450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

[devoh]

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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P (Rev. 1.1) - F9
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MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
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Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Fast]
CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [7X]
x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
CPU Frequency ........................: 3.15GHz( 450x7)

********** Clock Chip Control ********

>>>>>  Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [450]
PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]

******** DRAM Performance Control ********

Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00D]
Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 900
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]

>>>>> Standard Timing Control
x CAS Latency Time................5...: [ 5]
x tRCD ...........................5...: [ 4]
x tRP.............................5...: [ 4]
x tRAS...........................18...: [12]

>>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
x tRRD............................3...: [ 3]
x tWTR............................3...: [ 3]
x tWR.............................6...: [ 6]
x tRFC...........................52...: [52]
x tRTP............................3...: [ 3]
x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [ 2]

>>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
x Static tRead Value.............11...: [ 9]
x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto

x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto

x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DDR Write Training..................: Auto

>>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066MHz]

x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto

x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto

>>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
x Static tRead Value.............11...: [ 9]
x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto

x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto

x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
x DDR Write Training..................: Auto

>>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066MHz]

x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto

x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto

****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******

Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
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>>> CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
CPU Vcore..............1.27500V.......: [1.2500V]
CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.200V]
CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.500V]
CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.760V]
>>> MCH/ICH
MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.260V]
MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.760V]
MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [0.910V]
ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [1.570V]
ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]
>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.080V]
DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]

******** Advanced BIOS Features ********
Hard Disk Boot Priority...............: [Press Enter]
First Boot Device.....................: [USB-HDD]
Second Boot Device....................: [Hard Disk]
Third Boot Device.....................: [CDROM]
Password Check........................: [Setup]
HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability.............: [Enabled]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support................:  Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
Delay For HDD (Secs)..................: [ 0]
Full Screen LOGO Show.................: [Disabled]
Init Display First....................: [PEG]

******** Integrated Peripherals ********
USB Keyboard Function.................: [Enabled]
USB Mouse Function....................: [Enabled]
USB Storage Function..................: [Disabled]

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Lsdmeasap in his review of the Crucial Ballistic PC6400 2x2G memory said he could get 450FSB with 4-4-4-12
and a tRD of 8. What am I doing wrong? I can only get stable with a 5-4-4-12 and a tRD of 9.

thanks

-devoh

[profJim]

Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

Even with identical hardware and bios setups, there will usually be minor variations.

Lsdme states:

2x2GB

444-12 tRD 8 with the 2x2GB also tested and is fine. I just cannot find my image of the HCI test. All settings were tested in Memtest86+ as well as said above. This was a initial test but I found them to be fine at 444-12 as well (Adjusted MCH Ref Voltages after this run, .76 % was too much, my motherboard/CPU needed .70 to run these 2x2GB at 900Mhz 444-12 tRD 8)

He was probably using the 2.00B System Memory Multiplier which should allow tRD = 8 at 450MHz.

A quick scan of both of bios templates shows some differences in the Reference Volt settings.

You might be able to achieve similar results by lowering your cpu speed to 440MHz, testing, and then increasing your cpu speed in small increments.

In the this post, you stated that you had problems when using the 2.00B multiplier.

[D-an-W]

Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

I can't get 44412 to even boot currently but 54412 is fine so I feel your pain.

Going to work some more on it tonight so I will keep you posted...

[profJim]

Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

FWIW, my P35-DS3L runs 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix (2.2 volt) memory with 4-4-4-10 primary settings at 875MHz memory speeds.

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E2140, 75% o/c = 2.8GHz
cpu clock = 350MHz
tRD = 5
3GB ram: 2x1GB PC2-6400 + 2x512MB PC2-6400 memory.

[kick]

Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

My own 6400 memory
epp 800 mhz 4-4-4-12 1.8-1.9v
will run 450mhz at those timings at 2.1v.(B multiplier)
It will go a little higher at 4-4-4-12 but not much.

Customer experiences with the memory (from newegg) vary from 880mhz-910mhz maximum at cas4.
It doesnt worry me too much tho because after 460 cpu ref the performance drop switching to cas 5 is outweighed by the increased memory speed.