EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

[Chike]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Try the following

MB INTELLIGENT TWEAKER (M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster-----------------:Fast
CPU Clock Ratio-------------------------:[COLOR=red][B]8[/B][/COLOR]x  <<< may begin with 7 for 2.8GHz 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio--------------------:0.0
CPU Frequency---------------------------:3.20GHz(400x8)
CLOCK Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control------------------:Enabled
CPU Host Frequency(Mhz)-----------------:[COLOR=red][B]400[/B][/COLOR]
PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)--------------:100
C.I.A.2---------------------------------:Disabled
Advanced Clock Control------------------:[Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive-------------------------:800mv
PCI Express Clock Drive-----------------:900mv
CPU Clock Skew--------------------------:0ps
MCH Clock Skew--------------------------:0ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhanced--------------------:Standard
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)----------:[[COLOR=red][B]profile1[/B][/COLOR]]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch------------------:Auto
System Memory Multiplier(SPD)-----------:[COLOR=red][B]3.33D[/B][/COLOR] <<< 4.00D later
Memory Frequency(Mhz)----1333-----------:1333
DRAM Timing Selectable--(SPD)-----------:Manual
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time-----------------------9:7
tRCD-----------------------------------9:8
tRP------------------------------------9:7
tRAS----------------------------------24:24
Advance Timing Control
tRRD-----------------------------------4:[COLOR=red][B]Auto[/B][/COLOR]
tWTR-----------------------------------5:[COLOR=red][B]Auto[/B][/COLOR]
tWR-----------------------------------10:[COLOR=red][B]Auto[/B][/COLOR]
tRFC----------------------------------74:[COLOR=red][B]Auto[/B][/COLOR]
tRTP-----------------------------------5:[COLOR=red][B]Auto[/B][/COLOR]
Command Rate (CMD)---------------------0:2
Channel A Timing------------------------:[Press Enter]
Static tRead Value----------------------:[COLOR=red][B]12[/B][/COLOR] <<< try to lower later
Everything below "AUTO"
Driving Strength Profile----------------:Auto(only)
Channel B Timing------------------------:[Press Enter]
Static tRead Value----------------------:[COLOR=red][B]12[/B][/COLOR] <<< try to lower later
Everything Below "AUTO"
Driving Strength Profile----------------:Auto(only)
Mother Board Voltage Control
CPU
Load-Line Calibration-------------------:Disabled
CPU Vcore-----------------1.2750v-------:1.30625
CPU Termination-----------1.200v--------:1.240
CPU PLL-------------------1.500v--------:1.500
CPU Reference-------------0.760v--------:Auto
MCH/ICH
MCH CORE------------------1.100v--------:1.200 [B]<< try more, up to 1.28[/B]
MCH Reference-------------0.760v--------:Auto
MCH/DRAM Reference--------0.750v--------:Auto
ICH I/O-------------------1.500v--------:1.500
ICH Core------------------1.100v--------:1.100
DRAM
DRAM Voltage--------------1.500v--------:1.35 (1 click up is 1.45)(ET6/1.426)???
DRAM Termination----------o.750v--------:Auto
Ch-A Data VRef.-----------0.750v--------:Auto
Ch-B Data VRef.-----------0.750v--------:Auto
Ch-A Address Ref.---------0.750v--------:Auto
Ch-B Address Ref.---------0.750v--------:Auto

MCH Core may need to be adjusted, read http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/how-...asytune-29746/

In more simple words:
1. Set VTT(CPU Termination) to 1.2v
2. adjust MCH Reference to the desired value
3. set VTT back to the original value

The same procedure applys to CPU Reference

[wibujo]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike, Thanks for getting me back on track - I used your settings with success.Using the 3.33B Strap I was able to OC with little or no problem.I was able to get stable at 3.20GHz, 3.40GHz, 3.60GHz and 3.80GHz.All passed 3 passes of Memtest 86+ and Prime95 Blend for 3 hrs.I'm currently running the 3.20 GHz setting.I'm still a little confused about the MCH/CPU Reference adjustments.I read the thread you posted for it at least 10 times - tried making ajustments - not sure whats going on.
I managed to get the 4.00D Strap / 3.60GHz to work "some what".I had at least 30 plus BSOD's before I managed to get to my desktop."Very unstable" Failed IBT Standard Test after 2 passes.Froze up after running 15 to 20 minutes.I was just wanting to check in with you so you would know where I'm at with the "tweaking".What information do I need to send you???THANKS AGAIN

[profJim]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Parallel Port Mode-----------:ECP+EPP(was SSP)
ECP Mode Use DMA [3]---------:??????

