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    Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

    Hi, this is my first time OC'ing and I am having a bit of trouble. I have a Intel E6300 Pentium Dual-core (2.8ghz stock) and can not seem to get it past 3.1 ghz. I have my multiplier at 10.5, FSB at 295, and Vcore seems weird to me. When I increased the vcore from the stock to 1.36 I was still unable to increase the FSB from 295 (stably). Also CPU-Z says my vcore is in fact at 1.3... it was also lower than what it was suppose to be at stock vcore (sorry don't remember what it was exactly. My temperatures are about 38 C idle and around 60 C under load. I have seen people get 3.5ghz easily out of this cpu and when asking for help at Overclock.net I was referred to this website as one person thinks it may be the motherboard. Also, I have 450w PSU and XP 64-bit. Any help greatly appreciated
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  • #2
    Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

    Come on guys I could really use some help!

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    • #3
      Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

      Sorry we let you wait.
      Vcore has very little to do with FSB speed. MCH Core has, but I already see you don't have it in BIOS. Press Ctrl+F1 in the main BIOS screen, the screen should then flash, enter MIT and see if there are more options there then before.
      Limited OC motherboard/chpset as the other guy said, be prepared for disappointments.

      Fill your signature with your system specs, a link to your memory page or at least part number.
      Fill the folowing template with your settings (siggested, those to the left, and set)
      It's just a template, ignore the values in it, and replace them with your own. Post it bacj wraped with code tags (click the # icon in post editor and paste.)
      We'll see what can be done.
      Code:
      Motherboard: Model, Rev#:
Cpu: Model
Ram: Brand, Model/Part#, Link to your ram's specs
Power Supply Unit: Brand, Model#, Wattage

Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.

note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [##]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
CPU Frequency ---------------------: ####

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [Mhz]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [Auto]

C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 800
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Turbo] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRCD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRAS  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWTR  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRFC  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRTP  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking

Channel A
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.?????  ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value
CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking

MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

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      • #4
        Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

        Alright will do :P

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        • #5
          Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

          Code:
          Motherboard: Model, Rev#:
Cpu: Model
Ram: Brand, Model/Part#, Link to your ram's specs
Power Supply Unit: Brand, Model#, Wattage

Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.

note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [10.5]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.5] < ignore if not available
CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.09 (295x10.5)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [295]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100]

C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 800
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
tRCD  ------------------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
tRP --------------------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
tRAS  ------------------- 12 ---------- : [Auto]

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWTR  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRFC  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRTP  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking

Channel A
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.325  ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value
CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking

MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
[URL="http://forums.tweaktown.com/#"]Virtualization Technology[/URL] -------------- : [Enabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

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          • #6
            Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

            Also, some of those settings I couldn't see so I left them as they were...

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            • #7
              Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

              Just in case, I found a review of someone who OC'ed the same processor on the same motherboard to 3.6ghz...

              Customer Reviews OfGIGABYTE GA-G41M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

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              • #8
                Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

                Originally posted by Dspritzman View Post
                Also, some of those settings I couldn't see so I left them as they were...
                You should delete them so we know which you have and which not.
                Did you try Ctrl+F1?

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                • #9
                  Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

                  Yeah with Ctrl + F1 I have:

                  Code:
                   
Motherboard: Model, Rev#:
Cpu: Model
Ram: Brand, Model/Part#, Link to your ram's specs
[URL="http://forums.tweaktown.com/#"]Power Supply Unit[/URL]: Brand, Model#, Wattage

Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.

note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [10.5]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.5] < ignore if not available
CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.09 (295x10.5)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [295]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100]

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
tRCD  ------------------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
tRP --------------------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
tRAS  ------------------- 12 ---------- : [Auto]

Channel A
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.325  ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value
CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled] 
CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
[URL="http://forums.tweaktown.com/"]Virtualization Technology[/URL] -------------- : [Enabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual [URL="http://forums.tweaktown.com/#"]PC[/URL]
                  For the most part that's right I believe.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

                    Ctrl+F1 didn't make no change then, but I am sure I saw CPU Reference in the board manual.

                    When you overclock FSB and leave memory multiplier on auto the memory gets overclocked too, select the multiplier that gives the rated memory speed or lower.
                    Try 333FSB with x9 CPU Clock Ratio and 2.40B memory multiplier, then if it works try to increase CPU ration.
                    Set CPU Vcore/Termination to their default value, and raise VCore if needed. CPU Reference can be left auto.
                    Set PCI-E frequency to 100.
                    DRAM Voltage needs to be 2.0v for these timings, check BIOS HWMonitor to see what is it set for with auto.
                    Could you post a screen capture of MemSet main and SPD window (click spd) before you make changes?
                    Keep an eye on CPU temperatures with RealTem/CoreTemp.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

                      Ok, my memory multiplier only has the options to do 2.0A, 2.5A, and I think 3.0A or something around that so what should I set it at? When I set my FSB and CPU multiplier to those settings it still will not boot. It seems that no matter what the other settings so far are, the FSB does NOT want to go higher. Is there any way around this? I mean that just seems to be the problem to me... Also, I have the vcore set to 1.325, but it says it's only actually running at 1.29, is that suppose to do this? and does this mean I can raise it above 1.36 max so that it actually runs at 1.36? Thanks!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

                        Originally posted by Dspritzman View Post
                        Ok, my memory multiplier only has the options to do 2.0A, 2.5A, and I think 3.0A or something around that so what should I set it at?
                        The "A" multipliers are for 266FSB, manual says:
                        System Memory Multiplier (SPD)
                        Allows you to set the system memory multiplier. Options are dependent on CPU FSB and the
                        (G)MCH Frequency Latch settings. Auto sets memory multiplier according to memory SPD
                        data. (Default: Auto)
                        but the board does not have (G)MCH Latch settings, I don't know what to say.

                        Originally posted by Dspritzman
                        When I set my FSB and CPU multiplier to those settings it still will not boot. It seems that no matter what the other settings so far are, the FSB does NOT want to go higher. Is there any way around this? I mean that just seems to be the problem to me...
                        I realy don't know, it coul be the board or the processor.

                        Originally posted by Dspritzman
                        Also, I have the vcore set to 1.325, but it says it's only actually running at 1.29, is that suppose to do this? and does this mean I can raise it above 1.36 max so that it actually runs at 1.36? Thanks!
                        It's normal the actual vcore is below the value set, my board has some 0.04v vdrop.
                        As for setting vcore above specs, there should not be a problem to set it highr to actually run at max spec voltage, but it is up to you to decide, I can't tell you it is safe.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Gigabyte G41M-ES2L // OC help?

                          Well, thanks, but someone helped me on a different site. Apparently it was my ram, when I lowered the ram speed to the 2.0A option it let me increase my FSB more so now I have it running at 3.5ghz :) I would like to take it higher as I could most likely hit 4.0ghz safely, but I don't think I can w/o better ram :( Thanks again though for the effort I seriously appreciate it!

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