-850
Corsair Dominator 6GB
Sapphire Toxic HD5850
1 x Intel SSD 80GB x25-M gen 2 (OS)
3 x Samsung 1TB HD103SJ
1 x Samsung 2TB HD203WI
1 x LG DVDRW
Win 7 Pro 64bit

All SATA controllers in BIOS set to AHCI for faster access.


BIOS SETTINGS:

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [22x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. AUTO (4.86Hz)
Uncore Frequency .......................... AUTO (3200Mhz)
Isonchronous Frequency .................. I do not have that in BIOS


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... AUTO

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Profile 1]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [AUTO]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ...................... AUTO (8)
tRCD ....................................... AUTO (8)
tRP ......................................... AUTO (8)
tRAS ....................................... AUTO (24)

Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ 41 (AUTO)
tRRD ....................................... 6 (AUTO)
tWTR ...................................... 6 (AUTO)
tWR ........................................ 12 (AUTO)
tWTP ....................................... 24 (AUTO)
tWL ........................................ 8 (AUTO)
tRFC ....................................... 88 (AUTO)
tRTP ....................................... 6 (AUTO)
tFAW ...................................... 30 (AUTO)
Command Rate (CMD) ................ 2 (AUTO)

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ................... - (AUTO)

B2B CAS Delay .......................... 57 (AUTO)


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [AUTO]
CPU Vcore ............................... 1.26875V (AUTO)
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.175V (AUTO)
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... [AUTO]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... [AUTO]
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... [AUTO]
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... [AUTO]
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... [AUTO]
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ [AUTO]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]



CPU Temp ~40C

Hope this is ok info. Thank you for the help.

[sygnus21]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

FYI - See my post here about CPU fan speed....

My New Computer. Impressed with the O/c. - Page 7 - Windows 7 Forums

You might also check page 27 of your owner's manual.

[surround]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Hi sygnus21,

I have Smart Fan Enabled in the Bios but I do not want to use ET6 because of the rise in DCP Latency. I want Bios setup for Fan speed but for now there isn't this option. It would have been nice to set the voltage for the fans manually from Bios.
I also used Noctua fans with UL adapters and the voltage varies based on CPU temp and they are almost quiet. But since I have PWM Fans I thought to use them as a better alternative. The problem is that I want to set them to a lower voltage from Bios and I can't so they work with high voltage even at ~40C for CPU.

Page 27 (of my MB manual I believe...) is about MB power connection pins. I use 20+4 connector from PSU. I do not understand what to look for.

Don't get me wrong, these are minor problems as I am very happy with my GigaByte MB. Very happy! This is a wonderful MB for what I do and I wouldn't look elsewhere. But since I've seen this forum I thought to ask to be 100% pleased with it.

Thank you for your answer.

[sygnus21]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Hi sygnus21,

I have Smart Fan Enabled in the Bios but I do not want to use ET6 because of the rise in DCP Latency. I want Bios setup for Fan speed but for now there isn't this option. It would have been nice to set the voltage for the fans manually from Bios.
I also used Noctua fans with UL adapters and the voltage varies based on CPU temp and they are almost quiet. But since I have PWM Fans I thought to use them as a better alternative. The problem is that I want to set them to a lower voltage from Bios and I can't so they work with high voltage even at ~40C for CPU.

Page 27 (of my MB manual I believe...) is about MB power connection pins. I use 20+4 connector from PSU. I do not understand what to look for.

Hi Surround,

I don't use Easy Tune, nor do I use any fan adapters. The page I referenced to is from the .PDF version of our board's manual (we have the same board), in the physical manual it would be page 28...



If you look at this post closely, you'll see that "Smart Fan" DOES vary the fan speed based on CPU temp. The requirement for the fan, as stated on page 28 is it "requires the use of a CPU fan with fan speed control design." Evidently my Noctua NF-P14 fan that comes with the cooler meets this requirement. Maybe yours does as well. You might also notice that "SYS_FAN2" also has a speed control on pin# 2, same as on the CPU header. Again, re-read my post - My New Computer. Impressed with the O/c. - Page 7 - Windows 7 Forums

Good luck.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Thanks for your settings, try these settings as they should be optimal for this speed and your memory

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [22x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. AUTO (4.86Hz) << Set x36 or X44 at 133 Bclk, both are fine and x44 would be better
Uncore Frequency .......................... AUTO (3200Mhz) << Set 2 x memory multi, or above so set 24-26
Isonchronous Frequency .................. I do not have that in BIOS << it's there, just not on the main page, nothing to worry about thoug


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... AUTO << Set 100

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo] << Extreme may be better to use
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Profile 1] << Disabled
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO] << Set x12 for 1600mhz (133x12)
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [AUTO] << Expert, then set each channel main timings and CMD rate one by one

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................8
tRCD .......................................8
tRP .........................................8
tRAS ....................................... 24


##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ 41 (AUTO)
tRRD ....................................... 6 (AUTO)
tWTR ...................................... 6 (AUTO)
tWR ........................................ 12 (AUTO)
tWTP ....................................... 24 (AUTO)
tWL ........................................ 8 (AUTO)
tRFC ....................................... 88 (AUTO)
tRTP ....................................... 6 (AUTO)
tFAW ...................................... 30 (AUTO)
Command Rate (CMD) ................ Set 1T

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ................... - (AUTO)