The default value should be fine. This is the setting that I use for my parallel port scanner. The only time you will need to change the default setting is if the windows device manager shows a conflict with the DMA = 3 default setting.

[Chike]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Have you tried the 3.33D multiplier? If the D strab multipliers do not work maybe 4.00B would.

There is a short version to the MCH/CPU reference link just below it.

Any time settings are in question, pust full settings.

Memory frequency is not that important, the real gain in memory performance comes from higher FSB. Perhepse you can use 6-7-6-20 timings with DDR-1333 settings, that will give about the same performance as DDR-1600 with looser timings if not the same with your current 400MHz FSB.

[wibujo]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Thanks Chike and profJim.I have to go to work right now - when I get home I'll send you some information.I don't need my RAM to run 1600 - I just thought it should - since that is what G.Skill Forums said this is the RAM to use with this MOBO.Runs great 3.33D Strap /1333 with 400 CPU Host Frequency.Thanks again

[Chike]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Could you also posta screen capture of MemSet main screen?

[wibujo]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike , I've given up on the 4.00D and 4.00B Straps.When I have more time I'll work on them. I plan on running 3.60GHz all the time and this is the most stable out of the 3 I've been working with.Here's my settings - Could I get your opinion on what voltages or timings I should change?

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster --------------- : [Fast]
CPU Clock Ratio ----------------------- : [9x]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ------------------ : [0.0]
CPU Frequency ------------------------- : [3.60GHz(400x9)]
Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control ---------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ---------------: [400]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ----------- : [100]
C.I.A.2 ------------------------------- : [Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control -------- [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive ----------------------- : 800
PCI Express Clock Drive --------------- : 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------- : 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------- : 0ps
DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance -------- (SPD) ---- : [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Profile 1]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ----- (SPD) ---- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [3.33D]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ------[1600]---- : [1333]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- [7] --------- : [7]
tRCD ------------------- [8] --------- : [8]
tRP --------------------- [7] --------- : [7]
tRAS ------------------ [24] --------- : [24]
Advanced Timing Control
tRRD ------------------- [5] --------- : [5]
tWTR ------------------- [6] --------- : [6]
tWR ---------------------[12] --------- : [12]
tRFC -------------------[88] --------- : [88]
tRTP --------------------[6] --------- : [6]
Command Rate (CMD) -------[0] --------- : [2]
Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ---------- [Auto only] : [Auto]
Channel A
Static tRead Value ---------------- [9] : [9]
Auto everything below
Channel B
Static tRead Value ---------------- [9] : [9]
Auto everything below
Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current ---
Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.27500v ---- : [1.325](1.296 idle)(1.264-1.28 Prime95)
CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [1.260]
CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [1.500]
CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [Auto]
CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto](Not in my BIOS)
MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.240]
MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.750V ------ : [Auto]
ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500]
ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.500V ------- : [1.35]
DRAM Termination -------- 0.750V ------- : [Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef.---------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef.---------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]
Ch-A Address Ref.-------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]
Ch-B Address Ref.-------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]
Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]

[Chike]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Voltages look OK.
I would leave all advanced memory timings auto, and try standart timings 6-7-6-20, then try to lower tRD(Static tRead Value) of both channels to 8 or 7 if possible.

[wibujo]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike, The settings you gave me worked great.I ran 3 passes Memtest86+ - no errors. I ran Prime95 4 hrs. - no errors.I also ran OCCT 1hr. and IBT Standard test.Things are looking great on this end.Where should I go from here?

[Chike]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike, The settings you gave me worked great.I ran 3 passes Memtest86+ - no errors. I ran Prime95 4 hrs. - no errors.I also ran OCCT 1hr. and IBT Standard test.

Usually for OC it's recommended to run 8+ hors of Prime blend.
Also next time run IBT at mac stress level, results look good though. What are core temps for IBT?

Can you post a screen capture of just to satisfied my curiousity about memory performance?

Things are looking great on this end.Where should I go from here?

First of all save a BIOS profile, F11 in main BIOS screen, you can also save it on a USB flash drive for backup.

Where do you want to go? 3.7/3.8GHz?

[wibujo]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike, Do you think my RIG will be OK running 3.8GHz - If so - I'm all for it. If you think I should stay with the current settings I'll run Prime95 Blend for 8 hrs. "more if necessary" When I ran IBT Standard Test my case fans were on medium - I seen the temp hit 60c for a brief second - but Temps stayed around 58c.I just ran IBT Max with case fans on HIGH - here's a screen shot of the test and temps.I've also included the MaxxMEM2 Test.Am I supposed to leave my advanced timings on AUTO??? I also saved my current settings in BIOS.
Thanks Again

[Chike]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike, Do you think my RIG will be OK running 3.8GHz - If so - I'm all for it. If you think I should stay with the current settings I'll run Prime95 Blend for 8 hrs. "more if necessary"

Possibly even more, it all depends on your temperatures and how comfortable you feel with the voltages that will be required.
You are making the rules. The stress tests are ran the greater is the assurance of system stability, it's a matter of probability. You may leave it for later if you plan moving to higher OC.

When I ran IBT Standard Test my case fans were on medium - I seen the temp hit 60c for a brief second - but Temps stayed around 58c.I just ran IBT Max with case fans on HIGH - here's a screen shot of the test and temps.

This is interesting, it's the second time I see that CPU temps(TMPIN1) is higher than core temps. The other one was Brigs I think, with a Q9550.
Is the same temperature(CPU) reported by EasyTune HWMonitor?

Am I supposed to leave my advanced timings on AUTO??? I also saved my current settings in BIOS.

I wouldn't bother with advanced timings. You may try to lower tRFC to 70 or 68 for a little improvement. Not worth it IMO.
Results are better than mine with DDR-1066 and 400MHz FSB, except the latency.

[wibujo]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike, Man you got my curosity up.I have never run the MaxxMEM2 on my Core2Duo RIG before.I put the results below.If I can't get my Q9650 RIG to run as good as my Core2Duo RIG - I probably won't sell it to my brother.I guess what I'm trying to say is - Lets push the Q9650 RIG harder.It's only money.lol

[Chike]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Good is what you call it. Wven with it's current OC the C2D won't match 75% of the Quad's IBT results, it will beat it in SuperPI test.
The memory performance will probably can be matched using the same FSB and lower CPU frequency.
Memory performance are not that important, depend of the saftware being used of course.

Please post the current settings you had in the screen capture.

[wibujo]

Re: EP45T-USB3P problem with PSU

Chike here's my current settings.



MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster --------------- : [Fast]
CPU Clock Ratio ----------------------- : [9x]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ------------------ : [0.0]
CPU Frequency ------------------------- : [3.60GHz(400x9)]

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control ---------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ---------------: [400]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ----------- : [100]
C.I.A.2 ------------------------------- : [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control -------- [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive ----------------------- : 800
PCI Express Clock Drive --------------- : 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------- : 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------- : 0ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance -------- (SPD) ---- : [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Profile 1]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ----- (SPD) ---- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [3.33D]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ------[1600]---- : [1333]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- [7] --------- : [6]
tRCD ------------------- [8] --------- : [7]
tRP --------------------- [7] --------- : [6]
tRAS ------------------ [24] --------- : [20]

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD ------------------- [5] --------- : [Auto]
tWTR ------------------- [6] --------- : [Auto]
tWR ---------------------[12] --------- : [Auto]
tRFC -------------------[88] --------- : [Auto]
tRTP --------------------[6] --------- : [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) -------[0] --------- : [Auto]

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ---------- [Auto only] : [Auto]

Channel A
Static tRead Value ---------------- [9] : [7]
Auto everything below

Channel B
Static tRead Value ---------------- [9] : [7]
Auto everything below

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current ---
Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.27500v ---- : [1.325]
CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [1.260]
CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [1.500]
CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [Auto]
CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto]

MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.240]
MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.750V ------ : [Auto]
ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500]
ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.500V ------- : [1.35]
DRAM Termination -------- 0.750V ------- : [Auto]
Ch-A Data VRef.---------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]
Ch-B Data VRef.---------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]
Ch-A Address Ref.-------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]
Ch-B Address Ref.-------- 0.750v ------- : [Auto]

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]