Memory Issues

[1downfall]

Re: Memory Issues

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What tweaking are you looking for, or do tou want to overclock?
Temperatures are a concern, what kind of CPU heatsink do you have, stock or aftermarket?

Stock.....ya know funny you mentioned that. I was playing in my bios and set the fan and temp alerts to on......immediately when i rebooted the alarms were going on.......not good huh?
What fan would you recommend for my set up. I bought Zalmans before on other boards and hate having to try an mod one to fit...I am not good at that. I need a good one that "just fits!".


Motherboard: Model:GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 Rev#: 1.1 Bios Version:2.4
Cpu: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core
Ram: Corsair Dominator 1066 PC 8500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145214
Power Supply Unit: Cool Max 600W

Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.

note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.
----> Replace "Auto" with manually set values.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <--- FAST is OK
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [9x]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.0ghz

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [333]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto

C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< 0

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard----no Disable option] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <--- Leave this Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRCD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRAS ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking

Channel A
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.22500 ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value

CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking

CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly

MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------ : [Auto]
ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)
DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Enabled] <--- se

[Chike]

Re: Memory Issues

Diffcult to tell which one "just fit" some fit and difficult to install, read some reviews see what is best for your needs and budget.
Monitor the temps with RealTemp/CoreTemp, that's what is used on the forum.
Should have got any alerts with stock heatsink and settings, maybe the heatsink isn't seated propely or the air flow in the case is insufficient.

[1downfall]

Re: Memory Issues

agreed on the heatsink.
Will download the recommended app when I get home and will post correct info in bios settings that I missed!

[artdrivers]

Re: Memory Issues

Will download the recommended app

Here is a temperature and voltage application that works well in Windows called HWmonitor. It will even give you the DDR voltage that seems to be elusive in other monitoring apps. Click on CPUID for the download site, it's actually HWmonitor------> CPUID

[1downfall]

Re: Memory Issues

ok. Think I got it now.....Here is the completed bios info:

Motherboard: Model:GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 Rev#: 1.1 Bios Version:2.4
Cpu: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core
Ram: Corsair Dominator 1066 PC 8500 Newegg.com - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5D - Desktop Memory
Power Supply Unit: Cool Max 600W

Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.

note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.
----> Replace "Auto" with manually set values.

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <--- FAST is OK
CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [9x]
Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.0ghz

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [333]
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto

C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< 0
MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< 0

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard----no Disable option] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <--- Leave this Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
tRCD ------------------- 7 ---------- : [Auto]
tRP --------------------- 7 ---------- : [Auto]
tRAS ------------------- 24 ---------- : [Auto]

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
tWTR ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
tWR --------------------- 8 ---------- : [Auto]
tRFC ------------------- 68 ---------- : [Auto]
tRTP ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking

Channel A
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
CPU
Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Vcore --------------- 1.22500 ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value

CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking

CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly

MCH/ICH
MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------ : [Auto]
ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
DRAM
DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)
DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Enabled] <--- se


and with CPUID...my core temp is 148F....that does seem hot.....
and 129F with side of case open.

[artdrivers]

Re: Memory Issues

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/latest-overclocking-programs-system-info-benchmarking-stability-tools-30530/

[Chike]

Re: Memory Issues

and with CPUID...my core temp is 148F....that does seem hot.....
and 129F with side of case open.

Yes high temps, that load (and which) or idle temps? Shouldn't been that much of a difference between open and closed case. What kind of case fans you have? What is system temp(TEMPIN0) for open/closd case? And what is the room temperature?

[1downfall]

Re: Memory Issues

Yes high temps, that load (and which) or idle temps? Shouldn't been that much of a difference between open and closed case. What kind of case fans you have? What is system temp(TEMPIN0) for open/closd case? And what is the room temperature?

well, again at work so going off memory....
Room is warm, say 74F.
I am running just one 4" rear case exhaust fan on high.
Temps were taken at idle.
Processor has stock fan.
Because this room is a renovation, I have not run the duct from the living room to this room yet.
I opened the case and exposed the inside about 3-4 inches. I also turned on a floor fan behind me to move some air....since I was getting warm as well!
My case is 2 years old I think......A Sonata.....The Antec Sonata case: a quiet wonder - Ars Technica. But mine is 2 years older.

[Chike]

Re: Memory Issues

I'd check the if the CPU heat sink is seated properly, maybe reapply TIM, even with open case the temps a bit high.
If you have open slots at the back of the case it might be the air does not flow through it. Adding a front intake may be a good idea, or getting a larger exhust and using the 4" for intake. Do you know the exhust fan air flow?
I get 114F core temp idle and about 152F full load, with a 86-90F room temp.
With stock voltage and heatsink I had about 144F at load at about 68F room temp if I remember correctly, but then I found out there was a sticker on the top of the CPU IHS when I replaced the HS.

[1downfall]

Re: Memory Issues

I am looking into a new fan/heatsink now. The 2 plastic screw locks I think are loose, therby creating air gap at the cpu.
Now I just need to decide on which fan and heatsink.
also,
Should I pm anyone regarding my bios settings or post my bios results elsewhere? I guess, as I am not sure, I would like to see if I can optimize my board/memory performance.

[Chike]

Re: Memory Issues

The push pins you mean?
Generally two of them that are across to each other needed to be pushed at the same time, same goes for screws, screawing each side of the cross graduately until both are tight enough, then the other 2.
The push pins can be pulled out, turn them counter clockwise 90 degrees to unlicked position then pull them up while holding the HS down. Worked for me once, broke two the second time, not the best design ever. To put them back turn them back clockwise to lock position then push them in.
You can just make a new thread for the tweaks.

[1downfall]

Re: Memory Issues

The push pins you mean?
Generally two of them that are across to each other needed to be pushed at the same time, same goes for screws, screawing each side of the cross graduately until both are tight enough, then the other 2.
The push pins can be pulled out, turn them counter clockwise 90 degrees to unlicked position then pull them up while holding the HS down. Worked for me once, broke two the second time, not the best design ever. To put them back turn them back clockwise to lock position then push them in.
You can just make a new thread for the tweaks.

Yes. I am pretty sure 2 of them are broken. Being that my temps are a bit high, would you recommend turning the pc off a night when not in use for 8-10 hours?