E8400 on EP43-UD3L

[katania]

Long time lurker here, seeking a little bit of help from what appears to be a very knowledgable community.

Last week I made the jump from an old AMD S939 machine to a fresh intel build. The last 8 years or so have been all AMD for me so I'm pretty bad at this intel overclocking business.

First of all the board, I don't see a whole lot about this board in this forum. I picked it up because the 680i I had wouldn't work, and I needed something immediately that could be bought local. I'm not sure if this board is even capable of what I want it to do.

Currently I've brought the up to 3.7Ghz stable. 411x9, using the 2D strap bringing memory up to 822. Timings are 5-5-5-15. The ram is Gskill F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ. 2x2GB sticks. Mem voltage = 1.9, from what I've read this memory won't mind running 2.1 but there is nothing to be gained by it. I have no advanced timings set for the memory, which I imagine is the problem. You can pretty much assume anything I've not mentioned is on Auto.

I've got my Vcore at 1.325 in Bios, showing 1.33 in Everest. (This does not make sense at all, isn't it supposed to droop?). In the bios PC health it shows droop.

The CPU is a Stepping E0 if that matters. Bios is F1, doesn't look like the updates have anything important except maybe something about ITE8718 KX.

Here is some more data I've got out of CPUid about the memory:

General
Memory type        DDR2
Module format        Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID)    G.Skill (7F7F7F7FCD000000)
Size            2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth        PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number        F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ

Attributes
Number of banks        2
Data width        64 bits
Correction        None
Nominal Voltage        1.80 Volts
EPP            yes (1 profiles)
XMP            no

Timings table
Frequency (MHz)        266    400    
CAS#            4.0    5.0    
RAS# to CAS# delay    4    5    
RAS# Precharge        4    5    
TRAS            10    15    
TRC            16    24    

EPP profile 1 (full)
Voltage level        2.100 Volts
Address Command Rate    2T
Cycle time        2.000 ns (500.0 MHz)
tCL            5.0 clocks
tRCD            5 clocks (10.00 ns)
tRP            5 clocks (10.00 ns)
tRAS            15 clocks (30.00 ns)
tRC            45 clocks (90.00 ns)
tWR            12 clocks (24.00 ns)

And voltages in CPUid:

Hardware monitor
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ITE IT87 hardware monitor

Voltage sensor 0    1.33 Volts [0x53] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage sensor 1    1.90 Volts [0x77] (VIN1)
Voltage sensor 2    3.34 Volts [0xD1] (+3.3V)
Voltage sensor 3    5.00 Volts [0xBA] (+5V)
Voltage sensor 4    2.24 Volts [0x23] (+12V)
Voltage sensor 7    5.11 Volts [0xBE] (+5V VCCH)
Voltage sensor 8    3.14 Volts [0xC4] (VBAT)
Temperature sensor 0    40�C (103�F) [0x28] (TMPIN0)
Temperature sensor 1    34�C (93�F) [0x22] (TMPIN1)
Fan sensor 0        2491 RPM [0x10F] (FANIN0)

Not sure what else I can add. The Chip runs cool at this 3.7 setting. If it matters, it has a Zalman 9700 copper sitting on it with the included Zalman thermal compound. I usually run this machine at 3.6 (400x9) and idle temps sit around 32 degrees. The above CPUID pastes are actually under a slight load (WoW running). I've never seen the chip get hotter than 46 degrees even under ortho's blend.

Please let me know if any more information is needed to acquire advice, I'd like to get this thing going at 4Ghz stable.


Cheers

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: E8400 on EP43-UD3L

Sorry for the late reply here!!

I would of course update your BIOS to the latest, they only add Major changes to the change logs so you may be missing or looking over other small but important changes that are not noted.

P43 is pretty FSB Limited (415-425) so you are at the upper limit of things as far as the FSB is concerned. You need a P45 or P35 to reach 4Ghz with that CPU

As for your advanced ram timings, you should for sure see them. I would say update your BIOS first to be sure that is not the issue. Please see here for proper flashing procedure, and do not use @BIOS >>>

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios-flashing-how-qflash-guide-27576/

Then if you are still not seeing them you may need to use the Hot key, but I do not think you should need to. I checked and the options are in Both BIOS versions I looked at (F1 and F3) see image >>



So if you do not find them then you will have to try the hot key. On the MAIN page of the BIOS hit Control + F1 and the screen will flash, then go into the MIT Section and you will find your advanced memory options

Your voltage concern with vcore is likely also corrected in a BIOS update, yes it should be less then what you set in the BIOS at idle and less then that at load. But that amount varies from Voltage setting to voltage setting, and of course less is not always desired anyway

If you do need help with your settings let me know, and give me the ones you are using that fail and I will try to help >>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]

[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore.  Auto is fine if not overclocking

CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

[b]DRAM[/b]
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[katania]

Re: E8400 on EP43-UD3L

Hey, no rush LSD.

I think my wording was poor and threw you off. I do have the advanced timings section of the BIOS, that isn't missing. I've got it up to 3.8 now which I think is as good as it's gonna get.

However, I'm at work right now, so I will add another reply later with the requested information.