EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

[samops03]

Hello, i just purchased the EP45-DS3L and i have a Pentium D 940 Cpu. I would like to use this ram (Kingston KTD-DM8400A) These are 2x1GB sticks and all i know about them is that they are 1.8V. I could not find the timings online.

My system will post once and then cycle power on and off and is not stable at all. I have tried changing settings but it will not work properly. I have updated the Bios to F10.

Would someone please give me the list of settings i need to use because im tired of resetting the bios over and over again. I would like to get this working since RMA is a pain.

Thanks in advance,
Sam

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

I found your ram, just incase you wanted the link, but yeah no real info other then what you know already. They are 533Mhz/PC24200 Sticks though if you did not know that >>>
Kingston Technology Company - Kingston Memory Search - Search Results for: KTD-DM8400A/1G

PROVANTAGE: Kingston Technology KTD-DM8400A/1G 1GB Memory for Dell A0375066/A0375074/A0498618/A0498620

Newegg.com - Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) System Specific Memory - System Specific Memory

Can you get into windows at all, if so please post me a screenshot of CPU-z SPD Tab so we can have a look to see if it has programmed timings or not.

As for now, you should put performance enhance in the BIOS on standard. The rest will have to wait until I see that info. Please do also fill this in with what you are using now then I will advise back >>>>

This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]
Voltage Type.………... Manual
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

[b]DRAM[/b]
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[samops03]

Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

Ran CPUZ on one of the sticks in a diff machine. Here are the results,



Also, it shows my CPU as 2.4Ghz, when it should be 3.2, i belive the multiplier is wrong or something? Why doesnt this board recognize this cpu correctly?

Here are the specs of the cpu, could you incorporate those into the config as well?

Pentium D 940
Clock: 3.2 GHz (Dual Core)
L1: 16KB (Per Core)
L2: 2048KB (Per Core)
Multipiler: 16x
Package: 775 Pinless
Socket: 775
organic mPGA
Core: 65nm
Vcore: 1.25-1.4V

Thanks a lot,
Sam

[samops03]

Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

Also, here is a MEMSET Screenshot:

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

Well the board should recognize your CPU Correctly if you HAVE loaded optimized defaults and save/apply/rebooted. Did you do that yet? If not, please do.

If you have, then your CPU is likely clocking down due to Intel SpeedStep. Not sure if that is in older CPU's like that, but sounds like it may be. You would need to disable EIST and C1E in the advanced BIOS page to turn that off

OK, here is what you should use as a optimal range for that setup >>>>

Do keep in mind this board was not designed to run such slow ram or CPU's so you may always have issues until you get a newer CPU at least and some faster ram.. When the board came out it strictly did not support these CPU's and were only added later By BIOS update due to consumer issues I believe. So that likely still means the hardware was not designed for the CPU and they are only Trying to get it to work with the older CPU's as much as they can. There is MANY Cheap 45Nm CPU's and even 65Nm ones as well, starting at about $50

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 16
CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.20


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 200Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66C
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 533
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................5
tRCD .........................................4
tRP'...........................................4
tRAS..........................................12

Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................2-3
tWTR..........................................2-3
tWR............................................4-5
tRFC...........................................28-32
tRTP...........................................2-3
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ Auto <<< You may have best luck with setting 667 here, I find one above ram speed works best and since 533 is not selectable here then I would for sure try this first

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:6-8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:6-8
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................: Auto if not overclocking, if overclocking manually find and set your own stable voltages

CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Auto if not overclocking. Please set to stock if overclocking to start with, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclocking depending on Vcore and CPU (1.2-1.5)

CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Auto if not overclocking. Please set to stock if overclocking, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclocking 1.5-1.6

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << Auto
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.55
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.14-1.2

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.85
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB