GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

[icecoldcube]

Good morning all,

I would like to share my problems with my setup with you all and see if you have any pointers. At the moment my setup consists of the following components:

• GA-EP45-DS3P (E9C BIOS release)
• 8GB Kingston (2 x KHX8500DK2/4G)
• Intel Q6700
• 2 x 500GB RAID 0 Seagate
• Palit Nvidia GT240
• AC Freezor 7 Pro cooler
• Cooler master case
• Antec 400W silent PSU
• Windows 7 64 bit Ult

The system was built around easter time and since then I have been suffering from BSODs. To try and combat this I have had a new board, GPU, RAM (replaced Cosair 8GB yesterday) and tried lots of suggestions from the forums around voltages/settings etc

After reading many of the posts by others and lots of advice from people on this forum I seem to be missing something. I'm not an expert PC builder but I've never had a machine causing instabilities like this.

At the moment I don't care about overclocking and would like to get the machine to run correctly without BSODs every couple of days.

The BSODs vary from - BAD_POOL_HEADER & INVALID_PAGE_FAULT - people may say check the memory I have tried 2 brands with new stuff added yesterday I also RMA'ed the old stuff.

Here's my settings so far (I guess they need some adjustments?)

Thank you for any help.


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66 ghz(266x10)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0 ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0 ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [TURBO]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: missing
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [AUTO]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................5
tRP'...........................................5
tRAS..........................................18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................Aut o (3)
tWTR..........................................Auto (3)
tWR............................................Aut o (6)
tRFC...........................................Aut o (52)
tRTP...........................................Aut o (3)
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:(Auto)

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................Auto

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control

CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:Auto
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:Auto
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......:Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:Auto

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: Auto
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: Auto
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <AUTO itxtvisited="1">

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] - cant see this one
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]


Thanks / Cheers.

Dave

[Chike]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Please re-check the posted settings, some are bogus, like CPU Frequency and CPU Host Frequency.
Is this your ram? If not please find the link to it's specs.
Try MCH Core 1.2-1.28v, more DRAM Voltage may be needed, try setting it manually to ram sepc voltage.

Please add your system specs to your forum signature, including a link to ram specs.
A screen capture of MemSet main(click >>) and SPD(click spd) windows will also be helpful.
MemSet can be downloaded from http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/late...30/#post284762

[icecoldcube]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Thanks for your prompt response.

I will check the settings I noted using the template of another post and look set the settings recommended by yourself.

Will update.

Dave

[Chike]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Run a few passes of memtest86+ before starting windows.
It won't detect all wrong settings but will if there a major problem with them.
Memory problems may lead to corrupted files/file system, so ot's better to avoid them as possible.

[icecoldcube]

CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66 ghz(266x10)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock ControlVirtualization Technology................: [Enabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]


-------------------------------------------------
GA-EP45-DS3P Rev: A3 (F9C bios)
Intel Core 2 Quad E6700 2.66GHz STOCK settings
8GB Kingston (2 x KHX8500DK2/4G)
2 x 500GB RAID 0 Seagate
Palit Nvidia GT240
AC Freezor 7 Pro cooler
Cooler master case
Powercool 450W PSU
Windows 7 64 bit Ult
Samsung 22" + NEC 17"

[Chike]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

The ram is rated 1066 and currently running at 800. Try to get it stable at 800 and then maybe 1066 which may not be possible with 8GB.
If you still having problems:
Set Performance Enhance standard
Try more DRAM Voltage 1.9-2.1v
Increase MCH Core graduatly up to 1.3v

Please add the ram data sheet link to your signature.

[icecoldcube]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Thanks will look at changing this .

Will update with progress.

cheers
Dave

[icecoldcube]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Hello,

I need to still update my signature (sorry)

Tried RAM @ 1066 running 4GB worked, but 8GB would not boot. I managed to get it working by giving the RAM 2.3 Volts but this caused a BSOD......

4GB works but I'm guessing 8GB with these strict timings may not be possible.

Dave

[Chike]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Try DDR-800 first, this should be easier to achive. with default 5-5-5-18 tnen tighter timings 4-5-5-15 to 4-4-4-12. Won't be much difference from 1066 if at all with 266FSB.
When you manage a stable settings save BIOS profile (F11 in main BIOS screen) that is easy to restore (F12 in main BIOS screen).

Without the setting used there is not much to comment about, so please post them each time you want an advise.

[icecoldcube]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Thanks will do.

Cheers for assistance.


Dave

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

I agree, 8GB is just not going to run at 1066 without crazy voltages, best to try for 800-1000

For 8GB you may need to use 1.24-1.3 MCH Core

[icecoldcube]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Cheers for replies (I know I still need to update my signature).

Tried 4gb @ 1066 and it ran ok, but with 8GB would not boot, as you have stated will cause issues.

Running 8GB at 800mhz and been running ok all day today, will get a more detailed update with setting tomorrow/Wednesday.

Cheers

Dave

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Ya, I would actually start with 800-900 maybe for 8GB, like you have. Then once you get it stable that way you could try more.

Good luck tweaking and post back anytime once you get time and if you need more help

[icecoldcube]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Thanks for all of the input so far, its seems to have improved the stability of the system.

Since Monday I have had no BSOD and the machine has been entering sleep and waking up with sucess. I have also upped the processor speed. I didnt manage to get the memory running @ 1066 with 8GB (4GB worked) so I worked on the timings.

I assume running as these timings settings is better than stock? How does the rest of the settings look?

Still need to let Prime run over night, but have used machine normaly with know problems.

Cheers all.


Current settings are as follows:
My settings


MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.33 ghz(333x10)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto
C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0 ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0 ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: missing
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [MANUAL]
Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................4
tRCD .........................................4
tRP'...........................................4
tRAS..........................................12
Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................Aut o (3)
tWTR..........................................Auto (3)
tWR............................................Aut o (6)
tRFC...........................................Aut o (52)
tRTP...........................................Aut o (3)
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:(Auto)
Driving Strength Profiles A & B
Driving Strength ............................Auto
Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:6 Auto
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
DDR Write Training..........................Auto
Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:7 Auto
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:1 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
DDR Write Training..........................Auto
Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.3700
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:Auto
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:Auto
CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......:Auto
CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:Auto
MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.24
MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Auto
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
Channel B Reference 0.900V............:
Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] - cant see this one
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]
Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]

-------------------------------------------------
GA-EP45-DS3P Rev: A3 (F9C bios)
Intel Core 2 Quad E6700 2.66GHz STOCK settings
8GB Kingston (2 x KHX8500DK2/4G)
2 x 500GB RAID 0 Seagate
Palit Nvidia GT240
AC Freezor 7 Pro cooler
Cooler master case
Powercool 450W PSU
Windows 7 64 bit Ult
Samsung 22" + NEC 17"

[Chike]

Re: GA-EP45-DS3P - BSOD/Stability problems

Can you please post a screen capture of CPU-Z CPU tab, and also one of EasyTune -> Tuner -> advanced > Voltage tab?
There no E6700 quad processor AFAIK.
Timings look ok, check what Performance Level MeSet show, you may be able to set it as low as 5 (Static tRead Value in BIOS).
Have you tried higher MCH Core for DDR-1066? also try to set Driving Strength 1066 for both channels, and more DRAM Voltage.
What are the load core temperatures for current OC?