Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

[HowardB]

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

UD5 is great, have one myself

Please download the latest version for your easytune issues, sounds like you may be using a older on >>
GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - Utility

The boot issues you mention are normal, when overclocked the BIOS checks and reboots then applies the settings then boots. This saves you from OS corruption

Try setting 1.66 Vdimm, this should be about 1.64-1.65. TO run 2000Mhz ram you are going to need to find and set your own voltages for a few things to what your particular CPU likes/needs such as QPI/Vtt, QPI PLL, IOH, and Vdimm. Often it will also help to use more than normal Uncore for higher memory speeds such as 2x +2 instead of 2x the ram multi.

Give me your current full settings and I can help for sure. Sounds like you may need help getting things going and may be missing something causing you not to be able to adjust things like you would expect.

This could also very well be BIOS bug issues, did you find the same troubles with the older BIOSes? Have you tried the latest? If not you may want to try it out (F9k)

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/28/2024082/ex58ud5.F9k.zip

[HowardB]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

Hi Lsd,

Thx for the quick reply. Does your info on the double boot as a normal expected process come from Gigabyte? cos there are literally 100's of posts out there from worried owners complaining about it. I myself have not seen it as common event for any other board I have used and I have used quite a few.

I have not tried F9k although I have it downloaded. I cannot find any blurb on it that tells me what it is supposed to improve/fix so havent used it ... yet. I flashed with F9e during the build so havent used any earlier BIOS versions

The link you gave me for Easytune6 certainly has the same file name as the version I downloaded, installed and then found not to work, didnt check the version numbers tho so will try again with the file downloaded from the link you provided

As for the settings on the modest OC of my i7 920 /w D0 stepping they are:

MIT settings

CPU clock Ratio: 20 (cant set it any higher)
BCLK: 160
CPU Frequency 3.2 GHz
Adv CPU features: untouched
QPI clock ratio: Auto
QPI Link speed 5.76 GHz (Auto)
Uncore and QPI features: untouched
Advanced Clk control: untouched
System memory modifier (SPD): 12 (memory runs at 1920 MHz)
DRAM Timing Selectable = Quick
CAS = 7
tRCD = 8
tRP = 7
tRAS = 20
Command Rate = Auto (system sets it to 1)
Advanced DRAM features: untouched
Load line calibration: disabled
VCore: Auto (results in 1.36V setting according to CPU-Z)
QPI/Vtt Voltage = Auto
DRAM voltage = 1.64 manual setting (but actually 1.616 on PCHealth page)
IOH Core (set manual 1.1V)
Advanced Voltage control untouched

In advanced setting I do not have turbo mode on instead it is set to standard

As said earlier once it boots these settings are stable and reliable but any further tweeking results in a non-boot and CMOS clear. The CPU is cooled by a corsair H50 water cooler

Hope that helps any feedback or advice greatly appreciated

thanks again

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

I am more speaking of Triple reboot process as a self check test, I made a video of this being normal when overclocked here for another user who was unsure.

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ga-p55-ud4p-computer-has-trouble-booting-36483/#post333835

Yes Gigabyte explains this is how a overclock is checked and tested before applied so that your OC is not applied and then fails and corrupts your system >>


Easytune will always have the same file name, please uninstall the one you are using and download the latest one linked above and then install it. If you still can't start it let me know, you may need to try a newer BIOS which would be suggested anyway.

If you need help with your settings, which it sounds like, please fill out a template linked in my signature so I can see all your settings then I will advise back

[HowardB]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

Hi LSD,

Not much different from details already posted but I have used your template as requested, look forward to the feedback

CPU = Model Intel i7 920 D0 stepping
Motherboard = Gigabyte EX58-UD5 version 1.0
BIOS Version = F9e
Ram = 3x 2GB OCZ Blade PC3 16000 OCZ Technology | Products | Memory | OCZ DDR3 PC3-16000 Blade Series Low Voltage Triple Channel
2xGTX275 in SLI Mode
Creative X-Fi Fatality Titanium Sound Card
Corsair H50 water cooled CPU solution
Silverstone TJ9 case
Windows 7 Professional installed

Code:
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. Auto (system sets to x36)
Uncore Frequency .......................... Auto(5.7 GHz)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 160
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... Auto [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................Auto [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... Auto [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. Auto [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. Auto[0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ x12 (memory runs at a final frequency of1920MHz with a 3.2GHz OC on the i7 in place)
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick]
Channel A + B + C
Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................7
tRCD ..................................8
tRP ...................................7
tRAS ..................................20
Below values all left on Auto For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................
tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................
##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
CPU Vcore ............................... Auto (CPU-Z records as being 1.36V)
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ Auto
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................Auto
MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... Auto
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... Auto
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... Manual 1.1V
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... Auto
ICH Core 1.1v ........................
DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.64 (CPU-Z records as actually being 1.62V)
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

You do realize you have your ram set to 1920Mhz right? Those timings are not going to work at all like that.

