GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

[uberpoo]

HI

Im quite new to GIGABYTE boards. I bought one cause my buddy is running one and said they were great boards. Well, ive had nothing but issues with mine. Ihave a EP45-UD3R board with a Q9450. I have been trying to run G.Skill DDR-1066 2.0-2.1v 6-6-6-18 2GBx4 (F2-8500CL6-4GBNQ). Im able to run 4 gigs and thats it. If i pop in all 8 gigs, i get a BSOD while loading up Windows. Now, i have tried all stick one at a time, all good. I have tried 4 gigs using random sticks, all good. Why is this board not allowing me to run all 8? Now, my BIOS settings are pretty much default. Is there a setting im missing?? Or is it that the board dosnt like this brand of ram? Any help would be great.

[SpeedEuphoria]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Need more MCH core for 8GB, prob have to tweak some memory settings alos like make sure the PL(static tRead) is 9 or 10 for starters. Also make sure you have the Dram voltage at the high end of the specs

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Im not sure how high to go on the MCH so i went to 1.24, 1.2 gave me A BSOD. As for the static tread, im at 10 (both A&B) and voltage on the memory is @ 2.1. Im loaded up and on my desktop with 8 gigs. Anything else i should look at? Thanxs for the reply man, you have given me new hope!!

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Please post your settings you are using so we can better advise. As for your MCH with 8GB depending on the strap you are using and multi you may need more or less voltage. A good starting range for 8Gb would be 1.25-1.35 but it does depend on straps and multi's as well. And put performance enhance on standard, make sure trfc is set to 72-82 for now as well, trtp 4-7 >>>


This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

[b][u]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/u][/b]
Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................: 


[b][u]Clock Chip Control [/u][/b]
[b][u]Standard Clock Control[/u][/b]
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
[B]PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100[/B]

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


[b][u]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/u][/b]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 


[b][u]DRAM Performance Control[/u][/b][u][/u]
[B]Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD][/B]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

[b]Standard Timing Control[/b]
CAS Latency Time........................
tRCD .........................................
tRP'...........................................
tRAS..........................................

[b][u]Advanced Timing Control[/u][/b]
tRRD...........................................
tWTR..........................................
tWR............................................
tRFC...........................................
tRTP...........................................
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

[u][b]Driving Strength Profiles[/b][/u][b][/b]
Driving Strength ............................

[b]Channel A[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b]Channel B[/b]
Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
 tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
 tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
 tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps

[b][U]Motherboard Voltage Control[/U][/b][U][/U]
Voltage Type.………... Manual
[b]CPU[/b]
CPU Vcore….……….........................:
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 

[b]MCH/ICH[/b]
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

[b]DRAM[/b]
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

[b][U]Advanced Settings[/U][/b][U][/U]
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

[b][U]Integrated Peripherals[/U][/b][U][/U]
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............:Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:8x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................:2.66 (333x8)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:333Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<<
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< <-------- didnt mess with these
CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............:Auto
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................6
tRCD .........................................6
tRP'...........................................6
tRAS..........................................18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................Aut o
tWTR..........................................Auto
tWR............................................Aut o
tRFC...........................................72
tRTP...........................................5
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:mine are at 10 - 6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:mine are at 10 - 6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.25000v (auto)
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much <-------- is 1.500v stock??

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:1.28
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:2.100v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
Robust Graphics Booster ...............:Auto
CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:8x
Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
CPU Frequency ...........................:2.66 (333x8)


Clock Chip Control
Standard Clock Control
CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:333Mhz
PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< This should be 800
PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< <-------- didnt mess with these << This should be 900

CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< << 50-250 could help with 8GB


DRAM Performance Control
Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
(G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
System Memory Multiplier ..............:3.20B
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:1066
DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

Standard Timing Control
CAS Latency Time........................6
tRCD .........................................6
tRP'...........................................6
tRAS..........................................18

Advanced Timing Control
tRRD...........................................4-5
tWTR..........................................8-12
tWR............................................10-14
tRFC...........................................72-85
tRTP...........................................5-7
Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

