trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

[Sparperetor]

hello to everyone!
i'm experiencing bad trouble with my motherboard...i assembled my computer in march and it ran fine until a month ago.Then it began giving random windows bsod...
so i disconnected the hd and i ran a linux live rescue cd.I started browsing with it,and after some time it crashed!
So we can assume it's not a windows related problem,neither hd related.
If i run memtest,it can go ahead for 3 hours and perhaps more with no errors.But sometimes,if i reboot after a crash and run memtest,i get tons of errors!however this does not happen every time:most time if i run memtest after a crash i get no errors.It's random,and it happens with both memory module.(and yes i already tried with a module at once,in different memory slots)
So i tried to:
1)update the bios
2)relax timings
3)set the ram performance enhance to standard
4)disable usb legacy support
5)disable the epp
6)raise mch core voltage to 1.2v
7)I tried with another psu
8)i buyed another stick of ram(of a different brand)
note:before you ask,ram voltage is ok,2.1v for the 1066mhz corsair modules and standard 1.8v for the new kingstone module.

Unfortunately the problem is still here.
i seriously suspect it's a motherboard issue...i'm going to send it in rma...

or maybe it's a cpu or vga issue?i think it is not...but i am not sure.
any help will be appreciated.
:D

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

What BSOD Codes are you seeing? They look like this 0x00000000 for example

If you are using 4GB you may need 1.24 MCH Core, and or some boards work better with less than stock such as 1.0-1.1

I really would need to know the code to better advise you, as it cold be anything such as a program or virus/spyware, or a driver or incorrect setting in your BIOS.

It would really not be anything to do with the board itself, so no need to RMA your board. Boards do not cause BSOD's, this is normally as said above, driver, programs, settings, viruses/spyware, or could be faulty drives or GFX related issues. There is no board specific BSOD or anyway a board would really cause one, if a board was bad it would not start or do something else random or funny but not give crashes or BSOD's like you are seeing.

For now, give me your full settings (Template in my signature) and specs/link to the memory you are currently using and I will advise back changes to try. Be sure you are using the latest BIOS and are starting with optimized defaults and not Fail Safe.

Also, if you can give me the BSOD codes. If you are unsure, can you cause the BSOD or does it happen often? If so I can show you how to disable automatic restart on BSOD and then you can get the code next time it happens as it will remain on screen until you restart the system manually.

[Sparperetor]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

First of all,thank you for the answer :)
Then sorry for the delay but i have tested the system's stability with the new memory module for the last two days.

bsod appeared quite often with corsair memory...now with kingstone memory i can even achieve 12 hours uptime. Luckily i found a certain method to obtain a bsod without waiting...it seems that opening and closing a pdf file with my pdf viewer can do the trick...uhmmm...infact this is the only method to cause bsod with kingstone module(till now,perhaps two day of testing are not enough).So the system was unstable with corsair and now it's about 90% stable...something has changed,but it's not ok yet....i am quite puzzled

Anyway,the error message is "page_fault_in_nonpaged_area"
The error code is 0x00000050 (0xffff00f8,0x00000000,0x8054b51a,0x00000000)

my specs:
cpu:core2duo e8400
mobo:gigabyte ep45 ud3r rev 1.0
bios:f11(it's the latest)
psu:ocz stealthxstream 500w
(i also tried an old enermax noisetaker 485watt with no results)
vga:sparkle geforce 7900gs
ram:2x1 gb corsair dominator cm2x1024-8500c5d
ram:the new memory module i bought two days ago to make sure that it was not ram's fault is a 1 gb module by kingstone kvr800d2n5/1g)

It would really not be anything to do with the board itself, so no need to RMA your board. Boards do not cause BSOD's, this is normally as said above, driver, programs, settings, viruses/spyware, or could be faulty drives or GFX related issues. There is no board specific BSOD or anyway a board would really cause one, if a board was bad it would not start or do something else random or funny but not give crashes or BSOD's like you are seeing.

[CoolMaster]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

memory freq at 800?

