Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

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WOW I love the confidence bro - If only I had half of that i'd be a better man. Feel Hopeful already. Thanks for the time out checking my settings really appreciate it.

Ok so tweaked everything as you mentioned, and first of all It actually booted and gave the................update success! (which is nice). I wasnt too sure if you meant I could leave the main ram settings on auto or not so left them at 9-9-9-28-1 for now but here is the link for SPD data you asked for. http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6735/spdl.png. Will update any developments!!

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oh and I was greedy and went for 4.2GHZ using 21*200 with turbo left on!!! :-/)

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Just one more thing so you know here the voltages where you gave me option between a number - mostly I went slap bang for inbetween.
Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled]
CPU Vcore ...............................1.30000v << May need 1.28-1.42 #1.3315V#
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << 1.28-1.42 should be fine for 1600Mhz with the above timings. (Maybe try out 1.32-1.36 for now)#1.335V#
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... << Set 1.84


MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... << Set 1.2-1.24 #1.24#
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... << Set 1.20-1.24 #1.24#
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ << Set 1.14


DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.660
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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WOW I love the confidence bro - If only I had half of that i'd be a better man. Feel Hopeful already. Thanks for the time out checking my settings really appreciate it.

Ok so tweaked everything as you mentioned, and first of all It actually booted and gave the................update success! (which is nice). I wasnt too sure if you meant I could leave the main ram settings on auto or not so left them at 9-9-9-28-1 for now but here is the link for SPD data you asked for. http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6735/spdl.png. Will update any developments!!

Hey buddy, thanks! I am here to help, so no problem.

Ya I am a very confident user, I have a few X58 boards and I overclock myself all the time. I even do Dry Ice overclocking, so I know a bit more about things when it comes to overclocking than an average overclocker might. Of course all hardware is different, so any suggestions I make may not be spot on for your setup but should be close enough for you to tweak further and get going.

Well I suggest setting your own ram main timings, but you still did not provide me a link or Model # for your memory so not sure what I would suggest using for the timings. You likely do not need to use 999-28 though. Get me this info and I can better advise you on that

oh and I was greedy and went for 4.2GHZ using 21*200 with turbo left on!!! :-/)

Nothing greedy about that, this should be the norm for all 920 owners with good coolers. It's actually what my the setup I am using now is set to.

Just one more thing so you know here the voltages where you gave me option between a number - mostly I went slap bang for inbetween.
Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled]
CPU Vcore ...............................1.30000v << May need 1.28-1.42 #1.3315V#
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << 1.28-1.42 should be fine for 1600Mhz with the above timings. (Maybe try out 1.32-1.36 for now)#1.335V#
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... << Set 1.84


MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ...........................
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... << Set 1.2-1.24 #1.24#
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... << Set 1.20-1.24 #1.24#
ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ << Set 1.14


DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.660
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

Sounds good, how is the stability testing coming along? If you get BSOD's here is what the codes normally mean

BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage

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Hi thanks!
Well I popped the hood and wrote down the info on the sticker, guess what, you were right.

PVT36G1600LLK DDR3 1600 Mhz (8-8-8-24) 6 GB (3x2GB Kit) 1.65V

Shall I drop the timings to 8-8-8-24-1 like it says. :-)

Well so far so good, set it sleeping last night and woke it up. Keyboard and monitor sprung to life nicely and desktop just there. So in that respect looks LOADS better, just need to see if it stays like that if left longer. Also need to check powering from shutdown longer see if get cold boots. I am pretty confident now it's looking HEAPS better.

I also did a quick PRIME95 test for about 20 mins or so and it was fine. I'll do an hour over the weekend. I try not to get too caught up in all that because I'd never be doing a proper inetensive session on there for longer than an 2 hours etc. But will need to check for stability I guess.

Looking forward to finalizing the memory bit.
Hey also is there a book or web resource where I can learn a bit more for myself. I always wanted to be able to do this. Thanks

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Yeap, I would go ahead and start there or with 888-20! Later on if you want you can try out 788-20 or 777-20. And for sure 1T command rate, this is normal for X58, I use 1T at 2100+ speeds.

Sounds great, honestly I do not use sleep myself so I have never tested longer than 10 minutes or so for tests performed by user request. Not sure if things are fixed for long sleeps but not many users have complained about it at all since they corrected the BIOS issues. So I think it should work fine once you have proper stable settings.

You should go ahead and do 12-24 hours with prime95 once you think you are stable, 1 hours is definitely not enough. Of course I do mean once you think you are stable, a hour or so is fine for a quick test here and there to see if something is working while you are tweaking settings. Even faster way to do that is to use LinX or Intel Burn Test, but you MUST have a good cooler before you use those tools.

If you don't want to spend hours watching prime, just start it running while you are sleeping, then leave it all day if it is still going when you wake up. No need to watch it, and you can use your system while it is running as well.