B2B CAS Delay .......................... 57 (AUTO)


Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [AUTO]
CPU Vcore ............................... 1.26875V (AUTO)
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.175V (AUTO) << Set 1.25-1.375 for 1600Mhz, this is all up to your CPU you may need more or less
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... [AUTO]

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... [AUTO]
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... [AUTO]
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... [AUTO]
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... [AUTO]
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ [AUTO]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. << Set 1.66
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[surround]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

@Lsdmeasap
Thank you for your settings. I didn't had a clue as to set those.
Well. I've redone the settings and it's stable.
I do not really feel any diference but I may in the apps.
The post is still log but it may be the usual so I don't mind. In Windows is going fast so that is all that matters.
I do not understand why to disable X.M.P. if memory supports it?
Without it BIOS at auto says 8 8 8 20 with 1T but i set it at 8 8 8 24 with 1T as you said.
With X.M.P. om, in BIOS there was at auto 8 8 8 24 with 2T but I left it off.

As i do not understand, what what would be the correct settings though: X.M.P. off with 8 8 8 24 + 1T, X.M.P. off with 8 8 8 20 + 1t or X.M.P. on with 8 8 8 24 + 2T?

Thank you for all your time and help. Hope to have the ability to set the fans voltage manually from BIOS in the near future version. I hope... :)

@sygnus21

Oh.. sorry, I didn't understood.
Yes I have Noctua fans now and they run with ULN and BIOS variable voltage silent. Now, I do not know if with Noctua NH-D14 and 28-30C ambient is ok with 45-50C Temp in Idle and 60-70C in full for i7 930 CPU?

Thank you for your help and time.

[wazza300]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

xmp is a saved profile stored on the ram,as your overclocking it wont know the exact voltages/timings needed,it wont be as accurate as setting the timings/speed and voltages yourself even if you manually set at 8-8-8-24 it will probably use less qpi/vtt voltage than it would with xmp enabled and 8-8-8-20 timings...you can always lower the 24 to 20 yourself andsee if its stable/error free with memtest86

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Disable XMP, you can use 888-20/24 whatever value you get stable is fine.

Use 1T too, it will be better for performance

[sygnus21]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

I'm using 8-8-8-20-1T, manual settings, voltage @1.640 and have no issues. Have the same Corsair RAM as the OP.

[Formal]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Hi, sorry new to this forum but pulling my hair out ands this seemed the most relevant thread I could find!

I have been on Mac for the last 6 yrs and have built a new PC!

I have used the same board in this thread and have a i7 920 with 12GB Corsair XMS3 1600Mhz ram and the Crucial SATA3 300D 128GB SSD.

I cannot get a boot from newly installed Win 7 ultimate and the BIOS looks extremely indepth....

Is there any standard BIOS config for this setup? I have setup a lot of systems in the past and looked at a few newer systems over the last few years, but never an i7 setup with SATA3 and DDR3 ram.

Any tips , pointers would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance

[wazza300]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

did you install the ssd on the sata3 port? white ones i think,not sure,go in bios under boot order/boot priority and set the ssd as first boot device,if its still not booting you may need to try with just 6gb untill you cansee whats happening regarding qpi/vtt voltages

[Formal]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Hi, yes I have it in port 6 (SATA3 white) and I have only 6GB in there at present, I can get it into WIN7 every now and then but usually hangs on the boot logo

Could it be faulty kit?

[wazza300]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

no i think you might need drivers for sata3 im not sure,try moving your ssd into blue sata port 0 and see if it boots up if it does you can then install the sata3 drivers from in windows,ill just check on gigabyte website to makesure you need drivers for sata3 but i would try that first

EDIT: from ud5a manual

Turn on your computer and press <Delete> to enter BIOS Setup during the POST (Power-On Self-Test). Make sure GSATA 6_7/IDE Cntroller under the Integrated Peripherals menu is enabled. Then set GSATA 6_7/IDE Ctrl Mode to IDE or AHCI, depending on your requirements (Figure 1). (In AHCI mode, installation of the SATA AHCI driver is required during Windows XP installation. Refer to section, "5-1-4" for more information.)

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Drivers are not needed, or suggested for the Marvell ports as they are not so great.

Best to keep the MSAHCI Driver installed.

So you have windows installed already, or not?

What BIOS are you using?

Have you set your ram voltage and QPI/Vtt manually? If not set 1.3-1.35 QPI/Vtt for now, and set 1.66 Ram voltage.

I can help you with full settings once you get going if need be, just not quite sure where you are now though.

[Formal]

Re: GA-x58A-UD5 (rev. 1.0) Fan control and slow POST problems

Hey all, sorry for delay in getting back to you, it turns out the the Corsair 800D case WITHOUT SATA3 on the backplane was causing the grief....

DOA'ed the crap giant box and got the Fractal R2 and everything is good!

The C300 has now been upgraded to 2 x C300 and its all working, albeit the ****e drivers on the internal Raid only giving about a 5% boost in speed (using AS SSD I get 365MB/S and 205MB/S Read) I am thinking of getting the Highpoint 640 PCIe SATA3 card to increase times (this rig is for film editing so trying to get speed as high as possible)

I am now going to start tweaking the M/Board to get some more juice out of the i7 2.66Ghz and the ram, any tips would be brilliant.

Once again thanks for the swift help