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  • #16
    Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

    Are you using the latest verison (2.3) of IBT?
    Use the default Threads = AUTO setting.
    With a 64 bit operating system, I thought that you would be able to test with more than 2048 MB of memory. You might be able to use the CUSTOM option and manually enter a value that is higher than 2048, but lower than the "Available" memory displayed in windows Task Manager in the "Physical Memory (K)" portion of the window. If 2048 MB is the most that you can test with, that is OK.

    Sometimes I've had IBT or Linx errors after loop 5.
    I use a 10 loop IBT as my initial stress test because it will sometimes display errors much quicker than Prime95, OCCT, or other stress tests. I've passed many IBT or LinX 10 loop tests, only to have one of the longer running stress test programs fail after 45 minutes, several hours, or sometimes after 10 - 18 hours.

    I have doubts about the 300 watt psu being adequate, unless it is a very high quality unit. Many cheap low power supplies can't put out their full rated power, or if they do, the power will not be clean and stable.
    Does the 300W psu have a 24-pin connector?
    Does it have an 8-pin EPS_12v connector?

    On my system, stress testing draws about 200 - 225 watts (not including the monitor) according to the wattage indicator display in my Zalman ZM-MFC2 unit.

    If you want to continue testing, increase MCH Core to 1.24 or 1.26 if necessary. If it were my system, I would wait until the 500 watt psu is installed and then continue testing.
    now i am doing it with standard high (2048MB) 10 loop test.
    and it gave an error about instability after 2nd test.
    Does this refer to testing using 5-5-5-15 primary memory timings at 1066MHz? If yes, you might want to test with DRAM Voltage = 2.22 volts or possibly 2.10 volts.

    I think the best test is to do some gaming and just use your system until your regular psu can be installed.

    ** edit ** I have a 3 year oldThermalTake 430W (retired) psu. A year after I bought it, I read a detailed review that said the psu was an excellent 340 watt[!!] psu, and it couldn't deliver its full power. Hopefully their newer units are much better.
    Last edited by profJim; 03-01-2010, 12:58 PM.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    • #17
      Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

      thanks again

      yes I did dram voltage 2.1V as you suggested.(Which originally it says 2.2~2.3V in original kingston for 1066MHz, and its 1.8V for my mainboard)

      and passed IBT 10 loop , Memtest86+ 8 times and prime95 for only 3 hours now. I have to stop computer for now gonna test more :)
      Last edited by Jhay82; 03-03-2010, 05:03 AM.

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      • #18
        Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

        Also should I change my Drams with Gskill trident 8500 1.8V 1066 5-5-5-15 dual ? or any other suggestions? Isnt that 2.2~2.3V is a bit higher and it is unstable using 2.1V with those Kingstons?
        What is that "1.8V DRAM slots" wrtten on my mainboard specification?
        And is it max Voltage Values for the Kingston? that 2.2~2.3V?

        also with this setup IBT & Memtest are okay. after 8~9hours 1 worker gave 1 error on prime95 but others worked perfectly in 11~12hours.
        Last edited by Jhay82; 03-03-2010, 05:50 AM.

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        • #19
          Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

          1.8v is the standard v for ddr2 memory.
          Value ram or the ram that comes with a dell say will work off this voltage.
          Performance ram generally has a performance profile. The sticker on your ram sticks.
          Most performance ddr2 ram seems to operate at around 2.1V at its best speed .
          Some are less than that some are a bit more.
          My ram is certified to run at 1.8-1.9v at 800mhz with 4-4-4-12 timings and it does on this board.
          It also runs at 1000mhz at 5-5-5-15 with 2.2 v in bios but thats a persona lthing.It wont run at 1066mhz (for me) well actually it will but at a crazy voltage ,but with a practical limit of 500 cpu ref for my processor I would gain nothing by getting 1066mhz memory on this setup.I would need some really good ddr2(expensive) 1200mhz memory to run with a 2:4 multiplier and even then unless i loosened out the memory timings ,I might exceed the chipsets limitations,
          Your cpu should be capable of working with a 480 cpu ref without going crazy.As long as you can get your present memory to work on a 2:00 multiplier at something near that .say 960 mhz . you might be wasting money on different memory.
          If you can get the memory working with decent timings at 450-500 cpu ref with a 2:00 D multiplier or say 460 cpu ref with a 2:4 B multiplier it wont get much better than that.. explore your present memory limitations first .
          Last edited by kick; 03-03-2010, 04:46 PM.
          Current Systems:

          Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
          Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
          Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
          8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
          60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
          GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
          Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

          HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

          hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
          http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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          • #20
            Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

            I agree with Kick, your current memory will probably work out fine.

            The heat spreaders on the G.Skill Trident model are quite tall, almost twice as tall as memory with standard heat spreaders. This might cause fitment problems with some cpu heatsink/fan combinations.
            If you want to overclock your cpu higher than 445 - 458MHz, you will have to use one of the two 2.00 memory multipliers, which means that your final memory speed will be in the 900 - 1000MHz range.

            My memory is running at 984MHz (2.00 x 492) with 5-5-4-12 primary memory timings.
            Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
            P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
            4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
            MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
            Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
            WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
            Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
            SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
            Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
            Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
            Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
            MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
            Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
            HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
            CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
            E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
            Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
            Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
            HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
            win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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            • #21
              Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

              well thanks guys, after your last comments i felt like i had to change my ram
              and got one at my sig now. Just waiting for power supply to get my cpu overclocked. But I am not sure if I can get 1:1 with 1000+ MHz and with this cooler.
              I may want to use kick's q8200 q8400 overclock settings but some values are different on my mainboard?
              Last edited by Jhay82; 03-08-2010, 06:58 PM.

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              • #22
                Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

                Are you using the stock Intel heat-sink/fan setup?
                In not, what brand/model heat-sink and fan are you using?
                Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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                • #23
                  Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

                  i got a cooler master

                  something like that http://www.gold.com.tr/LASTIMG/URUN/...r_lga775_b.jpg

                  but it isnt shown at official coolermaster web site. it says 4 pin 775 fan as a model on box.

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                  • #24
                    Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

                    Check out the Cooler Master's Standard Desktop Cooler Comparison Chart.
                    Your setup should be one of the coolers in the top two rows.

                    It looks like your cooler is a higher performance version of the stock Intel cooler.
                    Hopefully it will provide better cooling than the stock cpu cooler.

                    At the CM site, I clicked on Products --> Desktop to get to this page.
                    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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                    • #25
                      Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

                      Thanks profJim
                      I first used global site. Well none of this desktop products even.
                      But in here Legacy products
                      Cooler Master - Products
                      My fan is that one. Because the only that type of fan is that one. 4 pin 775 and this is the only one that have the fan plastic not completely surrounds fan propeller.

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                      • #26
                        Re: EP45-UD3LR with Q8300 optimization

                        With 4500 maximum rpm and 57.7 cfm, your fan will certainly move a lot of air.
                        When you're running stress tests, hopefully your maximum overclocked core temperatures will be about 50 - 55 (C) with Prime95 or OCCT, and between 60 - 65 degrees with IBT or LinX.

                        When you're done with your stress testing at stock cpu speeds, post your current bios settings and a screen-shot similar to your earlier post.
                        We can start with a 20% o/c to 3.0GHz with memory at 960MHz.
                        If cpu core temps are still OK, we'll o/c until we find the limit.
                        Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
                        P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
                        4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
                        MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
                        Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
                        WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
                        Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
                        SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
                        Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
                        Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
                        Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
                        MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
                        Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
                        HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
                        CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
                        E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
                        Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
                        Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
                        HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
                        win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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