Driving Strength Profiles
Driving Strength ............................ set 1066

Channel A
Static tRead Value.........................:mine are at 10 << 10 should be good enough, but you may want to try 12 on both to be sure

tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Channel B
Static tRead Value.........................:See above
tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

Motherboard Voltage Control
Voltage Type.………... Manual
CPU
CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.25000v (auto)
CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Set 1.24 and see if that helps, as this controls the Northbridge MCH Ref voltage

CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much <-------- is 1.500v stock?? Yes, 1.5 is stock, at stock clocks you can use 1.35-1.5

CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

MCH/ICH
MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:1.28 << Try 1.25-1.35, and also try 1.1-1.15
MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.6
ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<<1.14-1.2

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:2.0-2.100v
DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

Advanced Settings
Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

Integrated Peripherals
Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Well, i want to think you for your help! Seems like i have all the settings down, and so far so good. Im hoping to get some testing done today with a few games and see if i have any issues. Thanxs again for the help!

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Well, maybe i spoke to soon. After playing a game for about 20-25 mins, all of the sudden my PC will shutdown and restart.

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 50
BCP1: FFFFFA607E9AA200
BCP2: 0000000000000000
BCP3: FFFFF80001EE4285
BCP4: 0000000000000005
OS Version: 6_0_6001
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini010209-04.dmp
C:\Users\walksonpoo\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-26863-0.sysdata.xml
C:\Users\walksonpoo\AppData\Local\Temp\WERB192.tmp .version.txt

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Even after going back to defaults, going back to 4 gigs, i am crashing everytime im in a game.

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 1e
BCP1: FFFFFFFFC000001D
BCP2: FFFFF80001C90B86
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: FFFFF80001C90B86
OS Version: 6_0_6001
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini010209-05.dmp
C:\Users\walksonpoo\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-27362-0.sysdata.xml
C:\Users\walksonpoo\AppData\Local\Temp\WERB940.tmp .version.txt

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[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

I need to see the error on the Blue screen, not those errors. If you want to see what is on the BSOD you can disable auto restart in control panel, system, advanced system settings, advanced options tab and then startup and recovery and uncheck Automatically restart in the system failure box. Then your PC will stop at the BSOD screen and you can write down the code, should look like this >>> 0x0000008e or similar

More then likely it is either a driver that is not working right with your game, or your GFX Card is overheating... Or maybe you have some timings too tight or not enough voltages. Not sure since you did not post what exact settings you are using now.

Do you think your GFX card overheats? You can check it GPU Caps Viewer and run the Fur Render test (Bottom left corner of app) and watch the temps in the main box or see if it causes a crash >>>>

GPU Caps Viewer: Graphics Card Information Utility, GPU Temperature, OpenGL Extensions and API Support | oZone3D.Net

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Well im sure its not the GXF card. I have a 9800 GXT with a Accelero XTREME 9800 cooler. Idle its temps are 35 and load its 42-45. Im sure thats not overheating. I did find that the audio drivers i had installed were 2.0 and the newest are 2.13, ive installed the new drivers havent had the time to play around with them yet. I have setup my PC to not reset on BSOD, so i will come back with info once, or if it happens again. Thanxs again for your time n help.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

Are you sure the ram or VRM's are not overheating? Adding a aftermarket cooler may cause that as some do not cover the ram properly and the VRM's

Good luck, and hope your driver update helped

[uberpoo]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

No, im quite sure. I never had issues running 8 gigs on my 790i, or with the video card. I dont crash or have issue with any random pair of 4 gigs. Played Crysis Wars and GTAIV for hours with out problem. I have multiple issues if i try to use 8 gigs and use the tweaks you gave me. I did capture one of the BSODS...


0x00000019 (0x000000001 FFFFF88008F34000 0x0000000000000001 0x0000000000000000)

I hope that was the info you needed.

[Lsdmeasap]

Re: GIGABYTE EP45-UD3R memory issue...

I am talking about Graphic card ram, not system ram. Cards have three things that can overheat and not always all of them have a sensor (GPU, VGA RAM, VRM Chips)

That error is a BAD Pool Header error, can you please run the latest memtest86+ overnight while you sleep >>>
Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool