Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

[fcastro]

Hi everyone, I am running 8gbs of OCZ memory on my board. I had been having some issues that prompted me to test my memory for problems. So I ran memtest86+ and about 8 hours in it came back with errors (screens attached). I have 4 2gb chips in there all the same brand and type purchased individually.

I noticed that by default gigabyte in the bios has 3 options for DRAM configuration standard, turbo and something else. By default turbo is enabled and I was wondering if this could possibly cause Memtest86+ to fail.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Yes, I do advise you set that to standard. If you still have issues after doing that, please provide us with your full settings and we can advise.

Many things often need to be adjusted from the defaults/auto to run 4-8GB >>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

CPU = Model #
Motherboard = Model, Revision #
BIOS Version =
Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]

[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore.  Auto is fine if not overclocking

CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

[b]DRAM[/b]
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

thanks Lsdmeasap. I am just put the memory all back in and set the setting to standard. Odd that gigabyte sets it to turbo by default. Another day wasted I'll have to let this run at 10 hours.

I'll post when its done.

[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

OK ran testing all of today 13 hours and got a failure with the standard setting in bios as well.

I have now tested 2 pieces at a time and not gotten failures when 2 chips are in. I have tested just about every combination but when I test 2 chips at a time I don't get the failure. What should I do?

[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Here are my bios settings:

PMB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio .......................: 7X
Fine CPU Clock Ratio...................: +.05
CPU Frequency .........................: 2.50GHZ (333X7.5)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control...............: [DISABLED]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: AUTO
C.I.A.2 .............................: [Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive.......................: 700mV
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 700mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance..................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)......: [Auto]
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ............: [Auto]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ..............: [Auto]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................: 5
tRCD ...................................: 5
tRP'....................................: 5
tRAS....................................: 15


Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...................................: 4
tWTR...................................: 4
tWR....................................: 6
tRFC...................................: 72
tRTP...................................: 4
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................

Channel A
Static tRead Value.....................:8 Auto
tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................:0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................:0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................:0 Auto

Trd2rd(Different Rank).................:8 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank).................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank).................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................:9 Auto

Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
DDR Write Training.....................:Auto

Channel B
Static tRead Value.....................:8 Auto
tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................:0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................:0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................:0 Auto

Trd2rd(Different Rank).................:8 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank).................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank).................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................:9 Auto

Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
DDR Write Training.....................:Auto


Motherboard Voltage Control

CPU
CPU Vcore.............1.16250V.........:Auto
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*..........:Auto
CPU PLL...............1.500V*..........:Auto
CPU Referen...........0.760V*..........:Auto


MCH/ICH
MCH Core..............1.100V...............:Auto
MCH Reference.........0.760V...............;Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref..........0.900V...............:Auto
ICH I/O...............1.500V...............:Auto
ICH Core..............1.100V...............:Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage............1.800V............:Auto
DRAM Termination........0.900V............:Auto
Channel A Reference.....0.900V............:Auto
Channel B Reference.....0.900V............:Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

[lightfusion]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Come on, you can't possibly run this RAM at 1.8v hoping for 1066MHz error free.

Go to the OCZ website and look up the type of RAM you have and the voltage required to run the RAM at the spec'ed timing and speed.

[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

HI lightfusion, wow no kidding? I usually just build rigs and run things at stock. Didn't think having 8gigs would mean tweaking the stock memory settings.

On newegg (ocz site isn't coming up now) it says the ram runs at 2.1 volts but why would the gigabyte bios only be giving 1.8 in auto mode?

[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Just jacked up the voltage to 2.1 in the bios with all 8gigs installed and running memtest86+ again. I'll be back to report, thanks again everyone :)

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Yes for sure you would need to set 2.0-2.15 or so for your ram if it is rated to 2.1. Auto in the BIOS is setup for a Standard 1.8V (JEDEC)

I do see issues above, and think you will continue to have them until you start over. Please load optimized defaults, you are starting from Fail Safe now and that is a issue because many hidden settings, and visible ones, will not be properly set per your hardware.

If you are using RAID please see here for tips on loading optimized w/ RAID >>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

If you are not, please load optimized defaults and then set ONLY your ram voltage and MCH Voltage then save/apply/reboot (F10)

This is what I would suggest for you for the above setup, do not use these settings until you have loaded optimized and save/rebooted (Except for the Ram and MCH Voltage)

Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio .......................: 7X
Fine CPU Clock Ratio...................: +.05
CPU Frequency .........................: 2.50GHZ (333X7.5)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control...............: [DISABLED]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
C.I.A.2 .............................: [Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive.......................: 800mV
PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 900mV
CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance..................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)......: [Auto] << Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ............: [Auto] << 2.40B = 1066mhz (2.00B for 800Mhz if you have issues)

Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ..............: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................: 5
tRCD ...................................: 5
tRP'....................................: 5
tRAS....................................: 15/18

Set all below to the highest suggested, then later you can lower testing as you go

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...................................: 3-5
tWTR...................................: 4-8
tWR....................................: 6-10
tRFC...................................: 78-92
tRTP...................................: 4-6
Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................1066

Channel A
Static tRead Value.....................:7-10
tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................:0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................:0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................:0 Auto

Trd2rd(Different Rank).................:7-10
Twr2wr(Different Rank).................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank).................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................:9 Auto

Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
DDR Write Training.....................:Auto

Channel B
Static tRead Value.....................:8 Auto
tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................:0 Auto
tRD Phase1 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................:0 Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................:0 Auto

Trd2rd(Different Rank).................:8 Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank).................:8 Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank).................:7 Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).................:9 Auto

Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
DDR Write Training.....................:Auto


Motherboard Voltage Control

CPU
CPU Vcore.............1.16250V.........:Auto
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*..........:1.225-1.25
CPU PLL...............1.500V*..........:Auto
CPU Referen...........0.760V*..........:Auto


MCH/ICH
MCH Core..............1.100V...............:1.2-1.35 (8GB may need 1.24-1.34)
MCH Reference.........0.760V...............;Auto
MCH/DRAM Ref..........0.900V...............:Auto
ICH I/O...............1.500V...............:1.55
ICH Core..............1.100V...............:1.14-1.2

DRAM
DRAM Voltage............1.800V............:2.1-2.15
DRAM Termination........0.900V............:Auto
Channel A Reference.....0.900V............:Auto
Channel B Reference.....0.900V............:Auto

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Lsdmeasap, didn't see this post till this morning. MemTest is at 7 hours yet. Usually fails around 8 and something hours.

I made the change to the voltage: 2.1 and didn't change the MCH/ICH settings yet as just saw them. Should I stop the testing and do the load fail safe and the rest of the settings? Or is it safe to just finish up the tests and then make your suggested changes?

[Overdraught]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

fcastro, et al - I have a very similar board (UD3R) with 4gb (2x2) of the same type of ram. With all settings at default / auto the bios automatically detects the ram and sets the dram voltage to 2.096v. That's according to the PC Health Status page, though the MIT page still shows 1.8v under the "normal" heading. It also automatically sets the timings.

I've run a number of different stress tests, some with the cpu overclocked, and I've had no stability problems. That said, try running memtest86+ with just 4gigs and see if you still get errors.

OverDraught

GA-EP45-UD3R w/ bios f8
E8400 w/ stock cooling
2x2gb OCZ PC2-8500
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80gb on Intel controller (incl. the system partition)
2x WD SE16 640gb raid-1 on jMicron controller
XP x64
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[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Hey all, well after adjusting the voltage to the correct 2.1v as my ram is rated and making the other changes ls recommended to mch etc I passed memtest86+ after 12 hours. So now I can continue with the OCing process.

Thanks to all for there help :)

[fcastro]

Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P MemTest86+ Fails Memory After 8 Hours

Hey guys I went into EasyTuner6 after making all the changes and I checked what it was reporting for each memory slot. Is what I am seeing normal with slot 4? Tras is 124 while the others are all 15.

Specs don't look correctly at all. My memory is SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) yet easytuner is seeing it at PC2-6400??