[Sparperetor]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

memory freq at 800?

Yes,why do you ask?What's strange?

[Chike]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

Do both Corsair sticks fail memtest86+ when tested indivifually with Performance Enhance starndard and XMP disabled?
Do they fail in other slots as well?

WDIT what version of memtest86+ are you using?

[Sparperetor]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

Do both Corsair sticks fail memtest86+ when tested indivifually with Performance Enhance starndard and XMP disabled?
Do they fail in other slots as well?

WDIT what version of memtest86+ are you using?

Yes they do.One stick failed twice,the other stick failed once,in total memtest failed three times .However most times memtest worked fine...it's quite random. I have had many bsod but few memtest failures...whatever is going wrong, lasts for little time and only occasionally it lasts enough to let me detect with memtest... no matter what slot is in use,there are always troubles with that ram. Luckily with the kingstone stick things are going better,but it's not ok yet.

[Chike]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

The kingston crash or fail memtest86+ too?

[Sparperetor]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

Till now,the only way to cause a bsod with the kingstone stick is to open and close a pdf file with my pdf viewer,otherwise the system is stable,but i tested this stick only for the last three days,maybe there are other ways... I forgot to tell you,i am using memtest86+ 4.0.
I have not detected a memtest86+ failure with the kingstone stick yet

[Chike]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

This is strange, same BSOD every time? What error code?

[Sparperetor]

Re: trouble with gigabyte ep45 ud3r,bsod ram related

page_fault_in_nonpaged_area
0x00000050

[Lsdmeasap]

[Sparperetor]

Kingston Technology Company - Kingston Memory Search - Search Results for: KVR800D2N5/1G
Strangely enough,i did not find the datasheet of the corsair sticks on the corsair site,nor a page with their specification on the internet,but there is written on them they need 2.1 volt and they are rated 5-5-5-15 at 1066 mhz...

[asiasi2]

The Bsod Sparperetor is because.....

Gigabyte ud3l , ud3r have the same issue in ram

i have ud3l the same p45 chip like the ud3r

my pc -
motherboard |Gigabyte : p45ud3l cpu : intel q9400
Pcpower - 500w
ati radeon 4770 512mb
crosair 2X1 1066 cl5
i have try to install 2X2gb patriot extreme and guess??
almost 4 ,5 minutes blue screen
i take this 4gb patriot to another computer (c2d 7500 ,gigabyte p35 ds4)
boom work great (great? wowww win 7 is on + vmware and win7 = 2 win 7 !!) ram is get 7.2 in score (win7 expirence rate)
so dude the problem is the mainboard i send mail to gigabyte
they say: blablabla change the bios to default,replace the ram ....)
well the problem is the mainboard p45 has ram moudle that is not flex
and maybee its 100 or 1000 mainboard with this problem bad series

[Sparperetor]

Re: The Bsod Sparperetor is because.....

Gigabyte ud3l , ud3r have the same issue in ram

i have ud3l the same p45 chip like the ud3r

my pc -
motherboard |Gigabyte : p45ud3l cpu : intel q9400
Pcpower - 500w
ati radeon 4770 512mb
crosair 2X1 1066 cl5
i have try to install 2X2gb patriot extreme and guess??
almost 4 ,5 minutes blue screen
i take this 4gb patriot to another computer (c2d 7500 ,gigabyte p35 ds4)
boom work great (great? wowww win 7 is on + vmware and win7 = 2 win 7 !!) ram is get 7.2 in score (win7 expirence rate)
so dude the problem is the mainboard i send mail to gigabyte
they say: blablabla change the bios to default,replace the ram ....)
well the problem is the mainboard p45 has ram moudle that is not flex
and maybee its 100 or 1000 mainboard with this problem bad series

you have trouble with both corsair and patriot memory?
you could try with the same kingstone memory that i am using,the system is running quite fine with it.
Moreover i will send corsair sticks in rma. As soon as i get them back,i will try to see if there is incompatibility between ram and mobo and i will tell you...