GA-EP45-DS4 (rev. 1.0) need help with 8gb ram installment

[danne]

Hey everyone!
my system is (think this is most info that are needed)

moderboard: GA-EP45-DS4 rev1.0 (bios 10b)
graphic: gigabyte 9800gtx 512mb
Cpu: intel e8400 dualcore
PSU: hiper 580watt

ram set 1: 2x Corsair CM2x2048-8500C5D ver1.1
ram set 2: 2x Corsair CM2x2048-8500C5D ver2.1

bios is at standard with no overclocking, and 4gb ram works perfect and stable with all settings i tested,

Now to the problem i cant get the system to boot up with 3 or 4 sticks installed, just beeping. I have tested all sticks in slot 1 and all worked fine, tested to run both sets individualy in dualchannel in all different combos and it all works fine, even with non matched rams it booted up. After some reading i found out that i may need to power up the northbridge voltage, i have tested and taken up the mch core to 1.6v and dram at 2.1v, works with 2 sticks but not with 4sticks, after days of testing i now more or less give up so im asking for some help or links, so i can enable my 8gb, im quite new to bios setting and stuff, so i be very grateful if someone can tell me whats wrong.

best regards Danne

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS4 (rev. 1.0) need help with 8gb ram installment

Wow, 1.6 MCH core is way to much, please don't do that anymore :)

Now, I am not sure if those revisions of sticks will work together or not, you may need to ask the guys at Corsair forums about that. If they say they will not, they will probably allow you to RMA the older kit for you so you can have matching sets if you ask nicely.

For now though I can help you try to get them going together. When you you mention beeps, is this many multiple beeps very fast? If so this is often caused by tRD (Static tRead Value) set to low, so if this is the case, set this to 7-9 with one kit installed and save/reboot then shut down from windows and install the second kit. You may want to make all the changes mentioned below with one kit in, then once done save/apply/reboot to windows then shut down and install the second kit.

Try these settings for stock CPU Speeds

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3Ghz


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.20B  << You may need to use 2.40B and run them at 800-1000Mhz, sometimes it is hard to get 8GB going at 1066Mhz without additional voltages and tweaking
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................ 5
tRCD ......................................... 5 
tRP'........................................... 5
tRAS.......................................... 15/18

Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD........................................... 3-4
tWTR.......................................... 3-6
tWR............................................ 4-8
tRFC........................................... 72-80
tRTP........................................... 4-5
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................ 1066 (May also try 800, as 1066 may not work at exactly 800Mhz ram speed, so try both no matter what speed you run the memory)

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:7-8
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:7-8
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]

[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << Set 1.225-1.25

CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.26-1.34
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

[b]DRAM[/b]
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1-2.15V
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[danne]

Re: GA-EP45-DS4 (rev. 1.0) need help with 8gb ram installment

Thank you for your fast reply.
I have set all the settings as above exept i havt tried to have tRD at 9 only to 8,
but no progress so far gonna test to set it at 9 an last time before i take connact with the rma guy. And yes its fast beebs mayby 9-10 then it auto reboot and same again.

[danne]

Re: GA-EP45-DS4 (rev. 1.0) need help with 8gb ram installment

No that did work niether.
at my last try now i had the settings

*Dram performance control*
System memory multiplier: 2.20b edit: ment 2.40b

*standard timing control*
cas latency time..................5
tRCD..................................5
tRP.....................................5
tRAS...................................18

*Advanced timing control*
tRRD..................................4
tWTR.................................6
tWR...................................8
tRFC...................................80
tRTP...................................5
command rate (cmd)..............2

*driving strength profiles*
driving strength...................800

*Channel A*
Static tread value.................9 have tested with 8 also

*channel B*
Static tread value.................9 have tested with 8 also

*Motherboard voltages*
Mch core.............................1.30v
Dram...................................2.14v

Rest of the settings is as u suggested above, do u think there may be anything else that i can change and see if it works? or shall i take contact with the rma dude.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS4 (rev. 1.0) need help with 8gb ram installment

Did you try 2.40B

[danne]

Re: GA-EP45-DS4 (rev. 1.0) need help with 8gb ram installment

yes, i wrote wrong up above. I tested both 3.20b and 2.40b.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS4 (rev. 1.0) need help with 8gb ram installment

Try 2.40B, tRFC 92, driving strength 1066, and MCH 1.32-1.34

You may need to adjust your MCH Ref, info on how this is done is linked in my signature (MCH GTL)

Try .70-.74 with 1.225 Vtt, and if no luck try .78-.84 with 1.225 Vtt. Set properly as mentioned in the above noted link, don't just set without reading the link as you must set it a certain way.