EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

[TranceFat]

Hi everyone! I'm new here!

I've read through perhaps 30-40 pages worth of thread listings and couldn't find a real conclusive answer to the problem that I have.

I recently built a C2D E8400 machine running Vista Ultimate 32bit. I'm using a EP45-U3DP mobo along with G.Skill 2x2GB memory (more on the specifics, if necessary). PSU is a Corsair 650W.

My problem is not that it can't go into S3 sleep. The problem is that when I try to wake the computer, it stalls out. Sometimes I'm able to wait for the stall to be "over" (it seems to remember all the things I did such as opening windows, moving things around, but they pop up all at once like 5 minutes later or more). There were a few times where it would just become completely unresponsive, thereby forcing me to press the reset or power button. One of those times it "reset" but then said "Resuming Windows".

I'm on version F8 for my bios. And since this is a fresh build, NOTHING is overclocked right now. Pretty much everything is auto/default with the exception of the PCI Express speed set to 100. C1E and C2E are disabled. EIST is enabled, although I don't thing this is causing the problem.

This is the first time I've ever built a machine from the ground up. Everything actually booted up fine the first try! This is the ONLY issue I have right now... *fingers crossed*

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

UD3 models sleep issues have not fully been worked out in the BIOS. so S3 is hit or miss depending on your FSB and the BIOS you are using.

Since you are having issues at stock, then it sounds like you may not have your memory setup properly.

If you think you need some help please give me your specs and settings in the below template.

I do suggest you use the latest BIOS which is F9 now >>

http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList/BIOS/motherboard_bios_ga-ep45-ud3p_f9.exe

Please read here for info on flashing with Qflash as I do not suggest @BIOS and tips for loading optimized defaults after your flash >>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

CPU = Model #
Motherboard = Model, Revision #
BIOS Version =
Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]

[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore.  Auto is fine if not overclocking

CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

[b]DRAM[/b]
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[TranceFat]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

Here is a detailed description of my setup and settings:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Xigmatek HDT-S1284EE (Link)
Gigabyte EP45-U3DP, Rev 1.1, Bios F8
Corsair CMPSU-650TX (Link)
G.Skill Pi Black 2x2GB DDR2 800 (Link)
EVGA GeForce GTX260 896MB 192 Core (Link)
Seagate 640GB SATA 3.0Gbps (Link)
LG 22X GH22LS30 (Link)

MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
CPU Clock Ratio ......................: 9x 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio..................: +0.0
CPU Frequency ........................: 3.00Ghz (333x9)

Clock Chip Control 
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control................: [Disabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 333
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: 100
C.I.A.2 ..............................: [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive.......................: 800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 900mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).......: [Auto]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 800
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Auto]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time......................: 4 Auto
tRCD .................................: 4 Auto
tRP...................................: 4 Auto
tRAS..................................: 12 Auto

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD..................................: 3 Auto
tWTR..................................: 3 Auto
tWR...................................: 10 Auto
tRFC..................................: 52 Auto
tRTP..................................: 3 Auto
Command Rate (CMD) ...................: 0 Auto

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength .....................: Auto

Channel A
Static tRead Value....................: 7 Auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: 0 Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment ...............: 0 Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: 5 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: 8 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto

Channel B
Static tRead Value....................: 7 Auto
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: 0 Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment ...............: 0 Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: 5 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: 8 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto

Motherboard Voltage Control

CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
CPU Vcore.............................: 1.25000V Auto
CPU Termination.......................: 1.200V Auto
CPU PLL...............................: 1.500V Auto
CPU Reference.........................: 0.760V Auto 
CPU Reference2........................: ??? => I dont see this in my bios 

MCH/ICH
MCH Core..............................: 1.100V Auto
MCH Reference.........................: 0.760V Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref..........................: 0.900V Auto
ICH I/0...............................: 1.500V Auto
ICH Core..............................: 1.100V Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage..........................: 1.800V Auto
DRAM Termination......................: 0.900V Auto
Channel A Reference...................: 0.900V Auto
Channel B Reference...................: 0.900V Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.....................: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology.............: [Enabled]

Integrated Peripherals
USB Storage Function..................: [Enabled]

Random tidbit: When I disable XMP, it causes the Standard Timing Control to go to 5-5-5-15, thus I changed it back to Auto. Also, I notice that when it goes into S3 sleep, my computer is dead quiet (can't even hear the fans) but the power LED is not on. Isn't it supposed to act as it's breathing (you know, "on-off-on-off")?

Thank you in advance for helping out!

[TranceFat]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

Lsdmeasap, or anyone else: Any ideas? How do my BIOS settings look?

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

Sorry for the late reply, I'm playing catch up still!

No S3 sleep is DEAD Quiet, basically OFF. All you should see is the LED's on the board, those and the ram is ALL that has power going thru it.

Like I said the S3 issues may not be fully worked out for your board yet, but you should be ok at stock (Maybe not though so don't hold me to that as I do not have one of these boards to test )

May want to try F9 for sure though as if it is fixed it would be in that BIOS >>
GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EP45-UD3P (rev. 1.0)

How to use Qflash >>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

Can you post me an image of this program running so I can see what all those AUTO Values are actually giving you in the BIOS memory section >>
Tweakers.fr ~ Memset

Here would be optimal settings for your hardware, with no overclock but with C1E and EIST Disabled (Speedstep OFF = CPU Runs at full speed)

MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto or Fast]
CPU Clock Ratio ......................: 9x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio..................: +0.0
CPU Frequency ........................: 3.00Ghz (333x9)

Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control................: [Disabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 333
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: 100
C.I.A.2 ..............................: [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive.......................: 800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 900mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps

DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo] << STANDARD
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).......: [Auto] << Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [Auto] << 2.40B = 800
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 800
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Auto] << Manual

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time......................: 4
tRCD .................................: 4
tRP...................................: 4
tRAS..................................: 12

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD..................................: 3
tWTR..................................: 3-5
tWR...................................: 4-6
tRFC..................................: 52-62
tRTP..................................: 3-5
Command Rate (CMD) ...................: 2
Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength .....................: 800/1066 (1066 may be best but you will need to set all your settings first before testing both to compare)

Channel A
Static tRead Value....................: 6/7-10 Depending on Voltages and Strap in use
tRD Phase0 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: 0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ...............: 0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: 5 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: 8 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto

Channel B
Static tRead Value....................: 6/7-10 Depending on Voltages and Strap in use
tRD Phase0 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: 0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ...............: 0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment................: 0 Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: 6 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: 5 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: 8 Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto

Motherboard Voltage Control

CPU
Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
CPU Vcore.............................: 1.25000V Auto is fine for no overclock, otherwise manually set 1.225-1.45+
CPU Termination.......................: 1.200V Auto << Do not leave in auto if you overclock later (1.225-1.36)
CPU PLL...............................: 1.500V Auto << Do not leave in Auto if you overclock later (1.5-1.6)
CPU Reference.........................: 0.760V Auto


MCH/ICH
MCH Core..............................: 1.100V Auto << Set 1.20-1.24
MCH Reference.........................: 0.760V Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref..........................: 0.900V Auto
ICH I/0...............................: 1.500V Auto << Set 1.55
ICH Core..............................: 1.100V Auto << Set 1.14

DRAM
DRAM Voltage..........................: 1.800V Auto << Set 1.9-1.94
DRAM Termination......................: 0.900V Auto
Channel A Reference...................: 0.900V Auto
Channel B Reference...................: 0.900V Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2)...........: [Enabled] << Disable
CPU EIST Function.....................: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology.............: [Enabled]

Integrated Peripherals
USB Storage Function..................: [Enabled][/code]

[TranceFat]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

I will definitely try out some of these suggested settings myself soon! As well as upgrade the BIOS... Thanks again!

[TranceFat]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

I noticed that for the ICH I/O and ICH Core voltages, I was not able to set the values to your suggestions. For ICH I/O, it appears that closest voltage I can select is 1.57V. For ICH Core, it only allows me to select in increments of 0.1V. Thus it goes from 1.1, 1.2, etc.

Any ideas why I don't have as granular control on these values?

[tonus]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

On my EP45-UD3R rev 1.1 i have the same problems with S3.I'm with F9 bios. May be only rev 1.1 makes problems wit S3.

[TranceFat]

Re: EP45-U3DP Sleep Problem

Has anyone figured out a good solution to this problem? This problem along with the no audio from rear speakers when 4.1, 5.1, or 7.1 is selected are huge issues for me (even though the workaround is to set the rear speakers as "side speakers", this is still something I'd like to see fixed -- I'm sure many people would like to see this fixed too).