Well not to much that I know of has been posted for X58, what you could do is google X58 overclock guide or X58 tweaking guide and see what you can find. I have not looked for anyone for a while, but I know 3-4 months ago there was only 1-2 guides posted. If you have trouble finding something let me know and I can see what I can dig up for you

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Hey Brilliant man - I'll drop those settings tonight and try a prime run during the night that should be enough. Without wanting to sound like a creep I must say it's been such a relief to stumble upon your skills. I have been struggling with this pretty much on and off since I got the system in JULY. And finally it looks like I can use it how I want to without worrying if its going to let me down or not. Before posting here I posted on the vendors website and all got was "try these memory settings9-9-9-28-2" that's it. Cant thank you enough pal!

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Sounds good, I'd go ahead with 888-24 for starters until you are on your PC and can sit and see on quick tests if lesser works, as it may need more QPI/Vtt for tighter timings and you wouldn't want to start it and go to sleep then wake up and see it only ran 45 minutes before failing.

No worries, you don't sound creepy! I know how you feel, as I personally feel like that towards some people as well sometimes. Sorry to hear you did not find us here sooner!

What site do you mean, Patriot's? Just wondering. Ya, I can and will help, and have no doubt I can get you going with ease and likely gain you some performance you have been missing as well as the much needed stability.

Good luck with your tweaking tonight, I am usually on each night for 6-8 hours and sometimes in the afternoon for a hour or two. So if you miss me being online sometime rest assured I will see your new post and get you a reply back soon as I can.

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Excellent! Oh one more thing which prime is best to test? blend, small ftt , large ftt etc. Thanks

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uh oh - 2.15 hours into prime - checked the PC - the Screen had gone...BROWN...not blue but BROWN...like grpahics chip was chumped or something. THe temps were getting high top core was flicking between 83/85. Im on air BTW (push pull prolimatech megahalem) shall I drop the clock to 3.8 seems like its pumping too hot?

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just tried 19 x 210 (blk) with turbo off! wouldnt even boot up. Went to the BROWN screen again before log in then blue rebooted and blue screened with FAULT IN NON PAGED AREA.

Gone back to 20 x 200 with turbo for the 4.2 and is in windows happy. Hmmmm

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here's the blue sreen with 19*210

Imageshack - dsc003581621463

looks like "0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi"

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Ok been tweaking more :-) As of now PRIME been running for nearly 4 hours.

I dropped multi to 19*2000 so 3800 now and also turned off TURBO as advised when not pimping to 4.2ghz etc. I moved CPU Core Voltage up 1 notch to 1.34*** and QPI up one notch.

Been reading a bit more on the forum and many claim taking out HPT lowers temps. Is it true. Im still flicking between 85/83 on the highest core - which also makes me think I can still do that 4.2 ghz because temp is no different. Cant wait to see what your thoughts are this latest. Thanks!

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Brown screen? HAHA sounds odd, got a pic of that? Ya 80/85C in prime is pretty hot!

You can use turbo, just keep in mind CPU multi will always be 21 if you do so you would need to adjust Bclk to keep CPU where you want it.

Do you mean HPET? If so I have never heard that myself, nor tested it, but I doubt that matters with temps AT ALL.

Do you want help with 19x210? If so let me have your settings that failed and I will advise back.

If not, let your current settings run and see how you get along, then if you need more help I can advise.

Just so you know, you can save BIOS Profiles so you dont have to remember or try to remember settings between your different overclocks. You can save 8 profiles, on the MAIN page of the BIOS F12 is save and F11 is load. Be sure when saving that you move down the list so you don't overwrite or rename one of your other BIOS profiles. You will see what I mean once you save 2-3

0x00000050 can also be memory voltages , QPI PLL, or IOH voltages. It is random what the cause of this is, but always memory related. Can sometimes be tricky to pinpoint too.

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sorry bro I meant hyper threading - actually I see that HPET in power management - what does it do?

I'm gonna leave this running for a few more hours if it lasts - reading lots of conflicting statements about length of prime tests ; some say 2 hours; "youre doing ok", others 24 is the best etc. I reckon 8 or 12 is enough, just dont want to get to 11 hours 59 mins for a BSOD lol. Have to start over.

Wouldn't mind thoughts on the 4.2 actually and the brown screen I wonder if it had something to do with teamviewer; its a remote desktop tool and I was logging on from downstairs to check the desktop and obviously it changes screen resolution etc. If the system was choking itself on prime it might has messed up the screen changing resolutions. Mebbe. Hmmm. I guess if funny coloured screens is unheard of would have to unique to what I was doing. If the system decided it was too hot (althought havent intel said it will even still run at 100) would it blue screen or just turn off?

Just learning now too when people refer to RAM Multi it means the 8-8-8 or 9-9-9 part etc so I dig that my rating is 8-8-8 so 2x multi = 16 or +1=17. When would some one need to add that +1 part?

QPI link for me is 36= Is that set in stone due to what hardware I have or does it need changing for anything?

I also see now that BLCK is equivalent to older FSB so whatever you times the Clock Ratio by you get the overall MHZ said of the PC , so currently testing 19*200 = 3800.

So the higher that is the more voltage needed to run at that speed. Both CPU and memory.