Also some CPU's do not like even multi's, just a heads up. So you may want to reconsider your overclock using x19 or x21 CPU multi. For now though I will advise you on what you are currently using, correcting your memory speed of course

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. Auto (system sets to x36) << Can use x36 or x44
Uncore Frequency .......................... Auto(5.7 GHz) << Manually set to x20-x22 for x10 memory multi
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 160
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... Auto [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................Auto [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... Auto [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. Auto [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. Auto[0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ x12 (memory runs at a final frequency of1920MHz with a 3.2GHz OC on the i7 in place) << Way to much for this memory, maybe not with looser timings and more voltage, but for sure it will not work for the timings below. Set to x10 for 1600Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick] << use Expert and set each channel one by one

Channel A + B + C
Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ......................7
tRCD ..................................8
tRP ...................................7
tRAS ..................................20
Below values all left on Auto For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
tRRD .......................................
tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
tWR ........................................
tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
tRFC .......................................
tRTP .......................................
tFAW ......................................
Command Rate (CMD) ................ << Set 1T
##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ...................

Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled] << Enabled
CPU Vcore ............................... Auto (CPU-Z records as being 1.36V) << Do not use Auto when overclocking, set this manually. Set 1.36-1.4 and see what voltage you get at idle and load with CPU-z then you can try less or may need more.

QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ Auto << Set this for sure, normally 1.28-1.35 is good
CPU PLL 1.800v .......................Auto

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... Auto
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... Auto
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... Manual 1.1V << May need 1.20-1.24
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... Auto
ICH Core 1.1v ........................

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.64 (CPU-Z records as actually being 1.62V) << Set 1.66
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

[wazza300]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

id suggest updating the chipset drivers to the latest ones easytune will now display my current gpu/memory clocks which it didnt before also it might stop it crashing

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/28/2024082/Chipset_v9.1.1.1023.zip

there for any os so dont worry about installing

[HowardB]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

Hi Guys thx for the replies, will definately try some of the settings you recommended

LSD one thing I dont understand you said:

"You do realize you have your ram set to 1920Mhz right? Those timings are not going to work at all like that."

Cant say I understand why the manufacturers recommended settings are 7-8-7-20 2T (actually on auto system assigns IT) speed 2000MHz at 1.65V. So am I missing something

As set the memory passes extended memtests no problem and I have no wierd crashes or BSOD type events so I was under the impression the memory is rock solid for the 3.2GHz OC implemented with the settings used

Assuming the double boot is a feature not a problem then my main problem is trying to tweak the other settings to allow a higher overclock, without the machine refusing to boot and necessitating a CLR CMOS and startover. I know this is a standard right of passage with overclocking but honestly even if I try to tweak one thing it sometimes refises to boot

Thanks again

[HowardB]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

One other thing ...

In this post http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/200-...x58-ud5-36761/

I see lots of people with i7 920's using clock multipliers of x21 in my F9e BIOS it is impossible to go beyond 20?

[wazza300]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

yes because turbo will add a 1x to the 20x multiplier

[HowardB]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

aha didnt realise that, any idea of what LSD meant by his comments on the memory timings?

[wazza300]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

aha didnt realise that, any idea of what LSD meant by his comments on the memory timings?

im not sure unless he ment you wont get the most out of 2000mhz unless you overclock you cpu to match them like 4.2ghz

[HowardB]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

OK I will wait for LSD to comment I guess but thx anyway, what settings are you using for your 3.8GHz OC btw?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

Sorry about that, I think I was looking at another users memory link of 1600Mhz, instead of your 2000Mhz kit, when I advised you on that.

Sorry again! How's things going?

[HowardB]

Re: Overclocking Gigabyte EX58-UD5 with F9e BIOS

OK here is my latest OC to try to move above a 3.2MHz OC I currently have . Its based on advice Lsd gave me back on the 12th December

With the settings below the system Posts reliably I got the windows startup then BSOD, havent seen one of them for a long time. The BSOD was flashed up so fast before reboot I had no time to read what it said and I am not sure where to look for the log file that may contain the relevant information in Windows 7 or even whether it keeps them?

I suspect the issue may be with memory timings but I could be wrong so any advice welcome. I did try manually setting the advanced timings using Lsd's guidelines but it didnt improve the situation. The link to the OCZ Blade 2000MHz memory is given below:

OCZ Technology | Products | Memory | OCZ DDR3 PC3-16000 Blade Series Low Voltage Triple Channel

The BIOS settings I tried that failed are:


Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]

Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. x36 (7.2GHz)
Uncore Frequency .......................... 4000 MHz (Uncore Multiplier x 20)
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 200
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... Auto [100]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................Auto [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... Auto [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. Auto [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. Auto[0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ x10 (memory runs at a final frequency of 2000 MHz)
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]

Each Channel A + B + C set:

CAS Latency Time ......................7
tRCD ........................................8
tRP ..........................................7
tRAS ........................................20
Command Rate = Auto

CPU Vcore ............................. 1.356V
PCIE 1.500v ........................... Auto
QPI/Vtt .................................. 1.34
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... Auto
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... Manual 1.22V
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... Auto
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.66 DRAM

Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

Any help gratefully received

If anyone does reply to things like voltage settings can they please NOT say things like they "should be higher" as to me that tells me nothing unless you can recommend how much higher ie a value range I can safely try ;)

Thanks again

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